The modernization of Oodweyne town.

[HooBariiska]

i was testing you, whats your previous nick?

i am isaxaaq carre, my abtiyaal are ugaadh cumar, reer warmooge

[SayyidUmar]

I am new, just looked at old posts you seem to talk about hargeisa and isxaaq.kkk
reer warmooge are reer sugulle.kkk. reer warmooge settled with reer sugulle in daba-gorayaale, gocan-dhaale, reybad khaatumo, lan mulxaao ilaa hawd iyo doobo-guduud wa tuulo reer sugule ilaa moholin.
reer war-mooge pay dia or maag with the bah-makahill sub-clan or reer sugulle. they have nothing in common with rest of the ugaadh cumer such as the ugaadh umar ee reer saalax iyo haruun, iyo yusuf. I know the entire reer warmooge by hand.kkk

[SayyidUmar]

What are after Isxaaq?

[samatar133]

SayidCusmar

maxaad tidhi oodweyne ayaa Hargeysa iyo Burco subsidize garaysa!
Walee waatan ruwaayadii oo cageheega ku sucataa.

Qodobo dhawr ah oo intaba, aniga fikirkayga, aad si khaldan u sharaxday ayaan arkaa, laakiin marka kobaad aan ka qanciyo qodobka ugu muhiimsan qodabada aad ka hadashay, kaas oo ah qaab cashuureedka xoolaha nool ee Somaliland.

Inta aan ka ogahay, dawlada dhexe waxay xoolaha nool si toos ah u cashuurtaa kaliya marka ay ka dhoofayaan Berbera. Meelaha kale sida sayladaha iyo maxjarada Burco iyo Hargeisa waxa cashuurta qaada dowladaha hoose ee magaalooyinkaasi leeyihiin. Ma hubo in magaalooyinka ay sayladuhu ku yaalaan saami u jaraan dawlada dhexe iyo inay dhamaan cashuurta iyagu jeebka ku shubtaan. Laakiin waa arin si dhib yar aan u hubin karo.
Sanadkii hore mar uu London noogu yami xilaabaan golaha deegaanka Burco laga doortay oo la yidhaa Mubaarak Bidhi, waxaan weydiiyay lacagta soo gasha dawlada hoose ee Burco intay leegtahay. Wuxuu ii sheegay inay tahay inta u dhaxaysa 120,000 dollar ilaa 150,000 dollar bishii kasta, tiyoo ay ku xidhan tahay hadba bisha iyo xilaga lagu jiro. Wuxuu sidoo kale iigu daray in lacagtaa badankeedu ka soo xarooto cashuurta xoolaha nool ee saylada Burco. Taa micneheegu waa inay xoolaha nooli ay ahmiyad gaara u leeyihiin Burco.

Su'aasha muhiimka ahi waxay tahay, ma dawlada Somaliland ayaa Burcana ka dhigtay Saylada xoolaha ee ugu weyn geeska afrika, Oodweynana ka hortaagan oo u diidan in saylad ama maxjar laga furo?
jawaabta su'aashaas oo fudidi waa maya, Burcona ganacsata iyo shacabkaa ayaa xoolahooga keensaday si looga iibsado saylada halkaas ku taal, Oodweynena la soo garab maray. Hadii barito nin ganacsade ahi uu oodweyne maxjar ka furto oo ay noqoto suuq ganacsiga xoolaha ah, cid u diidaysaa ma jirto. Hadii dawlada hoose ee Oodweyne damacdo in ay cashoorta ka qaado maxjarka ama saylada cid hor istaagi kartaa ma jirto.
Laakiin meel aan saylad, suuq xoolo iyo maxjar midina ku oolin sida ay cashuur u qaadi karto adiga ayaa nooga warami doona?

Dawladu kumay khasbin in Ina Afdiinle uu qaadkiisa ka soo galiyo xuduuda dhinaca Gabiley. Isaga ayaa danno ganacsi oo u gaar ah sidaas u doortay.
Hadii uu barito uu damco inuu soo mariyo qaadka dhinacaa iyo Salaxlay cid u diidaysaa ma jirto. Cashuurtana waxa lagaga qaadayaa hadba degmada uu xadka ka soo galo.

Sxb, ariku waa caynkaase sidaa ula soco.

[SayyidUmar]

what have you refuted? what is your point? what have you proofed me wrong? nothing.

