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Letter fom sultan Faarax to Sultan Saqr Sultan Al Qaasmi1837

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Letter fom sultan Faarax to Sultan Saqr Sultan Al Qaasmi1837

Postby X.Playa » Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:56 am

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This is one page from a recent book written by Dr . sh suldaan bin Mohamed Al Qaasimi the current sultan of Shaariqa , regarding a letter from Sultaan Faraax Suldaan Guuleed the Isaaq sultan in 1837 regarding the British blockade of Berbera during the incident of Queen Ann , where the local Habar Awal killed hte crew. The British navy blockaded Berbera for almost three years. This is one page of of the story whihc contains 1 letter out of 7/8 letters from Suldan Faarax to Suldan Saqr the ancestor of the currect Suldan os Shaariqa Sheek Suldaan Ibn Maxamed. The letter is dated 1837, just before Suldaan Faarax was assasinated bt Magan Suldaan plot (see the above thread of Magan Suldan".

Boosaaso use to be called Bendar Qaasim, the name came from this particular family which owned most of the trade or control part of it, hence Bendar Qaasim ( now Boosaaso(.

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Re: Letter fom sultan Faarax to Sultan Saqr Sultan Al Qaasmi

Postby Coldoon » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:05 am

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This is one page from a recent book written by Dr . sh suldaan bin Mohamed Al Qaasimi the current sultan of Shaariqa , regarding a letter from Sultaan Faraax Suldaan Guuleed the Isaaq sultan in 1837 regarding the British blockade of Berbera during the incident of Queen Ann , where the local Habar Awal killed hte crew. The British navy blockaded Berbera for almost three years. This is one page of of the story whihc contains 1 letter out of 7/8 letters from Suldan Faarax to Suldan Saqr the ancestor of the currect Suldan os Shaariqa Sheek Suldaan Ibn Maxamed. The letter is dated 1837, just before Suldaan Faarax was assasinated bt Magan Suldaan plot (see the above thread of Magan Suldan".

Boosaaso use to be called Bendar Qaasim, the name came from this particular family which owned most of the trade or control part of it, hence Bendar Qaasim ( now Boosaaso(.
You're spewing BULLSHIT, again.

Here is the truth. You said "1837", when in fact, it was AFTER 1839 that Europeans begun to have interest in Somalia.
European interest in Somalia develops after 1839, when the British begin to use Aden, on the south coast of Arabia, as a coaling station for ships on the route to India. The British garrison requires meat. The easiest local source is the Somali coast.

Read more: http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/Pla ... z28nLsBNxy
British influence in the coastal area around Zeila and Berbera is formalized during the 1880s in a series of treaties promising protection to the chieftains of various local Somali clans. The region becomes a protectorate under the title of British Somalilan

Read more: http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/Pla ... z28nMPo9aa

Isaaq clan treaties with the British.

We, the undersigned Elders of the Habr Toljaala tribe,
are desirous of entering into an Agreement with the
British Government for the maintenance of our
independence, the preservation of order, and other
good and sufficient reasons.

Now it is hereby agreed and covenanted as follows:-

ART. I. The Habr Toljaala tribe declare that they are
pledged and bound never to cede, sell, mortgage, or
otherwise give for occupation, save to the British
Government, any portion of the territory presently
inhabited by them, or being under their control.


ART. II. All vessels under the British flag shall have
free permission to trade at all ports and places
within the territories of the Habr Toljaala, and the
tribe is bound to render assistance to any vessel,
whether British or belonging to any other nation, that
may be wrecked on the above-mentioned shores, and to
protect the crew, the passengers, and cargo of such
vessels, giving speedy intimation to the Resident at
Aden of the circumstances, for which act of friendship
and good-will a suitable reward will be given by the
British Government.

ART. III. All British subjects residing in or visiting
the territories of the Habr Toljaala shall enjoy
perfect safety and protection, and shall be entitled
to travel all over the said limits under the
safe-conduct of the Elders of the tribe
In token of the conclusion of this lawful and
honourable bond, Dirir Shaikh Don, ….[INSERT THE
NAMES OF THE ELDERS HERE]…..;and Major Frederick
Mercer Hunter, Assistant Political Resident, the
former for themselves, their heirs and successors, and
the latter on behalf of the British Government, do
each and all, in the presence of witnesses, affix
their signatures, marks, and seals, at Aden, on the
26th day of December, 1884, corresponding with the 9th
of Rabu-al-Awal, 1302

F. M. Hunter
(the marks of Elders named.)

Agreement with Habr Toljaala, Aden, December 26,1884

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
We, the undersigned Elders of the Habr Gerhajis tribe,
are desirous of entering into an Agreement with the
British Government for the maintenance of our
independence, the preservation of order, and other
good and sufficient reasons.

