Dr Gaboose accuses Siilanyo of incompetence

[Siciid85]

Don't try and project your insecurities just because Marehan have many unknowns among them. Daadka siidisa oo kale ayuu mooday. Damal Muuse wa rag taarikh ku leh Habar yoonis oo waxa ka dhashay halyeey Ina Igarre ninki beelo badan oo Habar Yoonis ah hub siiyey dhabar jabiiyeyna Darawish. Damal Muuse are well respected sub clan among HY, your lame efforts to stain their shirt won't work in here. You should be concerned with the many unknowns among your group not daad la yaqaano oo taarikh ku leh Somaliland iyo bulshaada Somaliyeedba. Gaboose wa nin ku dhashay Galkayo he was present when one of his own cousins a Damal Muuse Habar Yoonis was the governor of Mudug in the 1960s.

This is what you should be concerned about not daad la yaqaano.

[Eaglehawk]

kan wa iska ciyaal

saciid wahaga wa ila muran

Boon= subject of marexaan

habar yonis poet

hadanu diini magantisa nahay ama marexaanba nama midib gumeystan xagay no mitiriyan

saciid you are boon and am marexaan, do you understand the meaning of boon marexaan now, its just the relations between master and slave

you never had a kingdom you will not understand the relations between master and subject

saciid ya no heesi jiray ma taqaan= habar yonis, our favorite boon

this getting boring saciid iska noolow saxib

[Siciid85]

It says a section of Marehan the bon Marehan so basically it is sub clan that intermarried with Tumaals, Boranos and are part of Marehan thus makes the nasabness of the whole clan questioned in Somali dhaqan. lol since when did Dharbaxo jiin became HY? ileen caruurta boli qaran beenta wa lagu dhala shameless lot. It is out of context and his not HY.



This is what the HY poet Qaasim said about your kins.


Marreexaan Gun bays urursatee gacal ha moodeene
Iyaga iyo Gabooyahaba waa galabsigoodiiye
Guryaha ay Mafiiqda u siteen yaanay soo geline

[Eaglehawk]

saciidow, Hadal badan haan ma buuxsho ee, I consider you my boon.
hal hees igu dhuufo bal saxiib, just for old times' sake

[Siciid85]

The only Boons i know are none other than Bon Marehan sub clan of Marehan be proud of your roots. Ya Salaam no hard feelings.

[KingMJ]

anaka reer abti u ah gaboose wa nin dir ah, qubeys ba sheegta abahis ila maanta wana reer mudug/galgaduud

granpa the guy we knew in mudug as ina gaboose(dir clan) is now high ranking politician and part of habar yonis clan Galtidu cadi maha so maha

What the hell are you talking about

Gaboose is HY to the core, I know of him personally and he has took part in Habar yonis clan meetings and this was over a decade ago. He's as Habar Yonis and Isaaq as anyone and he's proud of it and he never claims dir or qubeys smh

[Bro]

If my memory serves me well, this Dr Gaboose is originally from galkacyo oo waliba reer mudug oo la yaqaano, he was also the doctor for the late MSB AUN. With that said he is also a well known flip floper when it comes to his origins. My adeer has had the pleasure of meeting this gentleman and he clearly stated Dir Rooble. Dir rooble has always been a confused bunch, never really are they clear on their stance, or state exactly what they are, in Somaliland they'll say they're isaaq, in Mudug it's the total opposite.

[CoolPoisons]

Gabose waa caasi

Rer abtigiis (Rer Dini) ayaa so korsaday and has lived in Mudug all his life

in 1991 ayuu bartay inu waqooyi ka so jeedo

he was close to Jale Siad. waxaan xasuusta mar u yiri ka hor intusan baxsan, Jale Siad hogaamiye xun ma ahee laakin lataliyaashisa ayaa xun

[The`Republic]

Eaglehawk-

Sometimes it is better to reconsider one's approach. If Damal Muuse say they are HY/Isaaq and that clan and they are in agreement it is not in our position to question. It is best to let it be. Maybe the Damal Muuse did venture farther south then other Isaaqs and for "diya" paying purposes did for a time throw in their lot with Dir but backtracked. Though few Marehans know this but I have read a bit on how Murule of Hawiye when they left Hiiraan for NFD sought protection from Marehan and paid diya but when they become numerous took back their Diya responsibility. They did this to have protection from Garre under the umbrella of "pure Somali" with Marehan as I have read. Today this is the basis of the Marehan and Murulle alliance in NFD.

