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Pakistani national sentenced to 1 year jail term for spreading Shiite doctorine in Somaliland

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Re: Pakistani national sentenced to 1 year jail term for spreading Shiite doctorine in Somaliland

Postby X.Playa » Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:57 pm

Shia is basically non Islamic; they praise the Prophet but curse his companions, what logic is that? So I support this decision.

Little Cawil Mucjiso boy, I suggest to you to re-read the definition of Muslim again. Cursing Cumar , Cuthmaan or any Saxaaba doesn't make one an apostate .

"O ye who believe! Believe in Allah and His Messenger, and the scripture which He hath sent to His Messenger and the scripture which He sent to those before (him). Any who denieth Allah, His angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Day of Judgment, hath gone far, far astray."(An-Nesaa':136)

So if a Shia even peed or defecates on so called Saxaaba graves , he still is a Muslim.

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Re: Pakistani national sentenced to 1 year jail term for spreading Shiite doctorine in Somaliland

Postby X.Playa » Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:58 pm

Although I am not against shias, Somaliland is already predominantly sunni, we don't want future religious conflicts, we are struggling our clan differences and can't afford an other bloody differences. You can bend the law but don't break it. I mean you can be shia Buddhist alcoholic inside your home, but never ever try to make it legal.
So Mr Lunatic , if a person in Somaliland is converted to Shiasim your madness will charge him with a crime ? miyaa?
No. he or she can practice his shiasim in his own compound. I am against those who are imposing their faith or habits on others.

lol imposing , who is imposing you who call for the imprisonment of Shia or the man who just happened to showcase his Shiaism ?? I don't think by definition you are sane lately.

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Re: Pakistani national sentenced to 1 year jail term for spreading Shiite doctorine in Somaliland

Postby ramzy2277 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:17 pm

There is a law in SLND that prohibits any action that can lead to disturbance in religious affairs.

This one is from SLND Penal code:

qodobka 314 ee Xeerka Ciqaabta Guud oo ah khalkhal-gelin arrimo diineed

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and this one is from SLND Constitution : Preaching matters which would divide the nation is prohibited.

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you can practice your own faith anywhere except in public and keeping it to yourself.


Regarding the Shia belief , according to the Ahlu suna wal jamaca the public of Shia sect are muslims but are ignorant of their own doctrine and are misled by their culima.
as for the the shia culima , a lot of sunna culima believe those of the shia culima who believe and advocate for teachings against al quran and authentic sunna has gone stray and some are even not considered to be part of islam.

for example:

- believing that UMO AL MOAMENEN CAYSHA رضي الله عنها Has commited a great sin is considered kuffr and rejection of ALLAH CAZAWAJAL's testemony that Sayda CAISHA UM AL MOAMEN is free of what they accused her of .

{إِنَّ الَّذِينَ جَاؤُوا بِالْإِفْكِ عُصْبَةٌ مِّنكُمْ لَا تَحْسَبُوهُ شَرًّا لَّكُم بَلْ هُوَ خَيْرٌ لَّكُمْ لِكُلِّ امْرِئٍ مِّنْهُم مَّا اكْتَسَبَ مِنَ الْإِثْمِ وَالَّذِي تَوَلَّى كِبْرَهُ مِنْهُمْ لَهُ عَذَابٌ عَظِيمٌِ}


- also, believing that the current Quran is not complete and part of it is missing ( the part that states ALI ben Abi Taleh رضي الله عنه should be the lawful successor of prophet Mohammed صلى الله عليه وسلم

- Also Believing that one of their Imams( the 12th imam) will be resurrected near the crack of doom,is kuffr as ALLAH CAZAWAJAL stated in the Quran that no human being will be resurrected after death to be among the livings again. ( here goes your reincarnation out of the window as well ya Ximaar.play ).

﴿حَتَّى إِذَا جَاءَ أَحَدَهُمُ الْمَوْتُ قَالَ رَبِّ ارْجِعُونِ (99) لَعَلِّي أَعْمَلُ صَالِحاً فِيمَا تَرَكْتُ كَلَّا إِنَّهَا كَلِمَةٌ هُوَ قَائِلُهَا وَمِنْ وَرَائِهِمْ بَرْزَخٌ إِلَى يَوْمِ يُبْعَثُونَ (100)﴾


-Also believing that visiting tombs and praying in the name of their imams or sheekhs can be as good as praying to ALLAH CAZAWAJAL.