Now it is hereby agreed and covenanted as follows:-

ART. I. The Habr Gerhajis tribe do hereby declare that
they are pledged and bound never to cede, sell,
mortgage, or otherwise give for occupation, save to
the British Government, any portion of the territory
presently inhabited by them, or being under their
control.

ART. II. All vessels under the British flag shall have
free permission to trade at all ports and places
within the territories of the Habr Gerhajis, and the
tribe is bound to render assistance to any vessel,
whether British or belonging to any other nation, that
may be wrecked on the above-mentioned shores, and to
protect the crew, the passengers, and cargo of such
vessels, giving speedy intimation to the Resident at
Aden of the circumstances, for which act of friendship
and good-will a suitable reward will be given by the
British Government.

ART. III. All British subjects residing in or visiting
the territories of the Habra Gerhajis tribe shall
enjoy perfect safety and protection, and shall be
entitled to travel all over the said limits under the
safe-conduct of the Elders of the tribe

In token of the conclusion of this lawful and
honourable bond, Ahmed Ali, ……..and Major Frederick Mercer
Hunter, Assistant Political Resident at Aden, the
former for themselves, their heirs and successors, and
the latter on behalf of the British Government, do
each and all, in the presence of witnesses, affix
their signatures, marks, and seals, at Aden, on the
13th day of December, 1885, corresponding with the
28th of Rabi-al-Awal, 1302

F. M. Hunter
(Signatures of Elders)
Agreement with Habr Gerhajis, Aden, January 13,1885

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________

WHEREAS the garrisons of His Highness the Khedive are
about to be withdrawn from Berbera and Bulhar, and the
Somali Coast generally, we, the undersigned Elders of
the Habr-Awal tribe, are desirous of entering into an
Agreement with the British Government for the
maintenance of our independence, the preservation of
order, and other good and sufficient reasons.

Now it is hereby agreed and covenanted as follows:-

ART. I. The Habr-Awal tribe do hereby declare that
they are pledged and bound never to cede, sell,
mortgage, or otherwise give for occupation, save to
the British Government, any portion of the territory
presently inhabited by them, or being under their
control.

ART. II. All vessels under the British flag shall have
free permission to trade at the ports of Berbera,
Bulhar, and other places in the territories of the
Habr-Awal tribe

ART. III. All British subjects residing in or visiting
the territories of the Habr-Awal shall enjoy perfect
safety and protection, and shall be entitled to travel
all over the said limits under the safe-conduct of the
Elders of the tribe
……

In token of the conclusion of this lawful and
honourable bond, Abdellah Liban, ……..and Major Frederick Mercer
Hunter, the officiating Political Resident of Aden,
the former for themselves, their heirs and successors,
and the latter on behalf of the British Government, do
each and all, in the presence of witnesses, affix
their signatures, marks, and seals, at Berbera, on the
21st day Ramdhan, 1301, corresponding with the 14th
July, 1884

F. M. Hunter, Major,
Officiating Political Resident, Aden.
Agreement with Habr-Awal, Berbera, July 14, 1884
Your LIE is busted. Forging letters and trying to rewrite history to project yourselves as "Fighters Against Colonial Invaders", when in fact, your Suldans and Clan Chiefs were the first to bow down to the arrival of the British.

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Re: Letter fom sultan Faarax to Sultan Saqr Sultan Al Qaasmi

Postby afisoone » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:10 am

Ummmmmmmmmmm.. I never heard such a letter, in fact they welcome the British with Open hand.

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Re: Letter fom sultan Faarax to Sultan Saqr Sultan Al Qaasmi

Postby X.Playa » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:14 am

what the hell you talking about kid??? This 1837 no Dhulbahnate even knew what cloths were they were all buck naked wearing "dhuug" , this is way beyond your Idaajaa and Aw Jaamac rants, step aside kid. 1837 not 1885 , almost 50 years before , maybe you have a problem reading .

