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Its not valid ...

As I said in another Thread ...

Somaliland borders dissolved permanently when it signed the acts of union with Southern Somalia. Permanent, indestructible and absolute. Somaliland will never break free.

The mother of all smokes screens is that somaliland joined Somalia this act of union was never actually completed so the question is not will Somaliland break free ...

The question is and remains Was Somaliland ever part of Somalia Hmm ..

A court judgement (by a British judge) in
Mogadishu in 1962 after the two former colonies united, laid doubt on the
complete legality in international law of the union of Somalia and Somaliland.

The two parliaments (Somalia and Somaliland) approved two different Acts of Union, and the legal formalities were never fully completed.
The Somaliland Act of Union requires the signature of representatives from Somalia which it never received.
The Somalia Act of Union was approved in principle but never enacted into law, and therefore the union of Somaliland and Somalia has no legal validity in Somalia.

Somaliland also fulfills all the legal requirements of Article 1 of the Montevideo Convention on the rights and duties of a state.

And I just stumbled across this ...

The official report of a AU fact-finding mission in Somaliland 2005 led by AU Deputy Chairperson Patrick Mazimhaka and it concludes :

The fact that the union between Somaliland and Somalia was never ratified and also malfunctioned when it went into action from 1960 to 1990, makes Somaliland's search for recognition historically unique and self-justified in African political history. Objectively viewed, the case should not be linked to the notion of ‘opening a Pandora's Box'. As such, the AU should find a special method of dealing with this outstanding case.

dont you know that those arguments are years old and irrelevant?

secessionists have tried all kinds of shit in their futile attemps to be recognised by the world. rehashing old and lame arguments isnt gonna work my dear.
for you to be recognised, you must first be recognised by SOMALIA....kabish!

D.P

dont you know that those arguments are years old and irrelevant?

secessionists have tried all kinds of shit in their futile attemps to be recognised by the world. rehashing old and lame arguments isnt gonna work my dear.
for you to be recognised, you must first be recognised by SOMALIA....kabish!

I heard somalilanders say it but not foreign officials ..

Hmm very interesting find


We don't even Recognize our union with somalia so therefore they have no authority in our eyes ...

Show us the act of union first

if thats the case why is your olm man shuffling along to mog

if thats the case why is your olm man shuffling along to mog

He's shuffling to hargeisa

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Original dervish just show us the act of union

unfortunately all somali archives have been destroyed.......but trust us your all still somali

unfortunately all somali archives have been destroyed.......but trust us your all still somali

LoooooooooooooooL....

Walaal Wax ma kuu sheegaa ...

Im somali Hundred percent ...

Somali is a nationality ...

And its mines ...

But Being somali doesnt equal


Get it right

The Fact is If Somaliland and Somalia Went to a court of Law ....

Somalia would NOT have a case on Her Claims on Somaliland ...

The act of union which is registerd in the United Nation, the Arab league and the African union is registerd between Somaliland and The Somali Republic .

Somalia was never Our Country ...

You have imposed that name Somalia and that flag Upon us ...

The actual union has no validity in International law as it was incomplete and between the The somali Republic and Somaliland ...

Where is the act of union between Somalia and Somaliland?

Somaliland case for independence is not a Legal one but a political one ...

@ Princess Lick

My clever girl swag

there was never a union between 2 states, 1960 somali independence was a reunification of somali territories
if there was a a legal state then it was italian somaliland because it was member of the united nations and under trusteeship.

somaliland in post british was classfied legaly a noting more then "somali territory" it was never under trusteship or a member of united nations
even under the british colonialism somaliland was never a state but it was revered as " british somaliland Protectorate" now that classification is difrenent from that of a protected state.
somaliland like italian somaliland never made the transition from trusteeship to fully statehood and a member of united nations

A protectorate, in the British Empire, is a territory which is not formally annexed but in which, by treaty, grant or other lawful means, the Crown has power and jurisdiction

A protectorate differs from a "protected state". A protected state is a territory under a ruler which enjoys Her Britannic Majesty's protection, over whose foreign affairs she exercises control, but in respect of whose internal affairs she does not exercise jurisdiction

