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The Vision Coming Together

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The Vision Coming Together

Postby Hawdian » Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:56 am

Ras Hawdian is not just a forum pen, it is a vision. Anyways have your say guys and no childish comments.

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To reach its full potential it needs about 15 more years. From military integration/joint forces, Academia institution (Admas University College, New Generation with graduates held in AU headquarter (grand building that gives the new school grand perception), Ogsadey School of Business (to be est. in Bahir Dar), Abdulmajed University), cultural exchange (Somaliland singers to film their videos in Lake Tana and beyond, artist collaborate, the likes of Teddy to hold concert), etc, etc.


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Re: The Vision Coming Together

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Fock Itoobiya :pacspit:

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Re: The Vision Coming Together

Postby Khalid Ali » Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:34 pm

Keep preaching hawdian the message Will reach from Maqshir ila makhreb

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Re: The Vision Coming Together

Postby Methylamine » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:21 pm

Fock Itoobiya :pacspit:
Ha laga wasso those raw meat eaters :dj:

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Re: The Vision Coming Together

Postby TheGrumpyGeeljire » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:50 pm

Yeah..screw Ethiopia. Viva Somaliland. Hawdian, you can't be both. You're either a Somalilander or a dabaqoodhi. Choose one and stop promoting this pro-dabaqodhi propaganda. If you go back home and start saying this people will think your nuts.

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Re: The Vision Coming Together

Postby skywalker25 » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:12 pm

Fock Itoobiya :pacspit:
Ha laga wasso those raw meat eaters :dj:

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Re: The Vision Coming Together

Postby Khalid Ali » Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:26 pm

Hawdian dont let these Isaaq kids on snet discourage you cousin , the vision is development its prosperity its higher thinking its beyond Borders Its beyond Clan Ethnic national boundaries. Its about behavior its about coexistence its about building effective Blocks. Its about infrastructure its about Business its about Hard currency its about Culture its about tradition its not about Language old feudal conflicts. Its about trade its about Art its about the Berbera Addis Ababa Bahir Dar corridor. its about the Hargeysa Hawassa connection. Preach on Inadeer we will build bigger cities we build better societies we will advance the lives of our people we will enrich their minds'' we will educate them.

Ethiopia and Somaliland :up: :sland:



Mama Itoobiya Gizachew Teshome can sing




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Re: The Vision Coming Together

Postby TheGrumpyGeeljire » Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:16 pm

Alla ceeb maloo dhinto. Khalid inadeer, stop embarrassing us landers. Why do you want to he Ethiopian when god has made us Somalis and gave us Somaliland. We have our own culture, traditions, language and we are Muslims. Why are you promoting filthy Ethiopian Gaalo culture. If you want to listen to some music, listen to Somali music not this xabashi shit.

Khalid inadeer, I must say that I disagree with you and Hawdian.We are Somalilanders and not those effin Ethiopians. Uff.

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Re: The Vision Coming Together

Postby Khalid Ali » Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:21 pm

Alla ceeb maloo dhinto. Khalid inadeer, stop embarrassing us landers. Why do you want to he Ethiopian when god has made us Somalis and gave us Somaliland. We have our own culture, traditions, language and we are Muslims. Why are you promoting filthy Ethiopian Gaalo culture. If you want to listen to some music, listen to Somali music not this xabashi shit.

Khalid inadeer, I must say that I disagree with you and Hawdian.We are Somalilanders and not those effin Ethiopians. Uff.

Ethiopian Music is not bad i like listening to it dont you listen to Micheal Jackson to the Americans are Gaalo to , why always play the religion card , there are 50 million Ethiopian Muslims if not more. i love Jamaican Music and I listen to Arab Music I listen to Ethiopian Music i love Hip hop does that make me want to be African American. I call a spade a spade. i also listen to Somali Music and love it specially Music from Somaliland

THAT DOES NOT MEAN I CANT APPRECIATE OTHER CULTURES


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Re: The Vision Coming Together

Postby Hawdian » Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:35 pm

That's fine if you disagree. Every idea needs opposition in order to drive her forward (its the key motivator). But I am just pointing out how we pro-integration forces are winning the day and the rest of you are just cheap talk.

Waxba mesha kuma haysan. If you're against Ethiopia, why not support then ONLF or the likes? If anyone is embarrassing us its you. You can't decide where you stand in the region. You don't support Somali unity. You don't support Somali struggle such as ONLF. You claim you are anti-Ethiopia at the same time. It does not make sense. Nimanyahow muniiqnimada iska dhafa oo mel ku adkaysta.

For now we are winning. The only thing left is big Teddy Afro concert in Freedom Park.

Walee ina daciif tihin oo iska hadashan. If you anti-Ethiopia, maxa idin diiday ina so dhawaysatan Somalida aminsan secession such as ONLF? Why must you concentrate on their name and not see their agenda?

