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The modernization of Oodweyne town.

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Re: The modernization of Oodweyne town.

Postby SayyidUmar » Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:52 pm

were you from saaxib?

if you interest in the trade sell at haji season that when prices are all time high up to $100-$120 per head, buy when prices are low at dry season up $60-$65 per head in hargeisa, oodweyne is roughly $40-$45 per head but you must buy a 8 months before hand in whilst prices low in are order to fattern you livestock somewere like a seeraha, usually if have a farm near hargeisa is good.

the further south you go to kilalka shanad and hawd you get as low as $35-$37 in areas such as sheeygoosh in haro-ciide or danood haro doolo and thus areas. sometimes if your lucky $34, but thats as low as it gets. but every jeeble and every middle from hargeisa and burco inflate the price at the end, so in early.

factor in transportation cost, cost rental of trucks, driver, caws is better to rent farmland. thats all it is.

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Re: The modernization of Oodweyne town.

Postby MrPrestige » Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:30 pm

The few remaining 1 or 2 HA minority families in Oilweyne should be evicted in my opinion. Oodweyne oil is only for Oilweyne natives, its resources
shouldn't be used to subsidize others, so sas maha Sayyid Lol?

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Re: The modernization of Oodweyne town.

Postby SayyidUmar » Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:40 pm

everybody is welcome saaxib.

there is no HA family currently not that I know, maybe from the 1850's to 1930's, it a tuulo now that why regeneration needs to start. and i think the oil issues is different and oil should shared nationally to develop the country,

each gobol has to be self-sufficient now how is oodweyne gobol gonna be gobol if they cant collect tax revenue?

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Re: The modernization of Oodweyne town.

Postby LiquidHYDROGEN » Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:36 am

were you from saaxib?

if you interest in the trade sell at haji season that when prices are all time high up to $100-$120 per head, buy when prices are low at dry season up $60-$65 per head in hargeisa, oodweyne is roughly $40-$45 per head but you must buy a 8 months before hand in whilst prices low in are order to fattern you livestock somewere like a seeraha, usually if have a farm near hargeisa is good.

the further south you go to kilalka shanad and hawd you get as low as $35-$37 in areas such as sheeygoosh in haro-ciide or danood haro doolo and thus areas. sometimes if your lucky $34, but thats as low as it gets. but every jeeble and every middle from hargeisa and burco inflate the price at the end, so in early.

factor in transportation cost, cost rental of trucks, driver, caws is better to rent farmland. thats all it is.
:mindblown: I'm sorry? You can buy geel for as low as $35-$65? What about halsha?

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Re: The modernization of Oodweyne town.

Postby Hawdian » Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:57 am

Warya L2H,

Qurbaha wad ku asasaqday dee. You need to use your common sense. The camels cost average $600-$1000 depending on several factors. Clearly he is talking about sheep and goats.

In Hargeisa a sheep can go for $60-$70. Then its sold in the Middle East for $120-$150 and even higher during Eid seasons.

Even the hid from camel costs more than $35 :D

Ninyo instead of being negative 24/7, sometimes think outside your head and try to gain information from the locals...accept the way their live and their lifestyle.

You need to understand the locals in order to implement change. It's not about them being wrong but enhancing their qualities.

Sayyid is providing valuable information. Much appreciated.

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Re: The modernization of Oodweyne town.

Postby Typhoon » Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:53 am

my explanation why oodwayne is less developed is, because the people in that part tend be more of pastoralist and have no need for the services that a urban setting requires.
and the local pastoralist as soon as they sell, or lose their lifestock tend to migrate to haregisa or burco.

I believe the diaspora in oodwayne should invest more there by buiding their house and shop there instead of hargeisa;
that would encourage economic activity and the local population start investing in oodwayne as to attract the diaspora capital Financial Liquidity will be formed with local construction boom and foreign currency will be accumulated and that will create new capital formation and automatic informal assets will be capitalised.

I think the camel and sheep market is still valuable thats why the locals tend be more passive about development (how can you blame them when the world supper power is reluctant to move away from oil based economics even though that is limited market in the future)


I think interest provides a good market for these remote regions if the figure out internet business concept.

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Re: The modernization of Oodweyne town.

Postby MrPrestige » Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:40 am

Sayyid That is good, the place should be kept clean. :up: It can thrive but that depends on if its diaspora and entrepreneurs invest in it.




Big entrepreneurs in Hargeisa, Djibouti and Uganda that hail from Oodweyne


Amina Hersi Moghe - Richest woman in Uganda - Cali Siciid

Khadar Ambassador - Owner of Ambassador hotel - Cali Siciid

Cismaan Kaahin - Owner of Kaah business centre and numerous other businesses - Ugaadh Cumar

Mohammed Ibrahim Yassin Olad CEO of Daalo airlines - Gumbuur



and many more





It is those people you should be lobbying to invest in their town not outsiders. :up:

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Re: The modernization of Oodweyne town.

