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Re: Somalia Vs Somaliland couple 1890s.
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:46 pm
by Xildiiid
The first chant was chanted when the Somaliland delegation spearheaded by Cigaal came to Mogadishu when Somalia was still a trusteeship and Somaliland a sovereign country. It was an anti Somaliland demonstration, if the Somaliland delegation wasn't blinded by fake "Somali nationalism" they would foresee the future based on that small event.
Re: Somalia Vs Somaliland couple 1890s.
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:28 pm
by samatar133
The naked Konfurians were never serious about Somali unity. Gaadhi moossa ayaan u dirnay iyana gaadhi dada ayay nosoo direen

, was one of their favourite lines in the 60s, sidaan maqlay.
Re: Somalia Vs Somaliland couple 1890s.
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:11 pm
by Estarix
It doesnt say those people in the second photograph are somalis.
Re: Somalia Vs Somaliland couple 1890s.
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:20 pm
by Siciid85
What is wrong with clan? Aren't we all made of clans? In fact every nation on earth is either clan or made of collection of clans. England is clan name, Scotland is clan name, and so is Germany and France.
As for colonial reference, refer to Xildiid post. Somalia is Italian coined, the borders are also based on colonial as well and to top it off, it is state based on clan rule hence the 4.5 of today and "Mod" during Siyaad barre days.
So please just go away as we will never ever join Somalia.
Re: Somalia Vs Somaliland couple 1890s.
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:24 pm
by Siciid85
According to you Somaliland is a clan state because it's dominated by one clan (who's majority) despite history and the independence of Somaliland legitimizing it as a sovereign state. By your logic, Djibouti is also a clan state because it's dominated by Ciise. Afars who's land is 60% of Djibouti have 4 ministries more than Isaaq, who do not have a single district. The Isaaqs being descendants of the business community who settled there in late 1890's.
Your arguments are based on the clan rhetoric of Darood Ismaciil. The argument are not based on facts or common sense, if they were, you wouldn't deny the undeniable.
Of course I'm more entitled to Sool than you are. My family is from Caynaba district and my paternal great grandfather is buried there. I got land in the tuulo he's buried. What's your connection to Sool other than a baseless entitlement? Lol @ Somalinimo.
It seems like you missed my argument completely. You can't see the wood for the trees because of clan emotions. Every inch of Somaliland republic belongs to the state of Somaliland. Isaaq have no interests claiming other peoples land. Our land as well as the land of other clans fall under state jurisdiction.
The colonialists created the concept of a modern Somali state. The same white man you're trying ridicule enabled Somalis to have their own states in the Horn of Africa. If it wasn't for these colonialists, Somalia would lose the current dispute with Kenya about the maritime border between the two states.
Even the concept of "Somaliweyn" was created by and propagated for, by the foreign minister of UK - Ernest Bevin.
I don't get your obsession with colonialism though. Somaliland gained its independence 54 years ago. The AU's position on the borders of Africa is that the colonial boundaries should remain in order to minimize conflict. We won't go against Africa. Simple as that.
I support a UN supervised state referendum on wether Somaliland should legally unite with Somalia or Somaliland regaining its long lost sovereignty. The outcome of such referendum would cement the fate of Somaliland.
Majority rules.

Bravo.
Re: Somalia Vs Somaliland couple 1890s.
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:00 pm
by LiquidHYDROGEN
I've always been amused when a dooro from eyl tells an Isaaq person about his own deegaan. Sanaag is not up for dispute and Sool is shared territory. I know this because it's my land. But then you guys are landless so are forced to claim other people's cities and towns like Kismayo.
Re: Somalia Vs Somaliland couple 1890s.
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:00 pm
by XimanJaale
I've always been amused when a dooro from eyl tells an Isaaq person about his own deegaan. Sanaag is not up for dispute and Sool is shared territory. I know this because it's my land. But then you guys are landless so are forced to claim other people's cities and towns like Kismayo.
Says the guy that whose clan lives in a triangle corridor. Sanaag and Sool are Daarood land and will join their Daarood brethren of Somalia.
Re: Somalia Vs Somaliland couple 1890s.
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:03 pm
by XimanJaale
Also this thread is a failure. Wanlaweyn has always been the home of many civilisation, sultanate's and maritime centre.
The irony is that, majority of the civilisation in modern day Somaliland were either Daarood owned like the 300 year old Warsangali Sultanate, the Dervish state and their Taleex architecture or were Islamic orientated civilisation such as the Adal whom were spearheaded by Daaroods such as Marehan and Ogaden.
Hawiye, Daarood and Southern Dirs were the only clans that can boast with such great and long civilisation. Whilst the eydoors were nothing but footsoldiers for the Dervish or the British.
Re: Somalia Vs Somaliland couple 1890s.
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:09 pm
by skywalker25
Whats the odds that those naked savages are our very own Boons from Gedo. Wallahi I think this must be pre-Darod Marexaan..
Re: Somalia Vs Somaliland couple 1890s.
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:10 pm
by waraabe251
Also this thread is a failure. Wanlaweyn has always been the home of many civilisation, sultanate's and maritime centre.
The irony is that, majority of the civilisation in modern day Somaliland were either Daarood owned like the 300 year old Warsangali Sultanate, the Dervish state and their Taleex architecture or were Islamic orientated civilisation such as the Adal whom were spearheaded by Daaroods such as Marehan and Ogaden.
Hawiye, Daarood and Southern Dirs were the only clans that can boast with such great and long civilisation. Whilst the eydoors were nothing but footsoldiers for the Dervish or the British.
so why are those darods naked. lets sort the clans from each other
hawiye had muqdisho- so civilized
isaaq had berbera-so civilezed
dir had zaila- so civilized
what did darod have. sultan of waskhgeli had one village and was fighting his dhulo bros, dhulo were abused by their naked bros the long foot low iq, boon was just enslaved by southeners
explain why darod are naked
Re: Somalia Vs Somaliland couple 1890s.
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:15 pm
by XimanJaale
Re: Somalia Vs Somaliland couple 1890s.
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:17 pm
by waraabe251
did this nigger just claim harar a dir city
Re: Somalia Vs Somaliland couple 1890s.
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:19 pm
by skywalker25
I think you misunderstood me. I never said the whole of Marexaan was naked savages but as has been said here many times they absorbed a lot of the non-somali locals during their move south. Today maybe as much as 10% of Marexaan is genuine and the rest are the incorporated naked Boons..
Re: Somalia Vs Somaliland couple 1890s.
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:21 pm
by XimanJaale
did this nigger just claim harar a dir city
Harar today is not a Somali city. There is only a few Somalis, the population are predominantly Hararis and Oromo. Harar was the capital of Adal Sultanate, and after Ahmed Gurey it was led by Amir Nuur ibn Mujahid a great Marehan leader, he is directly from my sub-clan and I count 4 to him in abtirisino.
Sxb aniga don't confuse me for a peasant eydoor, I hail from the noble Mareexaan. The warriors, king-makers and nasab.

Re: Somalia Vs Somaliland couple 1890s.
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:24 pm
by XimanJaale
I think you misunderstood me. I never said the whole of Marexaan was naked savages but as has been said here many times they absorbed a lot of the non-somali locals during their move south. Today maybe as much as 10% of Marexaan is genuine and the rest are the incorporated naked Boons..
Unlike the edyoors, the Marehan is a well-known clan. Our lineage is recorded perfectly, and there is no missing link in our abtirsi. We can know a sheegato easily. Whilst an eydoor can't even count to the so-called Sheik Isaxaaq.