( وَمَنْ أَضَلُّ مِمَّنْ يَدْعُو مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ مَنْ لَا يَسْتَجِيبُ لَهُ إِلَىٰ يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ وَهُمْ عَنْ دُعَائِهِمْ غَافِلُونَ )


those are few points which i can remember that I learned from sunnah scholars, which I believe its more than enough for any misled or sympathizer to open their eyes on the danger of bringing shia to our likely divisible community whether its SLND or Somalia.

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Yaa Ximaar stick to your Marxist kacan and faqash threads as thats the only place in this forum where you make sense and keep your anti-islam sentiments up ur buddist ass when you talk to it :-@

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Re: Pakistani national sentenced to 1 year jail term for spreading Shiite doctorine in Somaliland

Postby X.Playa » Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:57 pm

There is a law in SLND that prohibits any action that can lead to disturbance in religious affairs.

This one is from SLND Penal code:

qodobka 314 ee Xeerka Ciqaabta Guud oo ah khalkhal-gelin arrimo diineed

Image.

and this one is from SLND Constitution : Preaching matters which would divide the nation is prohibited.

Image

you can practice your own faith anywhere except in public and keeping it to yourself.


Regarding the Shia belief , according to the Ahlu suna wal jamaca the public of Shia sect are muslims but are ignorant of their own doctrine and are misled by their culima.
as for the the shia culima , a lot of sunna culima believe those of the shia culima who believe and advocate for teachings against al quran and authentic sunna has gone stray and some are even not considered to be part of islam.

for example:

- believing that UMO AL MOAMENEN CAYSHA رضي الله عنها Has commited a great sin is considered kuffr and rejection of ALLAH CAZAWAJAL's testemony that Sayda CAISHA UM AL MOAMEN is free of what they accused her of .

{إِنَّ الَّذِينَ جَاؤُوا بِالْإِفْكِ عُصْبَةٌ مِّنكُمْ لَا تَحْسَبُوهُ شَرًّا لَّكُم بَلْ هُوَ خَيْرٌ لَّكُمْ لِكُلِّ امْرِئٍ مِّنْهُم مَّا اكْتَسَبَ مِنَ الْإِثْمِ وَالَّذِي تَوَلَّى كِبْرَهُ مِنْهُمْ لَهُ عَذَابٌ عَظِيمٌِ}


- also, believing that the current Quran is not complete and part of it is missing ( the part that states ALI ben Abi Taleh رضي الله عنه should be the lawful successor of prophet Mohammed صلى الله عليه وسلم

- Also Believing that one of their Imams( the 12th imam) will be resurrected near the crack of doom,is kuffr as ALLAH CAZAWAJAL stated in the Quran that no human being will be resurrected after death to be among the livings again. ( here goes your reincarnation out of the window as well ya Ximaar.play ).

﴿حَتَّى إِذَا جَاءَ أَحَدَهُمُ الْمَوْتُ قَالَ رَبِّ ارْجِعُونِ (99) لَعَلِّي أَعْمَلُ صَالِحاً فِيمَا تَرَكْتُ كَلَّا إِنَّهَا كَلِمَةٌ هُوَ قَائِلُهَا وَمِنْ وَرَائِهِمْ بَرْزَخٌ إِلَى يَوْمِ يُبْعَثُونَ (100)﴾


-Also believing that visiting tombs and praying in the name of their imams or sheekhs can be as good as praying to ALLAH CAZAWAJAL.

( وَمَنْ أَضَلُّ مِمَّنْ يَدْعُو مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ مَنْ لَا يَسْتَجِيبُ لَهُ إِلَىٰ يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ وَهُمْ عَنْ دُعَائِهِمْ غَافِلُونَ )


those are few points which i can remember that I learned from sunnah scholars, which I believe its more than enough for any misled or sympathizer to open their eyes on the danger of bringing shia to our likely divisible community whether its SLND or Somalia.

PS:

Yaa Ximaar stick to your Marxist kacan and faqash threads as thats the only place in this forum where you make sense and keep your anti-islam sentiments up ur buddist ass when you talk to it :-@
Interesting how come they never apply that law to the Wahaabis and their Xanbali madahab, since Somaliland is a Sufi nation and Shaafici madhab.

kid , cilmi aanad ogayn aniga ii sheegi mayside naso.


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