Bahir Yeshaq (Bali-Isaaq) in the making In Hawassa

[Hawdian]

I'm glad Khalid agrees that placing 15,000 Isaac under the scheme is not the way forward otherwise we would have ended up with the likes of Skywalker. You have to understand Isaac too has its share of small thinkers. Skywalker is someone who spends his daily debates arguing with BoholKing about east and west Burco.

Someone that thinks that small and is unable to see beyond the one street city cannot comprehend things such as Hawassa. Thus selective progress is key. The right minds going through the system is must. Life is about adoption and evolving. People who can let go often make the transition much more smooth.

This kind of ideas is not for someone who can't agree on east and west of a town.

The idea that Ethiopia is a nation of 90mn and few can't break it thru is myth. It just shows that person's lack of self esteem and self confidence. Few Jews have been always making it to the top in every large society including the US.

Ethiopia is our promised land fellow Yeshaq and the germination of few successful genes is key...not all Isaac carry such DNA. The weak will be left behind.

As for religion, Ethiopia has more Muslims than Wanlawein. Ethiopia was the first African nation to embrace Islam.

Example of a mosque in Bahir Dar,






Ras

[Caesar]

Chill somalis accepted Islam before any habesha, if "habesha" had islam first why are they mostly christian? and begging the portugese for arms lol

I do have some theories about that "habesha" king but Ill wait till I get all the evidence and make a proper thread. so ill save that for later
Remember they were against Ahmed Gurey not for him. Islam in Africa started from zayla then to harar etc.

We pushed them into the mountains don't forget.

if somalis learn how to reverse desertification they wouldn't need to expand ever. but pipe dreams i wish you all success in your ethio expansion

[Hawdian]

Caesar the problem with you is that you love to argue without having any clue what you talking about. The time the Abyssinian King requested Portugal's assistance was in the 14th century.

Islam arrived in Axum in the 6th century. This journey is the journey that we all celebrate during cumra and we take the migration path of our Sahaba. This is also the beginning of our calendar (Hijra). You are comparing apples with oranges when you can't even differentiate the history in 6th century from that of 14th century.

Equally during the 14th century clashes, many of Ahmed Gurey's army included Habesha Muslims and other races. It was not a Somali national party as Somalis claim. It was Muslim vs Christians. Many times same ethnic had different people on different sides.

In the 6th century Axum was ruled by Aṣḥama ibn Abjar (Geez: Ella-Seham) and it was he who took in the Muslim asylum seekers. Himself he later converted and built Africa's first mosque in Negash village in Tigray.

Equally, outside of Makkah, Medina, and Jerusalem the fourth holiest Muslim site is hosted by Ethiopia (Harrar).

Before you come here with this childish argument you need to pick up some books and simply learn how to use Google.


Ras

[Khalid Ali]

This is not an Islam topic Ethiopia has Muslims majority Muslims
and there is nothing wrong with christans don't we live in the west with them

Hawdian u are right not every one should be privileged to live bahir yeshaq or Bali isaq

Only selective group poor countries are coming up a friend of mine set up textile company in Bangladesh
There is nothing stopping people working together . horu usocod no dibu so cod

[Typhoon]

this is near abroad, any somali who has plans for these regions will meet Safta beesha barakeysan
we spend blood and treasure on these regions from the middle ages and as late as the negele wars

Sidaamo----Ila----kismaayo rag ba isha ku haya saxib

warya emperiour waqtigi jecelka ku qaban jiray ma lagaray oo af hunnadi ku hadli jirtay ( ee huuno wadnaha ii dag leh)
habar awal ku orneysa waan duulay.lol.., bal ka waran... aduunyo ku nacday

habar awalka arapka bay iska celin karin markaas bay ku dihi waan duulayna duul ba balaarsanayna..loool....

hadal aan wax tar lahayn habar awal ba leh


itaas wa kaftan emperiour wan la socda waqtigi uunsiga ba la qaray....anywayz long time
idoorka lama kaftamin these days, its my idoor season have your guns ready boys

kii ilkaha casa ee habar jeclo skywalker aka general duuflo horta halkee bu ka baxay, awoowaga ilka casa e budha watay la jannee

holocoast memorial season ba la garay wa la is buufiniya boys and girls

Herr Eaglehawk the pre-eminent scholar on daqan xumada idoor wagaashe

[Gabre]

There's a funny word in Amharic that's escaping me right now. Basically it means the kind of mental sickness that grips one when he overdoses on khat.

[Khalid Ali]

this is near abroad, any somae ages and as late as the negele wars

Sidaamo----Ila----kismaayo rag ba isha ku haya saxib

warya emperiour waqtigi jecelka ku qaban jiray ma lagaray oo af hunnadi ku hadli jirtay ( ee huuno wadnaha ii dag leh)
habar awal ku orneysa waan duulay.lol.., bal ka waran... aduunyo ku nacday

habar awalka arapka bay iska celin karin markaas bay ku dihi waan duulayna duul ba balaarsanayna..loool....

hadal aan wax tar lahayn habar awal ba leh


itaas wa kaftan emperiour wan la socda waqtigi uunsiga ba la qaray....anywayz long time
idoorka lama kaftamin these days, its my idoor season have your guns ready boys

kii ilkaha casa ee habar jeclo skywalker aka general duuflo horta halkee bu ka baxay, awoowaga ilka casa e budha watay la jannee

holocoast memorial season ba la garay wa la is buufiniya boys and girls

Herr Eaglehawk the pre-eminent scholar on daqan xumada idoor wagaashe

Gah gah gah gah welcome back Typhoon sideed tahay long time no see halkeed ka dhacday ma Jamacad garmal ah baad tagtay. Sidad is leedahay afsomali ku hadal baad wali ka agnaan tahay , war afsomaliga sii fiican u so baro. Marexaanka madaxweyne kuxigeenki Kismayo na walaga qaaday Ogaden so tahriibay ba soo jiidhay waxay jubeeyaan baa .Anigu iidoorka Hawasa agteeda baan magaala ugu dhisaya la yidha Baliga isaaq , Marexaanku Dawlada Amisom hala qaxweeyaan , Kabadhe iidoor meel uusan tegin ba jira from seaman to england to the US , waxad ku arkaysa kabadhe in the amazon. Ila iyo Isiolo. Midida dahabka na waxa u hayaa Habar awal.

