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Been baad sheegtay, but that is to be expected.
Cabudwaq is larger than Berbera and Gabiley.
The largest Darood city is Jigjiga.

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It's a long-standing myth that Darood are the same population as Isaaq or Hawiye.

It's like this;

Hawiye
Isaaq
Dir
Darood
Minority clans

Occupying large swathes of uninhabitable desert/bushland and a million different tuulos populated by 30 families doesn't make you a big clan.

i don't know about Siad Barre himself, but he most likely was a tribalist along with the whole regime.

1. His regime forcefully displaced some clans and forced his own clansmen and extended clansmen into those regions.
2. The clan-map of the horn of Africa, was made in favor of his clan and extended clan.
3. He changed Imam Ahmed's history in favor of his clan.

Quote from the back of the book:

"Barre was the architect of the Somali October Revolution and the third President of the young Somali nation. At the time of independence in 1960, Somalia was touted in the West as the model of a rural democracy in Africa. However, tribalism, extended family loyalties and conflicts were social problems the civilian government failed to eradicate and eventually succumbed to itself. A bloodless coup led buy Barre ushered Somalia into the modern era. He brought radical positive developments including volunteer labour harvested and planted crops, and built roads and hospitals. Virtually all industry, banks and businesses were nationalised. Co-operative farms were heavily promoted. He forbade tribalism and stressed loyalty to the central authorities. He introduced Somalia's first writing script for the Somali language. This is his definite story"

If you believe that Ina Siad Barre left a lasting legacy while none of Somaliland presidents did, Orod oo xabaasha Ina Siad Barre ka dul ooy in a hope he'll return.

The former president Muj. Abdulrahman Ahmed Ali and the current president Muj. Ahmed Mohamed Mahmoud defeated your lasting legacy and freed Somaliland. If you don't consider getting back Somaliland sovereignty lasting legacy then I don't know what you really consider a legacy other than the latin Somali alphabet which Musa Galaal founded.

The problem with many of you is that you intend to get emotional about every subject and can't see things beyond the tears. I have long learned how to separate emotions from politics. Rationality is the way forward mate.

Siad Barre left the Somali alphabet as a legacy and equally we can credit him along with many other players Eritrea's secession, which reshaped Ethiopia. Barre may have made many mistakes in a domestic levels but his vision in the region was far bigger than any Somali politician ever.

By the way his bar ama baro campaign is still regarded the biggest literacy campaign in the history. The Somali Republic went from zero literacy to above 60% in just matter of five years.

Musa Galaal or Shire Jama Ahmed may have initiated the alphabet but it was Barre's bar ama baro campaign that made it Somali.

SL politicians are yet to create any meaningful legacy really. You can always name one if you disagree.

I always regard Barre as a prominent politician and Somali thinker. I don't believe that he was tribalist but he focused on one region (Banadir) more than others including his own Gedo. AUN.

At that time, there was no Darood in Gedo. He planted his tribe there as refuges from Ethiopia in the 70s.
Not only that, he tried to settle the Ogaden on our lands!

You're loosing your touch Hawdian.

The SRC took its toughest political stance in the campaign to break down the solidarity of the lineage groups. Tribalism was condemned as the most serious impediment to national unity. Siad Barre denounced tribalism in a wider context as a "disease" obstructing development not only in Somalia, but also throughout the Third World. The government meted out prison terms and fines for a broad category of proscribed activities classified as tribalism. Traditional headmen, whom the democratic government had paid a stipend, were replaced by reliable local dignitaries known as "peacekeepers" (nabod doan), appointed by Mogadishu to represent government interests. Community identification rather than lineage affiliation was forcefully advocated at orientation centers set up in every district as the foci of local political and social activity. For example, the SRC decreed that all marriage ceremonies should occur at an orientation center. Siad Barre presided over these ceremonies from time to time and contrasted the benefits of socialism to the evils he associated with tribalism.

To increase production and control over the nomads, the government resettled 140,000 nomadic pastoralists in farming communities and in coastal towns, where the erstwhile herders were encouraged to engage in agriculture and fishing. By dispersing the nomads and severing their ties with the land to which specific clans made collective claim, the government may also have undercut clan solidarity. In many instances, real improvement in the living conditions of resettled nomads was evident, but despite government efforts to eliminate it, clan consciousness as well as a desire to return to the nomadic life persisted. Concurrent SRC attempts to improve the status of Somali women were unpopular in a traditional Muslim society, despite Siad Barre's argument that such reforms were consonant with Islamic principles