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Adal Dynasty (Walashma?)

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Re: Adal Dynasty (Walashma?)

Postby Caesar » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:29 pm

I agree :lol: the shegaatonimo needs to end in #2014 Inshallah, it started with "ogadeen built jigjiga" to "ogadeen ran and controlled the awdal empire" in between was " Ahmed Gurey was a Proud Marehan man" :dead: all have been refuted.

though i like how self designated monarchies in the north and west
are usually the greatest people in the north lol

reer ugaas a blessed people :rose:

kings be on top chiling from walashama and beyond

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Re: Adal Dynasty (Walashma?)

Postby StormShadow » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:40 pm

I don't carewho Walaasha iyo Adal was but, care to tell me who are this Wardiiq you keep repeating? I heard they shekhaal?

Sophi,Gadabursi is full of sheegats, samaaroon name was made to fit all those sheegato. :lol:

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Re: Adal Dynasty (Walashma?)

Postby X.Playa » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:55 pm

This kid J.Ceaser is a nut case , he cant even comprehend what he is quoting, in that quote it says the first rulers of Shoa were from Bani Makhzum ( a sub branch of Quraysh in particular the sub clan of Khaalid ibn Waliid) , now the paper also says that these were overthrown by the Walashma a supposedly decendants of Yuusuf Al-Kawaynayn another Qurayshi Sharif a decendant of Xasan Ibnu Cali Dalib. Now where is this Dir in this history??? Now as far as the reer Wardiiq , these guys are a decendant of a Habar Jeclo missionary mullah who lived among the Ciise and even the Ciise don't regard them as native ciise but as originally Isaaq, so there is no Dir history anywhere in your post.
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Re: Adal Dynasty (Walashma?)

Postby StormShadow » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:57 pm

So wardiiq are not Ciise but Isaaq? and what about those who say they were shekhaash culumaa?

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Re: Adal Dynasty (Walashma?)

Postby X.Playa » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:59 pm

Both versions traditionally exist.

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Re: Adal Dynasty (Walashma?)

Postby StormShadow » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:20 pm

So whatever they're waa iska sheegat ciise?

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Re: Adal Dynasty (Walashma?)

Postby X.Playa » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:23 pm

they are not sheegato in that sense, they are not saying they are decendants of Ciise and denying who they are , what they say is simply they have lived with the Ciise so long that they are basically Ciise, in politics and clan war and payments. Eeven in the Ciise geanology they recoginze all the clans that have joined them but not of them, both Wardiiq and Xarle Koombe are among the later.

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Re: Adal Dynasty (Walashma?)

Postby gurey25 » Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:56 pm

Is xarla koombe koombe or the mythical xarla founders of harar

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Re: Adal Dynasty (Walashma?)

Postby X.Playa » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:06 pm

Xarle Koombe same as those in Harar who are in the Futuux Al Xabasha. They are adopted today within the Ciise clan , some Daarood extremist take the similar name Koombe and claim they are Daarood , but they are not even Somalis.

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Re: Adal Dynasty (Walashma?)

Postby Caesar » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:16 pm

This kid J.Ceaser is a nut case , he cant even comprehend what he is quoting, in that quote it says the first rulers of Shoa were from Bani Makhzum ( a sub branch of Quraysh in particular the sub clan of Khaalid ibn Waliid) , now the paper also says that these were overthrown by the Walashma a supposedly decendants of Yuusuf Al-Kawaynayn another Qurayshi Sharif a decendant of Xasan Ibnu Cali Dalib. Now where is this Dir in this history??? Now as far as the reer Wardiiq , these guys are a decendant of a Habar Jeclo missionary mullah who lived among the Ciise and even the Ciise don't regard them as native ciise but as originally Isaaq, so there is no Dir history anywhere in your post.

habar jeclo? this snet lie from 1999? nigga no one outside snet has ever heard of that, and i aint no bucur bacayr kid or habar balayahow

the funny thing is

yusuf al kownayn and shiekh isaaq were alive at the same time :lol:

it is impossible for him to be a descendant of a guy whose standing right next to him

secondly yusuf al kownayn was wardiiq from zaylac, the isaaq+idoor confderacy didn't even come to be until hundreds of years later or whenever that happened


moving on, the source shows the walashma dynasty and yusuf al kownayn are related henceforth the walashma dynasty=wardiiq as somali oral tradition dictates, and it also proves walashma were never ogadeen as somali oral history dictates, tough luck ogs and isaaqs

a paper source is for you gaalo lovers and post 1970 siad bare revisionists.

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Re: Adal Dynasty (Walashma?)

Postby X.Playa » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:53 pm

does this guy make any sense , I fail to follow his argument. when yusuf al kwaynayn is an Arab by all accounts and the Walashma are supposedly his descendants where this Dir come into the picture? I gave up.

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Re: Adal Dynasty (Walashma?)

Postby Caesar » Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:38 pm

what accounts? im lewis and his lies?

or the somali oral zaylac tradition indicating he is a dir

either way the source i provided showed he was a "native" and even contrasted the indeginious somalis with those arabs we kicked out

he was dir end of story, if i say somali would u feel better? loool

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Re: Adal Dynasty (Walashma?)

Postby LiquidHYDROGEN » Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:55 pm

does this guy make any sense , I fail to follow his argument. when yusuf al kwaynayn is an Arab by all accounts and the Walashma are supposedly his descendants where this Dir come into the picture? I gave up.
He thinks everything is Dir.

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Re: Adal Dynasty (Walashma?)

Postby Caesar » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:03 pm

read the above statements i made :lol: proof is in the pudding

snet isku xaar ur lies have been refuted again.

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Re: Adal Dynasty (Walashma?)

Postby StormShadow » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:09 pm

Doncorleone waa gabar waalan.


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