Siciid-

I have never understand the term Bon Marehan but I have always saw it as Eaglehawk did. If Italian libraries contain coded Marehan Xeer which has been sourced in this forum and which include the practice of slavery by Marehan around that time, these observations from earlier writings must have been acknowledging the slaves/servants/magan to Marehan using the description Marehan themselves used which is "boonteena". Same thing with saying Johnson's slaves in American slave terms or the serfs of the Viscount in British terms.

As for Hawlraarsame, it has been explained here many times through objective writings and historical record. They are a Marehan sub-clan who were faced with the practice of "takxir" by other Marehans for killing the Darod/Marehan leader Boqor Mohamed Da'uud. Their origins has never been questioned despite the stigma they faced by other Marehans. Notice the list you bring is of disadvantaged groups and including Madhiban, Tumal...Hawlrarsame is mentioned in the list as disadvantaged with them them but one is not the other. Ironic you use this against the Marehan who themselves were the cause of this.

All these things are primitive and stupid in my opinion. One of the things I have most spoken against on this forum is the Somali caste system believing no Madhiban is less noble than a Darod or Isaaq let alone sub-clans in the last two groups who ere disadvantaged for reasons other than "noble birth.

It is in that spirit I criticize both you and Eaglehawk for acknowleding and giving power dynamics to caste system through the very basis of your argument.

[Advo]

the damal muse sub clan of muse carre have gone the furthest, they had significant presence in lower jubba and owned animals and farms, but were robbed and evicted by the clan militias in the area. You will also find tons of damal muse that reside and intermerry with merehans in doolo. I know like 10 families that were all born and grew up in doolow and all have merehan rer abtis.

however, there are other isaaq clans that were assimilated into different clans such barsuug(arap) and macalin wayne(sacad muse) who are both isaq but in raxanwein Confederacy.

also rer ahmed, sub clan of merehan might have originally been one with rer ahmed of sacad muse.

this isn't just isaaqs btw, other clans have lost some members that gotten assimilated into different somali clans. it happens.

I never thought I'd hear some Issaqs were roaming around jubba with their camels

But anyways those are interesting theories specially the one about the raxanweeyne one, as I heard raxanweeyne are people that deliberately came together for a common purpose, the people have various orgins, you will find hawiye, darood and issaqs etc in them but for protection, politics and so on they came together in that era.

[The`Republic]

Advo-

Beesha Isaaq have settlements even. Ever heard of Hargeisa Yaray near Beerxaani in Kismaayo district? One of my cousins that you know has an Isaaq wife who lives in Beled-Xaawo but whose family who are Ciidagle are from Luuq. Raage and Mohamed Oomar's family are also from Beled-Xaawo and northern Gedo. Truth be told Isaaq legacy extends farther than Damal Muuse and Mudug but up to Isiolo in NFD. One of the things Isaaq should recognize is their investments are buried much farther than just the Hargeisa and Burco they want to cardon off.

[Thuganomics]

One of the things I have most spoken against on this forum is the Somali caste system believing no Madhiban is less noble than a Darod or Isaaq

Voltage

[Cirwaaq]

One of the things I have most spoken against on this forum is the Somali caste system believing no Madhiban is less noble than a Darod or Isaaq

Voltage

Somethings must be written into Somali constitutions and made LAW.

Equality = Prosperity

[Advo]

Advo-

Raage and Mohamed Oomar's family are also from Beled-Xaawo and northern Gedo.

you serious? how come I never heard of this.

[Thuganomics]

Advo-

Raage and Mohamed Oomar's family are also from Beled-Xaawo and northern Gedo.

you serious? how come I never heard of this.

If Baardheere is Northern Gedo then yeah that's where Oomaar settled and married his Ogaden wife