[lasanodboi]

I will be more than happy to see Issaq take land from Ethiopians but will it not be a good idea to liberate more than one million Issaq occupied in Somali gabled as a beginning ?

[LobsterUnit]

Khalid trying to sound like hadwian.lol.

[Khalid Ali]

Hawdian is my cousin we have many shared ideas Meelo fara badan ku heshiis ma nihin, i support him to Join Ethiopian politics.


For Hawdian Mameeye itoobiya

[Khalid Ali]

I will be more than happy to see Issaq take land from Ethiopians but will it not be a good idea to liberate more than one million Issaq occupied in Somali gabled as a beginning ?

We dont need to declare secession well atleast not now, there is no need hada. What we need as isaaq is recreate the hawd and hararghe province as one region. It will empower isaaq we will outnumber all the other clans oromada ciisaha. Somaliland needs to be stronger and more prosperous. When we find the need to unite Somaliland and hawd we will do, but there are other priorities for the time being.

[Hawdian]

Hawd does not have a million people no more than 200,000, 40-50,000 camels, roughly 5,000 barkado and few small towns. Not much. It's not worth "liberation". There are more to gain by being part of Ethiopia.

Haud was only a grassing land that Isaac nomads moved into during raining seasons. Today that lifestyle is coming to an end as more people settle in urban towns.


You have to think long term. I have a different approach and the likes of Khalid understand how the modern world works.

Taking one digag is not necessarily a good thing. If you can get your digaag with the neighbors diiq, maybe you will end up with two eggs.

[Caesar]

Caesar the problem with you is that you love to argue without having any clue what you talking about. The time the Abyssinian King requested Portugal's assistance was in the 14th century.

Islam arrived in Axum in the 6th century. This journey is the journey that we all celebrate during cumra and we take the migration path of our Sahaba. This is also the beginning of our calendar (Hijra). You are comparing apples with oranges when you can't even differentiate the history in 6th century from that of 14th century.

Equally during the 14th century clashes, many of Ahmed Gurey's army included Habesha Muslims and other races. It was not a Somali national party as Somalis claim. It was Muslim vs Christians. Many times same ethnic had different people on different sides.

In the 6th century Axum was ruled by Aṣḥama ibn Abjar (Geez: Ella-Seham) and it was he who took in the Muslim asylum seekers. Himself he later converted and built Africa's first mosque in Negash village in Tigray.

Equally, outside of Makkah, Medina, and Jerusalem the fourth holiest Muslim site is hosted by Ethiopia (Harrar).

Before you come here with this childish argument you need to pick up some books and simply learn how to use Google.


Ras

Everything I said was facts. You trying to belittle my facts is really just childish. The truth is the truth.

Your beloved Ethiopians beg the Ferengi every time A somali karbashes them.
From the wars of Awdal and Akusm up to the 1977 of Somalia vs Ethiopia war.
Consistent Ferengi begging occurs.

Hawdian the problem is you , you make claims thinking you won't be caught
you will be caught every time.

Harar is historically linked with Zaylac or have you forgotten? Zaylac received Islam first and sent it to Harar. Or have you forgotten our Jihad against the Gaal Habashis?

To this day there are neighborhoods in Harar named after my people. You should do your best to learn the history of galbeed better instead of boot licking the Christians.

But how can I forget this is the guy who said DNA is a "weak argument" when shown the facts.

[Caesar]

It's not an expansion kids. It's a different approach. It's called germination. It's beyond the average Somali geeljire. You do not need to go through lands of Somalis and Shinile is pretty desert. Nothing grows there.

The best land is Oromia (including Sidamo), Amhara (Gojjam and western Shoa), Gambella, southern nations (Omo valley) and Beninshangul-Gumuz.

Shinile is just like Afar and is pretty much like Togdheer if not worse.

Shinile Afar? Your facts are a bit outdated Hawdian, Hardly any afar reside in Shinile.


Also Shinile and Djibouti are making water deals. Don't hate, emulate.

Djibouti is developing her sister lands, while you all try and develop the land of foreigners. Why don't somalilanders put this effort into Eastern Somaliland?

[Hawdian]

Caesar,

You're none sense kid. Please read little bit more and think outside the box. Zeila in 14th century is not the same Zeila Haji Sharmarke bombarded with Turkish artillery in the late 18th century nor is Zeila the same today. It became irrelevant town after Sharmarke.


And Islam did not enter Harrar from Zeila. Harrar was an Islamic center as far back as the 10th and 11th century. During Ahmed Gurey's 14th century Adalite Kingdom, Harrar was not an occupied town but part of the Kingdom same way Burao and Hargeisa are part of SL.

There were no Habesha in Harrar until 1885 when Ras Makonnen occupied the city. Adaris are not Habesha people. The Habesha are the Amhara, Irob, Tigre, Tigrai, Kebessa, Beja, Me'en, Bilen and Gurage.

Like I said read little bit more.