رسائل زعماء الصومال إلى الشيخ سلطان بن صقر القاسمي في العام 1837،

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Re: Letter fom sultan Faarax to Sultan Saqr Sultan Al Qaasmi

Postby X.Playa » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:15 am

Ummmmmmmmmmm.. I never heard such a letter, in fact they welcome the British with Open hand.

History doesn't need to be heared by some big lips Bantu to be legit. eat your banana monkey

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Re: Letter fom sultan Faarax to Sultan Saqr Sultan Al Qaasmi

Postby Coldoon » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:23 am

what the hell you talking about kid??? This 1837 no Dhulbahnate even knew what cloths were they were all buck naked wearing "dhuug" , this is way beyond your Idaajaa and Aw Jaamac rants, step aside kid. 1837 not 1885 , almost 50 years before , maybe you have a problem reading .

رسائل زعماء الصومال إلى الشيخ سلطان بن صقر القاسمي في العام 1837،

http://books.google.ca/books/about/%D8% ... edir_esc=y
AGAIN, once your lies were busted, you resorted in a childish attempt in trying to insult Dhulbahante, a Somali clan that adhered to the religion of Islam since the the arrival of Islam in the Horn of Africa. For your information, ISLAM teaches people to dress modestly. I'm quiet sure, every Somali clan that was adhering to ISLAM were not naked.

You lied about the forged letters and now you're lying about Dhulbahante being naked. :lol:

The Isaaq are on a mission. They are trying to, by all means necessary project themselves as "Somali Heros". Unfortunately, not even the British recognize the Isaaq as "Heros", but as their previous Servants. :lol:

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Re: Letter fom sultan Faarax to Sultan Saqr Sultan Al Qaasmi

Postby X.Playa » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:27 am

How am i lying about a book with that title on sale and even in google. Waar dadkiinan Daaroodku waad waalateen.

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Re: Letter fom sultan Faarax to Sultan Saqr Sultan Al Qaasmi

Postby original dervish » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:01 am

I think we`ve seen enough of xplayers marfish inspired pseudo scholarship.
It was a good attempt though......I`ll give him that :D :up: :u

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Re: Letter fom sultan Faarax to Sultan Saqr Sultan Al Qaasmi

Postby X.Playa » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:09 am

what a name and what a brain you got.

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Re: Letter fom sultan Faarax to Sultan Saqr Sultan Al Qaasmi

Postby Coldoon » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:12 am

Lies won't get you far, X.Playa.
“A single lie destroys a whole reputation for integrity”

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Re: Letter fom sultan Faarax to Sultan Saqr Sultan Al Qaasmi

Postby X.Playa » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:16 am

Lies won't get you far, X.Playa.
“A single lie destroys a whole reputation for integrity”
I tell you what to do since Daarood history don't go back further then 1974, why not post Ismaaciil Mire's poem and write 1837 beside it, your people are good with these things.

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Re: Letter fom sultan Faarax to Sultan Saqr Sultan Al Qaasmi

Postby original dervish » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:25 am

your unhealthy obsession with our dervish is pathetic.
Learn to accept your history. your people were, and still are, collaborators of the gaalo.
I would have thought that due to your position on Islam, you would be proud of your forefathers treachery :D
Accept it and move on iidoor. :D

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Re: Letter fom sultan Faarax to Sultan Saqr Sultan Al Qaasmi

Postby X.Playa » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:28 am

Your history during th Devrish was Ismaaciil Mire a stable boy who called the Mullah "daady" lool i wonder if the Mullah use to aske him after midnight "who is your big daddy" while Ismaaciil squealed and answered "you my big daddy"

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Re: Letter fom sultan Faarax to Sultan Saqr Sultan Al Qaasmi

Postby Coldoon » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:33 am

Lies won't get you far, X.Playa.
“A single lie destroys a whole reputation for integrity”
I tell you what to do since Daarood history don't go back further then 1974, why not post Ismaaciil Mire's poem and write 1837 beside it, your people are good with these things.
Now, accusing us what you have been accused of. Do you think we do what you guys are good at, which is forge documents and try to rewrite history with blatant lies?

You have been caught red-handed. You spewed 20 pages of lies, only to have it backfire at you. :lol:

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Re: Letter fom sultan Faarax to Sultan Saqr Sultan Al Qaasmi

Postby X.Playa » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:51 am

Those who use old documents to write history are called proper hisotrians, the Daarood that writes history out of their arses with no documents in the 1970's those are called revisionest, learn the logic of the world boy.


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