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Re: Celebrating failure?

Postby HusseinHassan » Sun May 18, 2014 7:26 pm

ximaanjaalle, relax man. you're stressed up.
go to a somaliland may 18 party in your city tonight, pick up a chick or two...and have a good time. :lol:

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Re: Celebrating failure?

Postby XimanJaale » Sun May 18, 2014 7:29 pm

ximaanjaalle, relax man. you're stressed up.
go to a somaliland may 18 party in your city tonight, pick up a chick or two...and have a good time. :lol:
There is no 18 May parties in Xamar, and it will stay like that forever. :som:

Besides, why party with a ideology I'am against?

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Re: Celebrating failure?

Postby HusseinHassan » Sun May 18, 2014 7:32 pm

ximaanjaalle, relax man. you're stressed up.
go to a somaliland may 18 party in your city tonight, pick up a chick or two...and have a good time. :lol:
There is no 18 May parties in Xamar, and it will stay like that forever. :som:
well that explains it all. stress level 50,000 :lol:

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Re: Celebrating failure?

Postby Methylamine » Sun May 18, 2014 7:33 pm

Here comes the personal attacks when they lose the debates! Go chew your khat it is not like you guys listen to anything. :up:
Now why would I want to lose my precious brain cells discussing matters with vermin like you?

This thread was made to highlight issues about Somaliland and ways to improve development. You come here in ranting your anti-Isaaq nonsense under the guise of unity, and you expect us to debate you? :lol: No one supports you, hell even your own kin on this website have distanced themselves from you, because they know what an lowlife piece of shit you really are. You have severe issues with Isaaq people, you try your very best to discredit a group of people trying to improve themselves, and now you're latest trick is that if we all unite things will be better. Give me a f-king break, if people like you never existed on this planet, Somalia would be a decent place to live.

I pity your existence

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Re: Celebrating failure?

Postby XimanJaale » Sun May 18, 2014 7:40 pm

Here comes more of the personal attacks. You have a mentality of a school girl, kulaha your own clansmen distant form you. And why the fuck do I care about my clansmen? Do I live for them? Bal anaga wax aragnay.

Wallahi I said this hundreds of time, I have no envy or resentment towards your clan. I see them nothing but confused people and I actually pity them. Nobody can debate with you guys because whenever Somaliland is mentioned by a non-Isaaq you guys all geting a itchy ass. This clearly proves that Somaliland is nothing but a tribal Isaaq state.

Also I did debate unity, but I also debated internal unity amongst people in Somaliland. I advocated unity between people Somaliland whilst refraining from the secessionist ideology in order to pursue great developments.

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Re: Celebrating failure?

Postby Xildiiid » Sun May 18, 2014 7:45 pm

Somaliland is a sovereign nation that existed when your Somalia was still occupied by Italians. It's not a tribal state, far from it and its not secession, we're simply dissolving the illegal union.


The persecution and summary executions started in 1979. The first to fall victim were Isaaq soldiers that returned from the battle fronts in Ethiopia. My own uncle served time in prison, his only crime being that he was Isaaq but he was lucky not to be murdered and his body dumped in an unmarked grave. From 1980-1989 the Afweyne regime indiscriminately murdered Isaaq men, women and children. In 1988 during the aerial bombardments its estimated that 50.000 Isaaq civilians died while more than 500.000 Isaaq fled from Hargeysa to Ethiopia. Unlike Afweyne, Mengistu didn't destroy Eritrean cities because he was more of a nationalist. He was fighting rebels not his own people on the contrary Afweyne was fighting Isaaq using the military might of the Somali republic. If he was fighting SNM, he would vacate the towns and transport Isaaq civilians from the cities just like he did with the non Isaaq.

There are reports from HRW proving that the SNM didn't attack non Isaaq civilians and that they even prohibited Isaaq civilians to take revenge. If SNM was out for revenge they wouldn't have called for the Burco and Borama peace conferences in which Somaliland was re-created.

Somaliland was re-created because of the mistakes our granfathers made in the 60's. The lack of political representation and economic inequality is the main reasons. Two countries uniting should split everything equally but we (Somaliland) got 32 MP's while Somalia got 127 MP's in the parliament. You got the President, Prime minister, Speaker of parliament and we got 2 ministers only in that government. In other words Somalia annexed Somaliland.



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You're a Dofaar Ismaciil, doofaarkuna abidkii ma daahiro. I don't expect you or your kind to stop the two faced nationalism because you will always be a munaafaq and frankly no one gives a fuck about what you think about Somaliland. I just felt like disproving your nonsense.

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Re: Celebrating failure?

Postby Methylamine » Sun May 18, 2014 7:50 pm

Here comes more of the personal attacks. You have a mentality of a school girl, kulaha your own clansmen distant form you. And why the fuck do I care about my clansmen? Do I live for them? Bal anaga wax aragnay.

