52nd Oilbarrel Conference

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Why are you guys making a mountain out of a mole-hill? Seriously, is there something in the water in africa? It should not be this hard to devise a standard, all-across-the-board tax rate on all forms of income both personal and commercial. It should not be hard to devise a proper budget based on Somaliland's revenue and then to prioritize Education and health, particularly Primary/high School and local clinics/doctors-without-borders programmes. It should not be hard to develop a 10 year plan for primary infrastrcuture development particularly roads, water-supply and water-sanitation and electricity - especially for a country of only 4 million max. I mean seriously, I'm begining to doubt the intelligience of somalis. Meanwhile there are a hundred different and pointless political parties all vying for power wasting time, money and resources on pointless endeavours. Hou often do you hear of a new factory being built? Compare that to how often you hear of shirs and conferences. We just like to talk but we do absolutley nothing.


P.S. I'm sorry if I sound like such a downer, but I live in the real world. Those of you who think there has actually been any progress in the last 20 years are living in a fantasy and seem to be very comfortable in your delusions.

[Saraxnow]

^I don't even believe you ever visited the homeland.That's all fine and dandy;you need to follow up on and acknowledge all difficulties any planning faces in order to call yourself a realist though.

Lol@King.

How did our adeer Godane do that?

Islam.

Godane is but one man among many determine leaders, if a person fears god and isn't interested in dunya materialism, aint no telling what he can accomplish, u add many like minded people and it's just an endless possibility.

Now on the other hand, if u spot a clean shaven suite wearing politician, waa iska corrupt by nature.

I think their authority is better respected and so are much more effective. For example, in Sl there are many people who did not bother pay their taxes because they believed it was a loss and they didn't understand it's importance,so the gov. introduced publicity campaigns : ''cashuurta bixiya'' smh

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Actually I've been to Somaliland three times in the last ten years, although I don't see how it would make my point less valid even if I've never set foot in the place. Acknowledging difficulties is all fine and dandy, its when people use that as an excuse that it becomes problematic. And I always keep myself up to date on economic matters in Somalia, I don't give a fig about politics.

[Khalid Ali]

I agree with abdi ismail oil is a blessing but its not everything
We need a working system we need to invest in human resources
Here in somaliland. 70 percent of the people are below the age of 35
Jobs can be created with the right mechanism and its true people are pretty educated
There are problems an unrecognized country a country that is at war with its neighbor here and there
The government budget huge parts goes to the army.
Somaliland economy needs to be driven by the working class there should be large scale industry right now everything imported from abroad this can be created if we invest in the right sector instead of people building hotels daily why not manufacture products. Oil is good and if we drill it good but we should not rely on that only
But slowely I see foreign western companies opening up here its heading the right
But we are just missing our part of the game we need to create a better economy

[KingMJ]

How did our adeer Godane do that?

Islam.

Godane is but one man among many determine leaders, if a person fears god and isn't interested in dunya materialism, aint no telling what he can accomplish, u add many like minded people and it's just an endless possibility.

Now on the other hand, if u spot a clean shaven suite wearing politician, waa iska corrupt by nature.

True as we've seen time and time again the worst people amongst Somalis are the suited up corrupt politicians they'll do anything for some paper

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

How did our adeer Godane do that?

Islam.

Godane is but one man among many determine leaders, if a person fears god and isn't interested in dunya materialism, aint no telling what he can accomplish, u add many like minded people and it's just an endless possibility.

Now on the other hand, if u spot a clean shaven suite wearing politician, waa iska corrupt by nature.

True as we've seen time and time again the worst people amongst Somalis are the suited up corrupt politicians they'll do anything for some paper

Lol and alshabab aren't corrupt? What about the "sheikh" who gets into the country by claiming he's a minority clan being abused and then goes on to claim benefits? Corruption is part of somali culture, it isn't individual isolated cases.

[Somalistan]

lol@al shabab being discussed. really guys?

[Saraxnow]

Actually I've been to Somaliland three times in the last ten years, although I don't see how it would make my point less valid even if I've never set foot in the place. Acknowledging difficulties is all fine and dandy, its when people use that as an excuse that it becomes problematic. And I always keep myself up to date on economic matters in Somalia, I don't give a fig about politics.

The reason why I raised the question of whether you have, is because of seeing what seemed like emotionally-driven statements like ''no progress in the last 20 years''. If for e.g.in a largely nomadic pastoral society, a jump from a 20% literacy rate to a 45 % in 10 years isn't progress, then I don't know what is.
What I meant by acknowledging difficulties was, that we should recognise the challenges while knowing the full facts, like say, 50% of our income goes into security because of the fantastically absurd horn we live in. In short, taking a more holistic view is more reasonable.

[AbdiWahab252]

There is great potential. It just requires certain requirements to get it from potential to reality: international recognition, continued stability and a legal framework. The first is the most important and if that comes, Jacka will be kicked to the curb by the serious players: Conoco, Exxon, CNOC, etc.

It will be a dream to see Somalis being rich someday be it under Somaliland or Somalia. Imagine how it would feel to be sending food aid and humanitarian assistance to poor nations.

[Siciid85]

Somaliland has complete control over this territory there is nothing to stop extracting oil in Odweyne as Somalia is too weak to even challenge it legally in the courts.

[Notorious13]

Holler @ me for inside info!

[original dervish]

Legally speaking all resources belong to the nation state i.e Rep of Somalia, not some tribally based theme park, aka somaliland

[Siciid85]

Sool>property of Somaliland.

Somalia>property of AMISOM.

After Oodweyne, we coming for Nugaal basin(northern Sool). Bohol can serve as the base of operations for the black gold companies.

[ZubeirAwal]

Theirs alot of Oil and gas in Sahil also, and in Awdal. Somaliland is blessed with resources Alhamdulilah, most people think we are crazy for having a coca cola bottling plant in the middle of a desert but since the map of africa's water was released it showed the whole Somaliland is filled with water underground. Gold, Gems, Water, Oil, Gas

I know this map i created is a bit incorrect on the Nugal oil that stretches all the way to the Sahil coast, but the Oil in Somaliland is something like this.

[original dervish]

here we go again