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YOUR FAV WALAWEYN(kacaan) FAkeBRICATION

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Re: YOUR FAV WALAWEYN(kacaan) FAkeBRICATION

Postby metamorphosis » Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:48 pm

I see udun and his kumbo herd hasn't given up yet after 83 pages of Dervish history where their fabrication and myth was refuted layer by layer methodically.

Now one has to understand that the dervish movement lasted some 21 years at each stage the ranks changed and clans who supported or rejected the dervish also changed.

Now the above list quoted by Thuga were the founders of the movement between April-August 1899. The date of Hayes Sadlers letter is 1901. This Abshir Dhoore and Ismaaciil Mire were teenagers at that time. Both of these low ranks joined the movement around 1911 by then only xaaji suudi and the Mullah were life the other three were dead.

Most of these daarood novice confuse the 21 years ranks and khusuusi or councillors xaaji suudi was always the second in command, most of the forts from Jidali to Ilig were constructed under his command at every stage of the war xaaji suudi had the final say and the Mullah always sought his advice. In 1915 Xaaji Suudi spread the dervish propaganda to Sanaag region according to the British national archives.

During the battle of Gumburo or Cagaarweyne and Daraatoole in 1903 British soldiers routinely sent letters home explaining the situation to their families one of them wrote an interesting letter he said " the Mullah was no where to be seen it seems he left the entire battle for the Sultan ( Nur)." Few days later an Ogaden man defected to the British side you can find his testimony in the same book quoted by Thuga volume 2 not 1. The ogaden defector collaborated the soldiers story the ogaden man testified that the Mullah and sultan Nur weren't in speaking terms after the tow battles alluding to the fact that the Mullah was absent from those tow battles and the entire task falling on Sultan Nur command.

These Isaaq men weren't soldiers they were co founders of the movement there is a reason why sultan Nur has a tomb in Taleex there is an amble evidence indicating that he was behind the idea of the Dervish war against the Roman Catholic mission according to Hayes Sadler himself the story of the converted children was spread by sultan Nur and that the Mullah himself wasn't even aware nor bothered with such things that fact ignited and founded the dervish movement the rest is mere history read Hayes Sadlers letters on the movement of sultan Nur from May-Agust 1899 when him the Mullah were collecting men and arms. In August 1899 the Mullah and Sultan Nur met at Burco and the war was declared all these facts are well documented.

Mind not their kacaan fairy tales the isaaq were behind the creation of the movement only later after 1907 the Mullah and the dervish became synonymous.

Thuga observe the very Aw Jaamac page you quoted see how he manipulated the awards reducing Buqul while increasing aabshir also notice how he omits the third HJ man from the list thus giving his Dhulos more in numbers thats how these faqash blatantly rewrote history right on our face.
Isaaqs are known to abhor the dervishes and everything they stood for and you are a prime example of this. However here you are trying to claim credit for your tol saying they made up majority of it. Which one is it? :mindblown: Only an eydoor would do this.

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Re: YOUR FAV WALAWEYN(kacaan) FAkeBRICATION

Postby X.Playa » Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:12 pm

Isaaq also abhors al. Shabaab that doesn't changes the fact that the founders and both al shabaab amiirs were isaaq.

The daroods lack logic and facts.

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Re: YOUR FAV WALAWEYN(kacaan) FAkeBRICATION

Postby Rambie » Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:14 pm

udun is hopeless, I won't bother replying to him.

TGS is a funny guy.
In the other thread he was crying and throwing accusations
against SL for allegedly training all-Shabab in Burco.
But yet he supports the Daravish which its the 20 century version
of Al-ashabab!

Isaaq founded the Daravish and had more rules in it
than your weak vulnerable clan that was taking hits from all sides.
But you don't see us bragging bout it or brainwashing the minds of
an entire nation to make ourselves relevant in history.


Straight from the British archives.
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Re: YOUR FAV WALAWEYN(kacaan) FAkeBRICATION

Postby theyuusuf143 » Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:05 am

even the Al itahad was founded by sheikh ali warsame in burao 1984, although most isaaqs never tolerated al-itahad. clans and individuals are different. there has never been one single religious group based on clan ideology. the mad mullah spent most of his life fighting against his own darod people. Sultan nur and iggare came from the same subclan one was leading the British forces while the other was leading the dervish forces. the last day of teleex bombing the top commanders who died there were isaaqs and the ones who killed them were also isaaqs.

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Re: YOUR FAV WALAWEYN(kacaan) FAkeBRICATION

Postby Djiboutian » Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:28 pm

The translation is not fake but the afarleey is. He called his people sweepers in another letter, do you still believe he is what the Kacaan told us? I mean about him being reer Hamar, Ogaden, Darood Jeberti?! :shock: If yes, why is he dissing his tribe?

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It is funny when someone cite Said Sheekh Samatar who happen to be Christian but not X.Playa who is Muslim. X.Playa is not rewriting the history but rectifying the Christian "Said Sheekh Samatar", the liar "Aw isku sheeg Jama Omar Issa" and the imposter Ahmed Farah "Idaajaa" fabrications.

Waiting for you to compose another "Afarleey" and don't forget to dedicate it to the Mad Mullah.

Questions to whoever believe Abshir Dhoore was the second man in Dervish Movement, When did he join Dervish Movement? When did he die? And how did he die? Once you know the answer you'll know his rank.

Top ranking officers in Dervish Movement in 1900 was different from 1906, when Sultan Nur Aman died, the list was changed after Canjeel 1909. It was changed again in 1913 so which list you are refering to?


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