how many times a party candidate can run for SL presidency.?!

[ramzy2277]

I been in debate with a wadani party supporter and I was praising ali warabe and jamal hussen,and all of a sudden this wadani supporter jumped in and said ali warabe is a dictator in disguise and he was forced to sell his party to jamal hussen in order to save his diginity and party from extintion after his dispute with cirro....to cut a long story short...the wadani guy mentioned that faisal ali cant run for presidency for ever because the electorial law in SL only allows the party's chairman to run for presidency for two times.

I wasn't convinced and I searched http://www.somalilandlaw.com and came up with this document



which only memtions the number of term a president can held in office but nothing in regards to the number of time a candidate can run for presidency.

also he made some research and came up with this document




I told him the second clause talks about the number of times a candidate can hold the chair of the party not the presidency .

he based his argument on the legal dispute between cirro and faisal ali where cirro was opting to be the party's official presidency candidate and faisal warabe refused and was looking for the same, hence they went to the supreme court to seatle their differences whihc ended by cirro leaving UCID and making wadani and Faisal loosing any hope to become president of SL hence he broke a deal with jama hussien.

( if that was not true what was the dispute about any way)


by the way, does Wadani have an official vice president candidate.?....who is ahmed momen sayd.? and wa qolama.?

thanks all
so guys, I would if you know about this issue to give your opinion.

[ramzy2277]

btw , my argument was based on that silanyo run for presidency in 2003 and in 2010 moreover, he is running for presidency the third time but only held it once ,hence,he is eligible.

the wadani guy said ,silanya before was party chairman but now as president.

told him to be party candidate ,u must be member of the central committee in the party he/she is registered ,which is the case with silanyo!!

so whats your idea about this issue?

[caadani90]

btw , my argument was based on that silanyo run for presidency in 2003 and in 2010 moreover, he is running for presidency the third time but only held it once ,hence,he is eligible.

the wadani guy said ,silanya before was party chairman but now as president.

told him to be party candidate ,u must be member of the central committee in the party he/she is registered ,which is the case with silanyo!!

so whats your idea about this issue?

If I remember correctly, when Faysal and Cirro went to court, Cirros argument was that Faysal cant run again. The court ruled in Faysals favour hence why he was allowed to remain as UCID chairman and Cirro was forced to start a new party.

Personally I dont think its fair to stop someone running for office. It is the people who will decide whether they want that person as a president or not.

As for the president, its very important to limit the number of terms in office as it reduces the chances of someone sitting on the throne for 20 years (African norm)

[RedPanther]

You mean SL governorship.

[ramzy2277]

Thanks cadani for the information but I am still confused,

So you saying faisal can be only the chairman of UCID party but he cant run for presidency since he already run twice?!!

someone just told me a party candidate cant run more than 2 successive times for presidency ,but he can run a third time but after letting someone else run for presidency before that,same thing faysal is doing now, gave his party to jamal for this term only...,is that true?

[ramzy2277]

where r the experts...???

[theyuusuf143]

you need to read xeer number 14. or just google Xeerka Nidaamka Ururada iyo Axsaabta you will find the PDF file in somalilandlaw.com. I will try to share any way.

[theyuusuf143]

qodobka 12aad ee xeer no 14 fiqradiisa 1aad iyo 2aad waxay dhigayaan sidan

* qofna jagada madaxweynaha (xisbiga) ma qaban karo laba jeer wax ka badan)
* xisbi qaran jagada gudoomiyaha xisbiga uma sharixi karo xubin laba xildoorasho wax ka badan.


basically it means you cant be the chairman or run for president more than 2 times. how ever if you are already elected president you can can run third time from your party because the constitution is above the xeer. for example dr silanyo already run out of kulmiye leadership term. but the constitution gives him the right to run his third time for his party. faysal cali has no that chance.

[ramzy2277]

i think u r mistaken, yusuf, the law you mentioned talks about the post of party's chairman not the state presidency.

[theyuusuf143]

i think u r mistaken, yusuf, the law you mentioned talks about the post of party's chairman not the state presidency.

yes its about the party member, he/she cant be chosen more than 2 times as chairman or to run for president. I used the state presidency example just to mention that silanyo can run his third time because the constitution allows him. how ever faysal ali warabe cant run for president third time because the xeer does not allow.

[CasualFarah]

Till he drops dead.

[Djiboutian]

Thanks cadani for the information but I am still confused,

So you saying faisal can be only the chairman of UCID party but he cant run for presidency since he already run twice?!!

someone just told me a party candidate cant run more than 2 successive times for presidency ,but he can run a third time but after letting someone else run for presidency before that,same thing faysal is doing now, gave his party to jamal for this term only...,is that true?

As far as I know Mr. Faisal Ali Farah was the Chairman of his party since its establishment. He run for the presidential post twice as a Chair of his party and he is still the chairman. That means he was put forward as a candidate for the Chair of his party for 3 terms .

Somaliland law says No one can run for presidential post twice ( If the law says consecutively then anyone who lost twice like Mr. Faisal can try his luck in 2020 but the law says TWICE which means any two times ). Once someone becomes the president he automatically cedes his post as a chairman of his party to someone else so can re-elected only once.

I believe neither Mr. Faisal can be the Chairman of UCID Party nor Mr. Abdulrahman Mohamed Abdullah can run for President seat before he cedes his current position as the Speaker of the House of Representatives.

[ramzy2277]

Thanks Djboutian.

[theyuusuf143]

@ Djiboutian

no he was just chosen 2 times only as the chairman of his party, how ever there is an extension period. faysal won't run for president 2015 or 2020 he never said so.

our constitution is abused many times. for example the constitution says somaliland president can not have an other citizenship. I am not sure if Dr silanyo gave up his British citizenship before june 2010. those running for president 2015 are all naturalized citizens of other countries. Since most of our educated elite are living in the diaspora the "gudiga dastuurka" of egal government did that mistake on purpose to prevent many politicians. egal was some how systematical dictator .

[Rambie]

War fk Somaliland presidency

Thier highest ambition in to get aids or built a couple streets.

None have any solid plans for SL case.

And we are here discussing whether the two losers
can run for presidency or not