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Buur Madow : Extentension for Odayga is a MUST, same it was done for Tuur,Cigal and Riyale

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Buur Madow : Extentension for Odayga is a MUST, same it was done for Tuur,Cigal and Riyale

Postby ramzy2277 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:40 pm

in an interview, buqor buur modow said his clan's plan is not settle for only 5 years term for president Silanyo, and its a MUST that sIlanyo's presidential term to be extended same it was extended for abdirahman tuur, ibrahim cigal and dahir riyale..!!!





I hope this guys is joking..!! if this ciyaal mentality argument comes true ,that will be the end of Somaliland.

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Re: Buur Madow : Extentension for Odayga is a MUST, same it was done for Tuur,Cigal and Riyale

Postby Togdeer » Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:49 pm

This Buur Madow guy is a joke. Who made him King, who is he the king of?
We Habar Jeclo have our own Suldan, he is reer Yoonis.
Even Biciidi got their own Suldan.
I don't know who this guy leads, but it definitely is not beesha Habar Jeclo.

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Re: Buur Madow : Extentension for Odayga is a MUST, same it was done for Tuur,Cigal and Riyale

Postby Lancer » Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:22 pm

The others did it so we should be able to do it too is his reasoning smh

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Re: Buur Madow : Extentension for Odayga is a MUST, same it was done for Tuur,Cigal and Riyale

Postby Khalid Ali » Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:55 pm

Kulmiye will lose if they do an extension the same way udub lost when they did extension udub lost because every one knew they were afraid of elections i smell Kulmiye is scared of holding elections this means Kulmiye will lose the next elections whether its held in 2016 or 2017.

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Re: Buur Madow : Extentension for Odayga is a MUST, same it was done for Tuur,Cigal and Riyale

Postby theyuusuf143 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:24 pm

buurmadaw is self appointed king . actually habarjeclo is clan led by political or military leaders, our traditional leaders have never been important decision makers. silanyo is the de facto sultan of beesha. After silanyo xirsi gaab will definitely grab the hj traditional and political leadership throne for the next decades . walaahi I dont know none of hj sultans.

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Re: Buur Madow : Extentension for Odayga is a MUST, same it was done for Tuur,Cigal and Riyale

Postby Khalid Ali » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:29 pm

I know the HJ clan elderism structure goes through the Muse abokor reer yoonis line. Buur madow claims to be an African King , aniga la ima didin buur madow he is not a bad guy he is patriotic Somalilander. He was never really pro Kulmiye but he was very pro udub i would not be surpised if he join wadani or ucid. If Kulmiye wants to remain popular in Somaliland it has to hold the elections in time, they would win so much respect but i think they want that this will damage Kulmiye allot if elections dont happen on time. People will get fed up and ucid and wadani dont even have to do allot to win the elections.

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Re: Buur Madow : Extentension for Odayga is a MUST, same it was done for Tuur,Cigal and Riyale

Postby theyuusuf143 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:43 pm

I know the HJ clan elderism structure goes through the Muse abokor reer yoonis line. Buur madow claims to be an African King , aniga la ima didin buur madow he is not a bad guy he is patriotic Somalilander. He was never really pro Kulmiye but he was very pro udub i would not be surpised if he join wadani or ucid. If Kulmiye wants to remain popular in Somaliland it has to hold the elections in time, they would win so much respect but i think they want that this will damage Kulmiye allot if elections dont happen on time. People will get fed up and ucid and wadani dont even have to do allot to win the elections.
thats for sure, kulmiye can't win next presidential election if they extend their term. people will punish them same like Udub.

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Re: Buur Madow : Extentension for Odayga is a MUST, same it was done for Tuur,Cigal and Riyale

Postby Khalid Ali » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:46 pm

i dont get it they are very popular right now if they kept the Weapons they would have gone even more popular ,but the past few weeks i am hearing kordhi kordhi the kordhis will destroy Kulmiye and Ucid or wadani will become winner. Ucid and wadani will say look kulmiye is just a dictatorship and wants more time to loot and they dont care for somaliland. Just like udub and i really want to see president silaanyo running and administrating and doing the leading in the elections if he can keep his party together interesting time ahead of us.

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Re: Buur Madow : Extentension for Odayga is a MUST, same it was done for Tuur,Cigal and Riyale

Postby samatar133 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:52 pm

Khalid, Kulmiye is not an ideological party. It does not stand for anything different from other two parties. It is core supports are drawn from particular clans. It is unfortunate that we have not yet evolved away from clan politics. When Siilaanyo steps down Kulmiye will inevitably lose a the support of huge junk of a particular clan.

