Proposed Route For Ceerigaabo - Burco Road

[abdikarim86]

As if we're trying to build a motorway of the "Caalami" Standard,
We are attempting a simple 2 way asphalt road of 300km length
between Ina Afmadoobe and Ceerigaabo.
It must seem an impossible feat to your kind but we believe it's possible

Mida kale Maxaa kaa galey Sanaag and its developmen,I remember you
making quite a fuss about the Maydh Port and now you make this fuss over
the Burco-Ceerigaabo road....why get your knickersin a twist over somewhere
that doesn't belong to you?

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

I understand and I would put a million things ahead of this project in terms of importance. However I'm not in charge, so all we can do is support this project and hope it works out for the best.

As to your previous statement some of your ideas are similar to mine but slightly different. I would first sort out the currency problems with the country. I would set up a couple of government controlled state-banks. Commercial banks would be banned. I would also ban the use of the dollar domestically before anything else.

In terms of universities, you're right all the private institutions need to be reduced if not removed all together, they lower the standards of education. I would have three main reputable unis subsidised by the government, the rest being technical colleges and apprenticeships. With teaching staff selected from the best of Somali and non-Somalis around the world. The unis would be geared 75% towards STEM subjects while the remaining percentage would be focused on Humanities like Somali History, Somali Language and Law.

In terms of industry, I would invest in small-scale manufacturing plants as well as setting up import tariffs and subsidisation. The companies doing badly would receive the most investment and subsidisation as well as constant monitoring reports on progress and areas which need improvement. The agriculture and fishing industries would be developed and the pastoralist camel-herders will be forced to set-up fixed farms with irrigation and support from the agri/fishing dept via tractors, farming tools, expertise from technical colleges etc. Fishing is easier since all that is needed are large trawlers, and storage facilities. For meat and poultry, there are already a few abattoirs existing but we need processing and packaging plants which would earn a lot more since all we do is ship lifestock at the moment.

There are other important stuff like energy, infrastructure and port-building but I frankly can't be bothered writing anymore atm.

[CilmiDoone]

As if we're trying to build a motorway of the "Caalami" Standard,
We are attempting a simple 2 way asphalt road of 300km length
between Ina Afmadoobe and Ceerigaabo.
It must seem an impossible feat to your kind but we believe it's possible

Mida kale Maxaa kaa galey Sanaag and its developmen,I remember you
making quite a fuss about the Maydh Port and now you make this fuss over
the Burco-Ceerigaabo road....why get your knickersin a twist over somewhere
that doesn't belong to you?

Why are you so defensive to constructive criticism?

So if, as you say, the cost of building a metre of road is $100, then why are the main roads of Hargeisa not asphalted?... considering that at its widest the city is only a few KM from one end to the other.

After all, building 5KM of road should only cost $500,000. So if the government built only 5KM of road a year for 20 years all of Hargeisa's main roads would have been asphalted, at a mere cost of $500,000 per road. I remember watching a video in which a Somaliland government official stated that the cost of constructing one square metre of road is, in fact, $20. Which would make 1Lx7W metres of road $140 and a KM of road $140,000. If the cost of constructing road is indeed that cheap to them, then it is an indictment of their management of public finances that they have not been able to build more roads.

[hargaysaay]

Bro CilmiDone all Abdikarim is Saying is Why are you questioning how I am building my small shitty roads while your Killing your own people .
Sland officials are corrupted just like any other 3rd world African Country , but they neither Kill nor Pillage their people for 20+ years , so the
whole "You telling him what to do" thing sort off comes across as offensive to Slanders . They are thinking to themselves why a man holding a gun to
his brothers head is telling us what kinda road we should build for our people .

[CilmiDoone]

Bro CilmiDone all Abdikarim is Saying is Why are you questioning how I am building my small shitty roads while your Killing your own people .
Sland officials are corrupted just like any other 3rd world African Country , but they neither Kill nor Pillage their people for 20+ years , so the
whole "You telling him what to do" thing sort off comes across as offensive to Slanders . They are thinking to themselves why a man holding a gun to
his brothers head is telling us what kinda road we should build for our people .

Aar bal waalidan eega. What people?...and what gun? what on earth are you talking about I aint killing nobody breh

Now what these fictitious stories have to do with the topic at hand, or my comments on the topic at hand, I do not know Back to the topic: do you think building this road is an efficient use of resources, when there are better, alternative courses of action?

[hargaysaay]

oh so you are a Lander , sorry i apologize , I hope you are Ictiraf Flu free , if you are infected I have a Vaccine just stick with me .

[CilmiDoone]

Agaciro Development Fund collections at over $30m)



Novemeber 14 2013

Over Rwf20.2b has been collected by the Agaciro Development Fund (AgDF) as of November 12, the fund managers revealed in a statement yesterday.

The initiative, which was launched in August last year, is Rwanda’s first sovereign fund based on voluntary donations by Rwandans of different walks of life and corporate companies. It is aimed at making Rwanda self-reliant as far as funding development initiatives is concerned.

“The Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning would like to thank Rwandans and friends for their generous contributions to the Agaciro Development Fund. Your contributions to the fund have so far grown to a total of Rwf20,237,733,062,” the ministry said in statement posted on Twitter yesterday.

It added that plans were in progress to invest the money in projects that contribute greatly to the development of the country. In September, the fund was at over Rwf19.7b.

http://www.newtimes.co.rw/news/index.ph ... 41&a=72084

[CilmiDoone]

oh so you are a Lander, sorry i apologize , I hope you are Ictiraf Flu free , if you are infected I have a Vaccine just stick with me .

That is very presumptuous of you. Let's just say that I am a stakeholder of all parts of the Somali peninsula.

[gurey25]

@ 1$ million for road construction?
are we building first world class roads here?

the average cost of the roads built in ethiopia and eritrea and Sudan is $350,000 - $500,000 per KM.
and these are high class top end roads.

You can get a basic asphalt road for $100,000 Km it been done before you just need it to meet basic needs.

[X.Playa]

100k/km? I fail to see the expences. 1km is 1000 steps and the basic martials are tar and sand?

[gurey25]

buying the asphalt and transporting it to where you need is expensive.
the equipment for paving is also expensive and the fuel to run the equipment.

an unpaved macamadized road would be ideal for somaliland, all you need is earth, rocks and lots of manpower.
we have tens of thousands chewing qat, a 300 km macadamized road would cost only labor 5000 men working 12 hour shifts could get it done in under a month and you would probably pay just $3 milion or less.

The problem is maintenance, an asphalt paved road will need maintenance every 5 years, while your unpaved macadamized road will need to be mainatined every couple of months.
but since we have massive unemployment, whats wrong with thousands of men earning a clean living through hard labour?
you built it for $3 million, why not maintain it for $500,000 every year?
i think it is justified.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macadam

[X.Playa]

Iam still puzzled how transporting tar and sand over 1000 steps will cost that much. The somaliland goverment has a lot of diggers,loaders ,mixers and compressors and cheap labour. Apart from buying tar and oil I dont see all the expenses.

[gurey25]

asphalt is expensive shit, ranges from $75 to $130 a tonne.
and you need 1000 tonnes for a high grade road, you might get away with about half
im not an engineer, these are educated guesses and what i dug up on the internet.

so lets say you use half of that 500 tonnes per KM, at $130 it will cost you $20 million just for the asphalt.

not to mention the other costs of surverying, clearing the ground.

[X.Playa]

500 ton per 1km are you kidding me!

[gurey25]

its crazy isnt it..
but once you get your oil refinery set up you can get all you want as a waste product.