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)so habar jecel is not 1 clan, but a union of 4 brothers aka 4 sub-clans. woow this is something new i learnt. So basically, habar jecel clan is equivalant to Sade, Kablalax, Leelkase, Awrtable that are in one bannersaraxnow, just to clear up the confusion of HJ it is like this:
Sheikh Isaaq married two women who each gave birth to 4 sons: Magaado gave birth to Abdiraxman (Awal), Ismaciil (Garxajis) Maxamed (Arab) & Ayuub; Xabusho gave birth to Muuse, Ibrahim (Sanbuur), Maxamed (Cibraan) & Axmed (Tol Jecle)
When magaado died Odayga Sh. Isaaq went to his other family and Axmed went with his father to his other brothers (from other bah) that's why he was called tol jecle, whilst his other three brothers (Muuse, Maxamed Cibraan and Ibrahim Sanbuur) chose to stay with their mother hence they were called together Habar Jeclo.
All three of them are called Habar jeclo but because 95% of HJ is from Muuse the name is mostly used for Muuse Sh. Isaaq.
So when someone says HJ they usually mean Muuse Sh. Isaaq.
but i thought habar habshi had 4 sons? how come ur saying 3 now. Also i thought habar jecel was a direct son of isaaq.The point is you are too dumb to understand that Cimraan, Sanbuur and Muse are 3 direct sons of Shaykh Isxaaq and together they form a subclan of Isaaq called Habar Jeclo. How f-king hard is that to understand?
I dunno maybe but I have only heard them being called ugaadh abokorI've heard of reer liibaan (My grandfathers fourth wife no less
Ugaadh Abokor? By any chance are they also known as Ugaadhyahan(because I've heard this)
do you read with ur futo:? 3 not 4 brothers.so habar jecel is not 1 clan, but a union of 4 brothers aka 4 sub-clans. woow this is something new i learnt. So basically, habar jecel clan is equivalant to Sade, Kablalax, Leelkase, Awrtable that are in one bannersaraxnow, just to clear up the confusion of HJ it is like this:
Sheikh Isaaq married two women who each gave birth to 4 sons: Magaado gave birth to Abdiraxman (Awal), Ismaciil (Garxajis) Maxamed (Arab) & Ayuub; Xabusho gave birth to Muuse, Ibrahim (Sanbuur), Maxamed (Cibraan) & Axmed (Tol Jecle)
When magaado died Odayga Sh. Isaaq went to his other family and Axmed went with his father to his other brothers (from other bah) that's why he was called tol jecle, whilst his other three brothers (Muuse, Maxamed Cibraan and Ibrahim Sanbuur) chose to stay with their mother hence they were called together Habar Jeclo.
All three of them are called Habar jeclo but because 95% of HJ is from Muuse the name is mostly used for Muuse Sh. Isaaq.
So when someone says HJ they usually mean Muuse Sh. Isaaq.
Wuu is yeelyeelayaaI refuse to believe someone is actually this dumb..
do you read with ur futo:? 3 not 4 brothers.
Waliba one of them makes up 95% of the population..If you believe in tthe Maakhir state.. You might have a chance getting in that group..This thread will help me get into IPG.
Athiests are not allowed in the IPG KOWThis thread will help me get into IPG.
What has maakhir state got to do with the IPG westyIf you believe in tthe Maakhir state.. You might have a chance getting in that group..This thread will help me get into IPG.
No i read with my eyes. According to cumar aka labo-futo, Habar Habush has 4 sons, Muuse, Ibrahim, Maxamed and Axmed, and according to him all four of them come under Habar Jecel. Marka who is right? him or you? guys stop contradicting eachother, now i'm this close of resfusing to believe that isaaq are really somali but infact are what they are accused of: Habshi, Oromo and qashin oo midoowbay.do you read with ur futo:? 3 not 4 brothers.so habar jecel is not 1 clan, but a union of 4 brothers aka 4 sub-clans. woow this is something new i learnt. So basically, habar jecel clan is equivalant to Sade, Kablalax, Leelkase, Awrtable that are in one bannersaraxnow, just to clear up the confusion of HJ it is like this:
Sheikh Isaaq married two women who each gave birth to 4 sons: Magaado gave birth to Abdiraxman (Awal), Ismaciil (Garxajis) Maxamed (Arab) & Ayuub; Xabusho gave birth to Muuse, Ibrahim (Sanbuur), Maxamed (Cibraan) & Axmed (Tol Jecle)
When magaado died Odayga Sh. Isaaq went to his other family and Axmed went with his father to his other brothers (from other bah) that's why he was called tol jecle, whilst his other three brothers (Muuse, Maxamed Cibraan and Ibrahim Sanbuur) chose to stay with their mother hence they were called together Habar Jeclo.
All three of them are called Habar jeclo but because 95% of HJ is from Muuse the name is mostly used for Muuse Sh. Isaaq.
So when someone says HJ they usually mean Muuse Sh. Isaaq.
What has maakhir state got to do with the IPG westy
NO he will get in once he:
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