Postby SayyidUmar » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:23 pm

:mindblown: I'm sorry? You can buy geel for as low as $35-$65? What about halsha?
didn't i say sheeps and goats only. camels are very expensive per head its about $600-$800 low season and $800-1000 high season also depending on location.

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Re: The modernization of Oodweyne town.

Postby SayyidUmar » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:38 pm


Sayyid is providing valuable information. Much appreciated.

Ras
yeah bro i told you already oodweyne is 80% of somaliland livestock trade. it runs in the blood
most adhile at hargeisa and burco livestock markets are reer oodweyne in the past.
even today most of the houses that are surrounded near xaafada saylada hargeisa are owned by reer oodweyne, also the houses in xaafada lafoole ee saylada burco.

reer oodweyne tend to settle and buy house near xaafada saylada hargeisa and burco for convenience and ease of business,
and so their extended family can stay with them during Haji/ciid season when they come to sell their livestock. Its really a family business.

thats why if oodweyne was allowed to collect tax revenue, most of these people would relocate to back to their degan oodweyne.

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Re: The modernization of Oodweyne town.

Postby SayyidUmar » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:56 pm

my explanation why oodwayne is less developed is, because the people in that part tend be more of pastoralist and have no need for the services that a urban setting requires.
and the local pastoralist as soon as they sell, or lose their lifestock tend to migrate to haregisa or burco.

I believe the diaspora in oodwayne should invest more there by buiding their house and shop there instead of hargeisa;
that would encourage economic activity and the local population start investing in oodwayne as to attract the diaspora capital Financial Liquidity will be formed with local construction boom and foreign currency will be accumulated and that will create new capital formation and automatic informal assets will be capitalised.

I think the camel and sheep market is still valuable thats why the locals tend be more passive about development (how can you blame them when the world supper power is reluctant to move away from oil based economics even though that is limited market in the future)


I think interest provides a good market for these remote regions if the figure out internet business concept.

good points you touched on bro,

reer oodweyne settle near livestock markets, hargeisa and burco
because their is family, community, business and people pull together through support networks.
you have situation were reer oodweyne are the economic drive both in hargeisa and burco whilst oodweyne is slowly dying.
the only way they will go back to oodweyne is if their is a livestock market built their, then they sell up in the cities and build new houses in oodweyne.
the diaspora dont drive economic growth, is the livestock market and reer miyi.

they dont use local govt. services its the reer magaal that settle in the cities in order to benefit from govt. services
the reer miyi are very distrustful of govt. because their from a place with hardly no govt. with no services.
lastly, these people cannot move away from the livestock trade because the govt. cannot provide enough jobs in the economy.
its a necessity of survival.
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Re: The modernization of Oodweyne town.

Postby SayyidUmar » Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:07 pm

i know a old man that lives in tuulada ceeg in burco district. he has 4000 heads sheep and goats and 150 camels, 400 cows.
4000 sheep and goat at $100 is $400,000 and at the higher end of $120 is $480,000
150 head camels at $1000 thats $150,000

the old guy net worths is between $550,000 - $630,000. so 'i asked why dont you build a hotel in hargeisa or burco'
he replied 'if there is war tomorrow the value of the hotel will be zero, whilst my livestock will double, also, i can
pay maag (blood money), pay gabaati (dhowri) if a son was to wed, and drinks it milk, eats its meat and use its hides for shelter and barter,
and trade a neef for my qeyilaad'.kkk

i know another guy his dad lives near daba-goryaale then have 3,500 sheep and goats and 160 camels.
3500 sheep at $100 is $350,000
160 camel at $1000 is $160,000
his net worth is $510,000, so his son comes broke from germany and says i want my share, he supported them
and build them several berkad.
he got 100 sheep and sold them at $100. he got $10,000 and got married.

btw, if you guys think i am joking with those estimation, guess again. i am not. i even went around counting them :lol: :lol:
each family in these regions have several thousand head of sheep and goats and several hundred camel.
they are bloody rich. but will not sell one goat, if they are dying.

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Re: The modernization of Oodweyne town.

Postby HooBariiska » Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:23 pm

My dad is old school dilaal. In hawd days waligiiba he was involved the livestock business. We have couple hundred sheep in dabogoryaale and we be sold soon.
That man you mentioned is very wise waa runtii.

In Hollywood they say no business like show business. In hawd we say no busy like geel/adhi business

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Re: The modernization of Oodweyne town.

Postby Hawdian » Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:29 pm

Sayyid,

Tell about the wells (ceelasha). How much can I drill one for in Hawd?

I like your adhi talk. We now speak the same language.


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