Anagu we support integration and the sacred unity of Ethiopia based on agenda, regional policies and we believe that's the right direction for SL and its people to go since they can't see eye to eye with Somalia and Kenya is too far.

We share more things in common with our immediate neighbor to the west. This project does not need emotionally charged men to jump on board.

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Re: The Vision Coming Together

Postby Xildiiid » Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:41 pm

For now I believe it's perfect that we gain access to their military schools but when we regain our sovereignty we have to strenghten our military institution and create an indigenous military culture/doctrine but even then I don't leave out joint military exercises with Ethiopia.

Economically we need to move away from the whores in the middle east, for 23 years bay inala hadheen and they oppose our self determination. Garacda carabta u adeegeya sida Dahabshiil, Indha deero, Omaar while enriching themselves, destroying our livestock has to be outmaneuvered and sidelined.

We need to invest and look for new markets inside Africa and east Asia.

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Re: The Vision Coming Together

Postby Hawdian » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:52 pm

Khalid,

That must be your favorite Ethiopian song of all time :D Good choice cuzz. Teddy is one of the greatest African entertainers of all time.


abebayehosh...lemlem
ababayehosh...lemlem
bale'injerochay lemlem
qumu betera "
inChet leqimay "
bet eskisera "
enwkan bet'ena "
yelegnim aTir "
edej adralehu "
kokob siqoTir "
kokob qoTiray "
sigeba baytay "
tiqoTagnalech "
ye'injera natay "
ye'injera natay "
hulet lij alat "
lenesu fitfit "
lene'dirqoshih "
hode'wisT gebto "
sinqoshaqushih "
Teddy is huge fan of classical Ethiopia and big supporter of the old school including the Oromo warrior, Dejazmach Balcha Aba Nefso. In the video, he also does the Oromo warrior dance, which mimics the horse galloping.

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The reason Teddy has deep attachment to classical Ethiopia is because he was named after the 18th century ruler, Emperor Tewodros II. The Emperor's birth name was Kassa Hailu. Tewodros was both his Geez name and aristocratic title.

Teddy's real name is Tewodros Kassahun. It's a combination of Emperor Tewodros' Geez name and his birth name. So his music and art is strongly influenced by the past and by these legends of the 18th and 19th centuries. He feels he is delivering their message and he is an extension of their vision. These men tried to achieve an Ethiopia equal to the great powers of the time that was above tribalism, religion divide and ethnicity.

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Emperor Tewodros II of Gonder with his lions, the man who spearheaded Ethiopian expansion and unity drive but vision was executed by Menelik II of Shoa.

In my opinion, Tewodros II probably had bigger impact on modern Ethiopia than Menelik II. During the time of Tewodros, Abyssinia was like present day Somalia if not worse. Too many warlords, pirates, fake Kings, Princes (this era was actually called Age of Princes or Zemene Mesafint), etc. Tewodros went on a campaign to unify them and consolidate his power. Almost every other day he was away on a mission all over Abyssinia in an effort to crush the warlords and put an end to all the semi-autonomous states including Gojjam (Ras Goshu Zewde), Shoa (Menelik), Wollo (Queen Worqitu), Tigray (Yohannes), south Gonder (Ras Ali of Begemder/Empress Menen) etc.

He recognized the way forward was skilled people including engineers, architectures, doctors, scientists, machinists, etc. He married his daughter of to a European military engineer (Switzerland) in order to keep him in Abyssinia. He likewise requested Britain to send him skilled people instead they sent delegation. When he learned they did not include skilled workers, he took them hostage (wuxu rabay inay wax baran, inay wax uu dhisan, ciidan casri ah uu sameyan). Wu ku xanaqay, sided igu so diri kartan dad xun oo diplomatic ah markan idin ka codsaday aqoon yahano. Rageedi :clap:

The British invaded him and he committed suicide before they took him hostage. He did not want Europeans to humiliate him, rather death. He died trying to bring skilled people to Ethiopia so he can transfer the knowledge.

That's a great leader in my book. He sacrificed his life for the knowledge of his nation.

Ras

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Re: The Vision Coming Together

Postby Hodan94 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:33 pm

do you speak amxaar hawdian?

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Re: The Vision Coming Together

Postby lasanodboi » Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:08 am

proud of being colonized talk about being trash :snoop:

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Re: The Vision Coming Together

Postby lali99 » Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:27 pm

This is about exchange of culture, trade, learning between two neighbouring countries. We will take the good stuff from their culture and reimburse that with traits of our culture (I'm not saying music should be one of them but there's many thing to a culture than simply music).And for GOD sake, Ethiopia has a majority muslim population more so than any other religions so please put a sock about all those fake cries about Ethiopia. To top of that, Mulsim can do trade with anyone else. Smarten up duriyaad folks and realize that our future is closely link to ethiopia's one.


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