Wallahi I said this hundreds of time, I have no envy or resentment towards your clan. I see them nothing but confused people and I actually pity them. Nobody can debate with you guys because whenever Somaliland is mentioned by a non-Isaaq you guys all geting a itchy ass. This clearly proves that Somaliland is nothing but a tribal Isaaq state.

Also I did debate unity, but I also debated internal unity amongst people in Somaliland. I advocated unity between people Somaliland whilst refraining from the secessionist ideology in order to pursue great developments.
If you were sincere about unity, you wouldn't go around bashing other clans or discrediting their achievements, but your inbred mind does not register such rational thinking.

Anyway, continue flooding the forums with anti-Somaliland nonsense, continue to bash other tribes and celebrate at others' shortcomings. You're dismissed :lol:

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Re: Celebrating failure?

Postby Octavius » Sun May 18, 2014 7:51 pm

I cannot party ...when we live in a stone-age nation.
More poignant words have never been spoken.

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Re: Celebrating failure?

Postby XimanJaale » Sun May 18, 2014 7:56 pm

If you were sincere about unity, you wouldn't go around bashing other clans or discrediting their achievements, but your inbred mind does not register such rational thinking.

Anyway, continue flooding the forums with anti-Somaliland nonsense, continue to bash other tribes and celebrate at others' shortcomings. You're dismissed :lol:
War I called all of Somalia a shithole including my on tribal regions!!

MashaAllah Somaliland has some peace and some kind of administration but they are no different to other tribal states in Somalia like Puntland, Galmudug, Ximan and Xeeb etc.

Just because I cristise Somaliland does not mean I'am discrediting the achievement of the people over there. But my whole arguments against Somaliland is solely for my own ideology which is a united Somalia. Because I believe a unity amongst all Somalis will be the cure for our people and hopefully unity will be what improves the living condition of our country, because frankly ALL of Somalia is a shithole today.

Yes, I will continue with the anti-Somaliland because it is a ideology I'am against. But in no way have I insulted any clans today. Tell me where I have insulted Isaaq on this thread? Unless you believe Somaliland=Isaaq? (though I didn't even insult Somaliland, apart from calling it a shithole, then it is really not a insult because I called ALL of Somalia a shithole).

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Re: Celebrating failure?

Postby Methylamine » Sun May 18, 2014 7:58 pm

:lol: Never thought I'd do this but,
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Re: Celebrating failure?

Postby Xildiiid » Sun May 18, 2014 7:59 pm

How can Somaliland be a tribal state within Somalia when Somaliland existed as a nation before Somalia even became a sovereign country?

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Re: Celebrating failure?

Postby XimanJaale » Sun May 18, 2014 8:00 pm

As usual they cannot debate like a decent intellectual human-beings so they resort to insults, personal attacks or pathetic actions like above. No wonder Somalis are doomed and trekking dangerous seas. :down:

What a failed people
How can Somaliland be a tribal state within Somalia when Somaliland existed as a nation before Somalia even became a sovereign country?
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Jubbaland was separate from rest of Somalia during colonisation does that mean it was a nation before? No it wasn't it was a region colonised by the British and then handed over to the Italians. I will not call the divide and conquer antics of the colonisers as a nation.

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Re: Celebrating failure?

Postby Xildiiid » Sun May 18, 2014 8:16 pm

Jubbaland was part of British East Africa and if it wasn't purchased by the Italians, it would've been part of Kenya just like NFD is part of Kenya, it wouldn't have been a sovereign nation like Somaliland.



Somaliland is not a tribal state, disprove my statement and disprove my previous posts as well.

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Re: Celebrating failure?

Postby XimanJaale » Sun May 18, 2014 8:26 pm

Jubbaland was part of British East Africa and if it wasn't purchased by the Italians, it would've been part of Kenya just like NFD is part of Kenya, it wouldn't have been a sovereign nation like Somaliland.

Somaliland is not a tribal state, disprove my statement and disprove my previous posts as well.
Firstly Somalia was a sovereign state before Somaliland. We under UN trusteeship and govern ourselves for 10 years. Whereas Somaliland was being governed by the British all the way since 26th June.

Jubbaland during colonisation was similar to Somaliland during colonisation. But you don't hear people in Jubbaland wanting to secede because of the old colonial borders. So Somaliland have no rights of abiding with colonial borders. I have seen African nations rejecting colonial borders, but you guys are the first people advocating and supporting the colonial borders and this really pathetic.

Yes Somaliland is a tribal state, it is a Isaaq project (SNM) nothing more nothing less. Lets not act innocent, we are Somalis we know each other very well. I'am not the UN whom you can fool.

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Re: Celebrating failure?

Postby metamorphosis » Sun May 18, 2014 8:34 pm

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