The modernization of Oodweyne town.

[SayyidUmar]

Mide kale, I don't know where you get these absurd statistics where 80% of Somaliland's livestock comes from Oodweyne. Laakiin taasi muhiiba maahee, waxaad iiga jawaabtaa su'aalaha aan kor kugu waydiiyay.

FACT, livestock is 90% of the somaliland economy and the bread and butter of our society.

Its not absured saaxib, 80% of Somaliland livestock comes from odweyne directly because the land is suited livettock. Banka Tuuyo and Banka aroori which the govt is eying up its the jewel in the crown. But there is HaroGardur, haro-xagreey, haro ciid, haro dig. these places in haud reserve area is factory Somaliland livestock economy.

In the entire 5 regions of Somali (Shanta Somalia), Djbouti, Somaliland, Somalia, NFD,Somali galbeed the place with the most livetsock is Somali Galbeed especially the haud areas of HaroGardur, haro-xagreey, haro ciid, haro dig, haro doollo.

You talking about 80% of Somaliland livestock, I am telling you the Haud region account for 70%-80% of the entire Shanta Somalia.

[SayyidUmar]

Sayyid,

I'm coming to Oodweyne mate after all I'm the Ras of Hawd and my adhi will be known as Ras 571 (or tell me the birthday of Sultan Nur, I will add his date of birth instead of 571).

Samatar has to go through me mate. Telegraph him the info

Me and hooBariiska will be coming together and we have our own trucks. No one has more adhi than Isaxaaq Careh the adhile remember after all we invented the industry. We are the royal family of adhi raising and export. I feel bad that my symbol is two flags and a lion but not two flags and waan (ram)


Ras

saaxib, the only business in somaliland worth investing in is livestock you can not lose. trust me.everything else is bullshit, clothing from china, shoes from hindiya, hudhadh from europe you ganna lose mate. Spare parts everything is crap.

the other alternative is politics.

Livestock is the only worth wasting time on. been there, done that.

[SayyidUmar]

Sayyid,
We are the royal family of adhi raising and export. I feel bad that my symbol is two flags and a lion but not two flags and waan (ram)


Ras

actually, suufi xaasan, and few reer ugaadh. thats its. there were many ciise musa also. but majority were HY kale. i mean if you look at all the historically double storey building in a Hargeisa they are 95% owned by livestock entrepreneurs. Haaji Ibraahim Egaal,and Haaji yusuf imaan grew rich of livestock.

the sacad musa are coming saaxib with new innovations look at the guy with hummer, he is making a killing as they. smart guy. From being a engineer in Canada to being a livestock entrepreneur in hargeisa. The guy is ganna be a millionaire mark my words.

[samatar133]

Sayid, I think you haven't understood what I was talking about.

Livestock are taxed in markets such as the ones in Burco and Hargyesa.
Does Oodweyne have a livestock market? if not, whose fault is that?
who is preventing them to have a market?
Is there a reasonable way where livestock can be taxed in a region that does not have a market?

Mide kale, I don't know where you get these absurd statistics where 80% of Somaliland's livestock comes from Oodweyne. Laakiin taasi muhiiba maahee, waxaad iiga jawaabtaa su'aalaha aan kor kugu waydiiyay.

saaxib. go back home and do some real research. trust me on this walal.

yes livestock are taxed in hargeisa, Burco markets and Berbera privatley owned maxjar and port customs.
Oodweyne is not allowed to have a livestock because of xeer 12. only govt can make a livestock not indivdiuals.
sayalada livestock market is govt department similar to waaxda gacan libaax, or waaxda koodbuur.
yes regions without a market can tax, gabeily collects its own livestock tax revenues but not oodweyne beaucse hargeisa and burco would lose out.

saaxib, next time you in somaliland go to oodweyne and upper hawd. dont take my word.

I guess we are not talking about the same Somaliland.
I don't know what this Xeer 12 is all about and what it entails but one thing I know is that no one in SL is going to prevent you if open up a livestock market in your town.

Again I am not aware where Gabiley collects livestock taxation but I will talk to people in Gabiley to make sure that is not true.

Finally, I can't even think of a possible mechanism were livestock tax can be collected in a region that does not have a market and a road where trade goes through.
Are you saying that local gov officials should wonder around in hundreds of km square of mi'yi land in search of finding individual reer miyi xoolo dhaqato families and then issue taxation papers in the middle of jungles

Ma nin reer miyi ah oo geeliisa iskala jooga oo aan suuq iyo iib-gayn iyo aan waxaasba ku hawlanayn oo deegaankiisii xoolihiisa ku raacanaya ayaad cashuur ka qaadi kartaa?