Khedivate of Egypt=protected state under the british
british somaliland=protectorate territory under the british

there was never a union between 2 states, 1960 somali independence was a reunification of somali territories
if there was a a legal state then it was italian somaliland because it was member of the united nations and under trusteeship.

somaliland in post british was classfied legaly a noting more then "somali territory" it was never under trusteship or a member of united nations
even under the british colonialism somaliland was never a state but it was revered as " british somaliland Protectorate" now that classification is difrenent from that of a protected state.
somaliland like italian somaliland never made the transition from trusteeship to fully statehood and a member of united nations

A protectorate, in the British Empire, is a territory which is not formally annexed but in which, by treaty, grant or other lawful means, the Crown has power and jurisdiction

A protectorate differs from a "protected state". A protected state is a territory under a ruler which enjoys Her Britannic Majesty's protection, over whose foreign affairs she exercises control, but in respect of whose internal affairs she does not exercise jurisdiction

Khedivate of Egypt=protected state under the british
british somaliland=protectorate territory under the british

there was never a union between 2 states

Hmmm Interesting Theory you hatched there I dont know how that works in your favour but still interesting lol ....

So we have established somalia has no union with somaliland ...

Thank you for admitting that ...

reunification of somali territories

Now this were we differ Somalia's supporters have systematically erase our history and heritage by making such outlandish statements ...

Now We all know Somalia and Somaliland never had ties before 1960 ...

Prove being Somalia didn't exist before 1960 lol ...

Its a 60 yr old country ....

More to the point however if you want to built a case against Somaliland and for you to be in the morally High ground and not just trying to erase somaliland history and then impose yourself on Somalilanders ...

You will have to prove that somaliland had ties with The south and vice versa before colonization took place ..

i.e. What Was The central Government of the region now called Somalia that included somaliland and Somalia under one reigning umbrella?

Hmm should be interesting Read and I look forward to it



Reunification however is not the correct word for you to have used it was more of a Experiment ...

It was not based on historical links or ties ...

It was a idea, theory and experiment not a reunification lol.



However Colonization of Africa you are right it was under trusteship ...

Now the question is from whom did the Somali territories belong to?

The fact is and shall remain that Somali land belonged to the Somaliland people whom where colonized ...

and once the british had left the Land of Somaliland was returned to its rightfull owners....

On 26th June 1960, Somaliland was formally recognized as the Republic of Somaliland by UN and other 35 countries including Britain, Israel, Egypt and USA.

No we must not get confused Being somali is a nationality ...

The same way arabs have different countries and borders yet all fall under the umbrella of the Arab League ...

This were you get confused ...

Now here is where the act of union took place of two different countries with the same nationality ...

The president of that time comments

“In 1960, I took a country – Somaliland – with a viable economy and budget of 2.5 million pounds to Mogadishu” he continued “Our Somaliland’s previous existence, history and everything else has been eliminated and erased” Late President of Somaliland Mohamed H. Ibrahim Egal said.

Somalia has no Case against Somaliland and the act of union is unlawfull, illegal and illegitimate and must be Ignored as a historical Blunder...

On 26th June 1960, Somaliland was formally recognized as the Republic of Somaliland by UN and other 35 countries including Britain, Israel, Egypt and USA.

somaliland never even applied for united nation membership
get me records of somaliland as a state applying for recognition by any state let alone united nations.
did you know the formation of the somali state was allready agreed way before 1960
the flag was made in jigjiga and the SYL was seated in jigjiga

idoorku are funny people, they get you sources from other idoors and want you to take it holly truth

ps: still British somaliland is a defunct entity and the treaties which formed the basis of the protectored where nullified when somalia sovereignty was extended through out the somali republic.
let me explain to you in a simple way, once there was a state called prussia today that state doesn`t existed ,it is now part of Germany, so that state only exists in history noiw that is the same as british somaliland
Don`t confuse british somaliland, and current isaaq somaliland they are to different entities