If Siilaanyo runs now in 2015 he will always win, he will win in one way or another. If he wins unfairly, in a rigged election, that will be the end of Somaliland. The crew headed by Xirsi Gaab are more than capable and willing to rig elections for Siilaanyo even if that means the end of Somaliland, they simply don't care.
If siilaanyo wins a fair election, it will mean another five years for the incompetent and dementia suffering old man, and that can not be good for Somaliland either. And worse, the probability of him dying and letting the disaster he have as a vice president becoming the president of the republic is quite high, we should avoid that by any cost.
To me extending Siilaanyo's term is the best option of bad alternatives.

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Re: Buur Madow : Extentension for Odayga is a MUST, same it was done for Tuur,Cigal and Riyale

Postby Khalid Ali » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:02 pm

Rigging the elections would just mean a Kulmiye dictatorship you are right Kulmiye is not an ideological party , Ucid is the closest to be an ideological party its a socialists party. Kulmiye had great potential to do great things though , they were on high speed the first 4 years but that was because udub was shit and let SL down. in terms of development they did well. But when it comes to holding elections they suck or even press freedom, or Foreign Policy. if silaanyo runs 2015 and he wins he can win really if he plays it very smart no need even for rigging , but he is afraid of the elections. The sad part for kulmiye is there is no strong leader to succeed Siilaanyo,the party will disintegrate when siilaanyo no longer runs the HJ will depart from the party and the 3 sacad muse guys will fight over the party the 2 bixis and samaale and that would be the end of Kulmiye. Either way Kulmiye internally is even messier than udub. the establishment is to strong in Somaliland xirsi baashe amina weris and ducaale are the key elites in Kulmiye.

Extending his term for one year and than what elections , and who is gonna run in 2016 siilaanyo against ciiro and jamaal. I dont think ilma macaan jeceel kulmiye would want to leave even 2016. Siilaanyo would have been a great leader if he was more control but he is leaning more towards xiirsi and others ,and we did not elect him. I would give siilaanyo 3 terms even if he was 10 years younger and fit. I can tell you if kulmiye is elected for another 5 years either by rigging or winning it is bad for SL. why because Kulmiye in the next 5 years will try to enrich themselves , the first 5 years they worked so hard to win the hearts and minds to get a second term the last term they care less about it. Thats why wadani or ucid would be good because they would work their asses off the next 5 years to be re elected and thats good for Somaliland.

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Re: Buur Madow : Extentension for Odayga is a MUST, same it was done for Tuur,Cigal and Riyale

Postby samatar133 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:17 pm

I don't think rigging elections this time will simply mean Kulmiye dictatorship, I believe it will unleash a massive unrest and turmoil that will threaten the existence of Somaliand.
Waa runtaa the macaal jecel group would want to stay in power for ever, laakiin Siilaanyo should be forced to withdraw his candidacy before his term is extended by a year and half or two years. Him not denouncing his candidacy should mean no extension.

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Re: Buur Madow : Extentension for Odayga is a MUST, same it was done for Tuur,Cigal and Riyale

Postby Khalid Ali » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:21 pm

If he is still alive i dont see why he would denounce his candidacy and who would be his successor Xirsi ,the opposition needs to unite wadani and ucid the problem is faisal and ciiro who are beefing. now faisal wuxu xaqliga dawlada somaliland while jamaal is not.

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Re: Buur Madow : Extentension for Odayga is a MUST, same it was done for Tuur,Cigal and Riyale

Postby theyuusuf143 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:36 pm

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nothing will go wrong if the election commission stick together, and we should trust them complete ly. somaliland will never collapse, if silanyo wins or not. if the politicians try to create problems we should let the army take control, and the army must directly take orders from the supreme court.

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Re: Buur Madow : Extentension for Odayga is a MUST, same it was done for Tuur,Cigal and Riyale

Postby Khalid Ali » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:39 pm

^^ That would be great if we had an independent supreme court like in the United states.

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Re: Buur Madow : Extentension for Odayga is a MUST, same it was done for Tuur,Cigal and Riyale

Postby samatar133 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:41 pm

Xirsi? are you having a laugh?

His successor will be either Samaale or Muuse Biixi. I don't even think Younis Bixi will have a chance.
Mucaarad are not going to unite because Faisal is not reliable at time, he could change at any time.


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