[SayyidUmar]

listen, meesha wa afrika, when was the last time you went back saaxib.kkk
there is no black or white not even grey. kkk

[samatar133]

It doesn't matter xiligii iigu danbaysay wadanka laakiin waxaad ii sharaxdaa sida ay cashuur u qaadi karto magaalo aan suuq xoolo iyo laami ganacsi maro midna lahayni?

Do you think geel jire can be taxed in his own deegaan and xero?

[SayyidUmar]

[quote="samatar133"]

yes i talking about somaliland. xeer 12 was created for collection, distribution, allocation of tax revenue for Maroodijeex, Togdheer, and oodweyne regions. they are inter-twined. If you change one, you have to change the others.

the govt is the only one that has authority to open livestock market saaxib. Unless you wanna feel the wrath of the govt.
if i for example had several millions and nobody can stop me buying land, building the livestock center. But soon as i start for business, the govt will find out the will demolish the buildings and arrest me. Xeer 12 needs to be abolished.

local tax officers can not walk around, now soon as you open for business they will come to you because they need documentation from sayalada livestock market before export. large exporters go straight to berbera and get the documentation their.

We are talking livestock for sale, that what saylada is for.

[SayyidUmar]

Sayalad works in 3 ways:

1. livestock being bought from person to another, - for example I have newly born soon I buy a waan for roughly $70, I get a ticket for $1 that proves I paid for the animal, then given the gates.

2. livetock traded by livestock entrepreneurs- This is sent for export to middle east via Berbera.

3. livestock sold as meat in sirbada waaheen - you are a resturant owner you buy waan and get $1 ticket and then have the option of giving it to the local govts for another $1 to get it slaughtered if you cant be bothered. thats $2. They slaughter the animal in XeeriDhiig in east Hargeisa which is owned by local govt again.

[samatar133]

OK, I will find out if this xeer 12 exists or not.

Habeen wanaagsan

[SayyidUmar]

It doesn't matter xiligii iigu danbaysay wadanka laakiin waxaad ii sharaxdaa sida ay cashuur u qaadi karto magaalo aan suuq xoolo iyo laami ganacsi maro midna lahayni?

Do you think geel jire can be taxed in his own deegaan and xero?

Taxation will done by making a livestock market in Oodweyne , all that in the way is Xeer 12. Suuq xoolo iyo road reer oodweyne aya samayn . all we need is to get rid of xeer 12 saaxib.gabiley, hargeisa, burco, ceerigabo they all tax their own goods, why not oodweyne?

[HooBariiska]

I am new, just looked at old posts you seem to talk about hargeisa and isxaaq.kkk
reer warmooge are reer sugulle.kkk. reer warmooge settled with reer sugulle in daba-gorayaale, gocan-dhaale, reybad khaatumo, lan mulxaao ilaa hawd iyo doobo-guduud wa tuulo reer sugule ilaa moholin.
reer war-mooge pay dia or maag with the bah-makahill sub-clan or reer sugulle. they have nothing in common with rest of the ugaadh cumer such as the ugaadh umar ee reer saalax iyo haruun, iyo yusuf. I know the entire reer warmooge by hand.kkk

WTF you talkin about man, who are these ppl you're talkin abt? your wrong reer warmooge is a jilib of ugaadh cumar. who is bah-makaahil?

i am cabdella isaxaaq, who are u? and what was that comments about camp ugaadh?

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Why not bypass Hargeisa, Burco and Berbera altogether? If the region is as potentially rich as you say it is, why not just go your own way? Why not invest in your own port in Maydh, invest in your own slaughterhouses and abattoirs as well as storing/refrigeration facilities. All of this would cost a few million dollars tops. Add to that a few dhows and large fishing vessels and the entire eastern SL would be self-sufficient and providing jobs to lots of layabouts and geeljires.

[MrPrestige]

And how will goods from Maydh arrive in Oodweyne? You need to reopen the old airstrip or at least complete the road. Reopening the old airstrip and
renovating it won't cost more than $1 million. People got their priorities mixed up, it should be like this.


1. Maydh port

2.Airstrip/Airport

3. The major road


get the port done and the money will repay itself, it can be used for project no.2 and 3.

[Hawdian]

Sayidka,

Thanks for the info inadeer even though you have added a lot of salt and pepper

No one is stopping Odweyne from doing business but Hargeisa is where is at coz that's where most Isaac meet (Isaxaaq, Cidagale, Arab, Sacad Muse and even Ayub). No town has that diversity.

It makes sense to do biz here.

Habar keliya wax ma tari karto.

[theyuusuf143]

Hawdian lool. habar keliyi fool ma dhaqday ku qurux badantahay. it seems Bohola virus is on the rise if you know what i mean.