Will yar oo habar jeclo oo hebel Bidhi who was elected 2 years does not know nothing about the livestock market in Burao or Hargeisa. The livestock market is located in the Habar yoonis section of Burao near xaafada lafoole. Likewise, so is the Hargeisa livestock its located in xaafada sayalada in Qudac dheer.

But, I am not dismissing you argument cuz qabil, but by the rational that 'I asked hebel xildibaan'.

Fact:
-Hargeisa and Burco collect tax revenue from sayala livestock markets. 80% of livetock sold in Hargeisa livestock is from Oodweyne region. 70% of livetock sold in Burco livestock market is from Oodweyne.

-95% of exports from Berbera is livestock. Livestock directly/indirectly from Oodweyne accounts for 80% of total export. Now a country wealth is generally collected to what they export.

90% of somaliland tax revenue comes from livestock, and that is from Oodweyne region.

[Hawdian]

Sayyid,

You seem like a wise guy but you have been fed with a lot of lies and fabricated stories. SL does not tax herders.

I said years ago that Oodweyne has no future unless oil was discovered and the town re-named itself Oilweyne

You see the folks in the West (reer Galbeedka) siiba Sacad Muse, they are clever enough not to create mini-tuulo in every 10-km. In the case of HY regions, there is some silly two men village in every 5-10km; Bali bakele, kamp danyer, tulo digirin, etc.

There are too many villages sxb and the community in Oodweyne and Sabawanaag need to re-organize themselves and abolish unnecessary villages and populate one main town together in every 30-40km.

In the west its mainly Gabiley, Arabsiyo and Wajale...not much in between. Very very few. Now look at the case of this region and try to count how many villages are between Sabawanaag and Oodweyne for instance. I believe its not less than 100.

Sacad Muse built their Gabiley. Congrats.
Arab built their Baligubadle. Congrats.
Cidagale built their Salaxley. Congrats.
Now HY should re-organize Oodweyne first then kick start projects. No point waiting for a government if you lack the foundation and unity. Gov only goes to people who have leadership and can pool their vote in one direction. HY folks are all over the place, too many silly villages, too many diiq in the digaag (too many roosters), too much emotions, too much focus on qabyalad...etc

Baligubadle







Don't look at Hirsi. He did not put a dime in this. He just went there to show up when the locals finished their project. You know how the Gov is. They seek photo opportunities. If you built barkad in Haradiged they will show up like cumade baqti helay.

All in all, dadka kale wa lagu dayda wa loo farxa wa loo hambalyeeya lama dhaho this and that ba loo sameyeey. Adigu sameyso instead of putting your energy on what others have.


Ras

[SayyidUmar]

Egaal took Berbera the second biggest earner next to livestock away from waqooyi galbeed in 1996. which was disaster for Hargeisa, hargeisa local govt. could'nt pay their workers, askari, ciisbitaalka guud ee Hargeisa had no nurses they simply werent paid.

Egaal made Xeerka laba iyo toban (articale 12) of the caashuur (taxation) allowing Hargeisa and Burco to collect livestock from Oodweyne region.

There was a livetstock, in the early 1990's in Oodweyne, it was closed by Ina Egaal. He made the delaals and buyers and sellers move to Hargeisa and Burco.

when Oodweyne complaint to central government, they told to make a formal request to hargeisa and Burco district councils. The Ciidagale mayor Jicir and the reer Abdi Xirsi mayor of Burco both refused.

[SayyidUmar]

Sayyid,
SL does not tax herders.

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Nacas, saylada Hargeisa takes $1 on sheeps and goats and $10 on camels.
Then in Berbera $5 to Maxjarka Al Jaberi (The yemani) and or $6 for Maxjarka Indha-dheero.

Thats money from Oodweyne region saaxib, millions and millions of livetsock.

The sacad musa you praise brings salt from djbouti and tooth stick from guban. there they dirt poor. for get the several families who own double storey buildings.

livestock is my business.

[Hawdian]

Egal himself was born in Oodweyne, so he probably did the rightful thing for the overall community. There is no money in Oodweyne market. Imagine if Oodweyne had livestock market. Who would buy it?

Hargeisa is a city close to a million people but Oodweyne is a small town. By bringing to Hargeisa, livestock owners and brokers (Dilal) get better price. It's common sense. The livestock in Hargeisa comes from as far as Oromia region.

Oodweyne people should look internally for the problems and like I said address all the meaningless villages. They should be abolished. They should exercise more authority. Their diaspora community should be empowered, informed and mobilized for development.

