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Mandatory Service

Postby LiquidHYDROGEN » Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:23 am

What do gou guys think of introducing mandatory military service for SL citizens? The ages between 18-20 and 28-30, altogether a 4 year service for all males. This would improve discipline in youth, remove layabouts and ciyaalasuuq and they wouldn't just be trained for combat but also be used to build roads, bridges, water reservoirs and other infrastructure. The only problem would be equiping all these recruits (training them wouldn't be hard).

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Re: Mandatory Service

Postby STARKAST » Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:26 am

Do you really want more isaaq of working age to leave the triangle via taariib ? :idea:

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Re: Mandatory Service

Postby gulaid111 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:33 am

That's a great idea

But I doubt we would see it anytime soon, Insha Allah after Siilanyo finishes his term we would get to do lot of things
That's the main reason we need young fresh minds in the cabinet, parliament everywhere except the Guurti let 'em odayaal chill in there but no where else

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Re: Mandatory Service

Postby Lillaahiya » Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:59 am

Askari ayaaba tahay :wtf:

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Re: Mandatory Service

Postby LiquidHYDROGEN » Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:14 pm

Lillaahiya wrote:Askari ayaaba tahay :wtf:


No, I despise war. But unfortunately war is like going to the toilet, a necessary fact of life.

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Re: Mandatory Service

Postby Lillaahiya » Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:21 pm

Mandatory service though? Why not pay raises and other perks for those who join the army/national police force/marines?

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Re: Mandatory Service

Postby LiquidHYDROGEN » Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:50 pm

Because we are surrounded by enemies and unstable countries. Because our army is too small and undisciplined. Plus the equipment they have is so old they might as well use muskets and cannons. A yearly recruitment will add fresh blood and vigour to a mismanaged institution. It would also provide employment to youths and get them off the streets giving a sense of brotherhood and community. A payrise doesn't do anything as demonstrated by the useless Silanyo administration.

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Re: Mandatory Service

Postby SecretAgent » Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:54 pm

So silanyo thinks is cool to name 16 saad muse as new military officers , 5 Hy,4 hj ,1harti fuk somaliland

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Re: Mandatory Service

Postby Lillaahiya » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:12 pm

How about funding?

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Re: Mandatory Service

Postby Hawdian » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:00 am

I believe in mandatory services but SL has a lot of things wrong and they should be addressed. For example at present, SL has huge army but 70% of them are not fit, 60% are not equipped probably, there are too many elders in there, there is lack of organization and accountability.

I would suggest:

1) Organizing them into six divisions.

2) Age limit should be 19-38.

3) Females should be encouraged to join, they don't need to be in the battle field but they can sure work in offices,

4) There should be medical division and food and logistical body.

5) Wages should be increased based on number of years served. A new recruit should not be getting same pay as some one who has been with the force for 10 years.

6) When they are not in combat, they should be despatched to help poor families and doing free labor such as helping build barkaado for nomads, wells, new homes, paving roads, collecting sand, stone for Municipal Councils (for roads, pavements)...they should help with the trash.

90% of the time they are sitting there chewing khat and receiving 60% of the region's total GDP.

They need to get to work and start doing things. Army isn't just for war.

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Re: Mandatory Service

Postby gurey25 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:23 am

Hawdian wrote:I believe in mandatory services but SL has a lot of things wrong and they should be addressed. For example at present, SL has huge army but 70% of them are not fit, 60% are not equipped probably, there are too many elders in there, there is lack of organization and accountability.

I would suggest:

1) Organizing them into six divisions.

2) Age limit should be 19-38.

3) Females should be encouraged to join, they don't need to be in the battle field but they can sure work in offices,

4) There should be medical division and food and logistical body.

5) Wages should be increased based on number of years served. A new recruit should not be getting same pay as some one who has been with the force for 10 years.

6) When they are not in combat, they should be despatched to help poor families and doing free labor such as helping build barkaado for nomads, wells, new homes, paving roads, collecting sand, stone for Municipal Councils (for roads, pavements)...they should help with the trash.

90% of the time they are sitting there chewing khat and receiving 60% of the region's total GDP.

They need to get to work and start doing things. Army isn't just for war.



Exactly.

There should be a 2 years service.
Those who have university/college or higher education would be exempt untill graduation, they can go into the officer program.
Everyone else should rise through ranks from NCO to officer.
We have allot of successful and relative models to use.

The training period required to turn fresh recruits into basic functioning armed force is actually pretty low.
No more 3 months of intensive training is needed. The rest of the 2 years should be spent on education/literacy, and periodic training upgrades.
by building roads, wells, farming etc they should be receiving training as well and they will be able to create their own businesses, when they finish their terms.


The national service is not just defense but a tool of development, and education.
From this pool of national service you can identify talent and concentrate them in special groups and push them harder and provide a higher level of training and development.
You can teach an illiterate geeljire or ciyaal suuq kid the entire high school curriculum in a few months, you can teach then advanced skills in electronics/software/electrical other engineering and medical knowledge in 1/2 the time it takes a university or less , depending on their level of intelligence.
Isreal has such a program, so does singapore.
Isreal has national service from 18 years on for 3 years , they have special programs from under 18's of special talent,
they have 15 to 18 year olds doing university level work before national service, and during national service allot of them are doing PHD level work before they are 22 years old.

I have a cousin that i met when i was a 15 and he was older at 20, the family got him a residence visa in the emirates.
He grew up in the bush, and was a geeljire and illiterate, never stepping inside a school.
when they put him into special night classes, he excelled and was fluent in arabic and english and hindi/urdu in a year.
He had an instinctive understanding of mathematics, never studied it.
In under a year he was helping me with my GCSE' maths. He was taking apart TV' radios and repairing them and could fix any car problems.

There must be thousand of people like him out there.


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