Excuses are not good enough.

looooool Sayid calling me Nacas. War livestock herders don't get taxed. The brokers/dilaal gets taxed. The small $1 you're crying about is to maintain the facility. Xaged geen hadi meshu jirin? Ma waxa moday ina Saylada free lagu dhisay oo leska so gali karo sidi xeryahi oodweyne?


Ras

[SayyidUmar]

Oodweyne was once bigger than Hargeisa, Burco and Berbera. There were mixture of clans, Reer Axmed, Makahill, Ciise Musa, Arap, Ciidagle, many HY clans. It was the capital of all Isaaq between 1790-1890. Not this shithole today with 1 sub-clan.

there was Ottomon counsulate in Oodweyne. till the great fire.

[samatar133]

Sayid, I think you haven't understood what I was talking about.

Livestock are taxed in markets such as the ones in Burco and Hargyesa.
Does Oodweyne have a livestock market? if not, whose fault is that?
who is preventing them to have a market?
Is there a reasonable way where livestock can be taxed in a region that does not have a market?

Mide kale, I don't know where you get these absurd statistics where 80% of Somaliland's livestock comes from Oodweyne. Laakiin taasi muhiiba maahee, waxaad iiga jawaabtaa su'aalaha aan kor kugu waydiiyay.

[SayyidUmar]

Egal himself was born in Oodweyne, so he probably did the rightful thing for the overall community

Egaal mum was reer sugulle Amina kuluc the aunt of the famous singer Maxamed Axmed Kuluc, Haji Ibraahim Egaal had a house next to ours, its still there in Oodweyne.
His dad grow rich from livestock trade in Oodweyne developing two Fooqs in Suuqa hargeisa in the 1920's. Both the fooq Ina Egaal sold to wage war against his abtiyal.
Egaal was a vengeful brat that got bullied in Oodweyne when he was young. Egaal entire clan the reer baale live with either reer sugulle in oodweyne or basiiqa with the reer wayd (xirsi cisman) to this day, we never expelled them we treat them right, even though what Ina Egaal did.

To add insult to injury Egaal took the right of oodweyne to collect tax and gave it to hargeisa and burco. Then he said 'bury me in Berbera' when he was dying eben thought he lived in oodweyne, hargeisa his entire life. Shows how much he hates its reer abti

[SayyidUmar]

Sayid, I think you haven't understood what I was talking about.

Livestock are taxed in markets such as the ones in Burco and Hargyesa.
Does Oodweyne have a livestock market? if not, whose fault is that?
who is preventing them to have a market?
Is there a reasonable way where livestock can be taxed in a region that does not have a market?

Mide kale, I don't know where you get these absurd statistics where 80% of Somaliland's livestock comes from Oodweyne. Laakiin taasi muhiiba maahee, waxaad iiga jawaabtaa su'aalaha aan kor kugu waydiiyay.

saaxib. go back home and do some real research. trust me on this walal.

yes livestock are taxed in hargeisa, Burco markets and Berbera privatley owned maxjar and port customs.
Oodweyne is not allowed to have a livestock because of xeer 12. only govt can make a livestock not indivdiuals.
sayalada livestock market is govt department some section controlled by wasaarda xoolaha some section its control by local govt.similar to waaxda gacan libaax, or waaxda koodbuur.
yes regions without a market can tax, gabeily collects its own livestock tax revenues but not oodweyne beaucse hargeisa and burco would lose out.

saaxib, next time you in somaliland go to oodweyne and upper hawd. dont take my word.

[SayyidUmar]

samatar, if you wanna grow rich in somaliland move to oodweyne saaxib. the locals like outsiders. marry a local.
get to know the livetsock business 5 years you'll make several million. war, dhabshiil, indero-deero, omaar buy from oodweyne and hawd and transport to a middle man in saudi.

[Hawdian]

Sayyid,

I'm coming to Oodweyne mate after all I'm the Ras of Hawd and my adhi will be known as Ras 571 (or tell me the birthday of Sultan Nur, I will add his date of birth instead of 571).

Samatar has to go through me mate. Telegraph him the info

Me and hooBariiska will be coming together and we have our own trucks. No one has more adhi than Isaxaaq Careh the adhile remember after all we invented the industry. We are the royal family of adhi raising and export. I feel bad that my symbol is two flags and a lion but not two flags and waan (ram)


Ras