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Will Habar awal pull it off and lead Isaaq after 15 years

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Is the habar awal leadership good for Somaliland

Poll ended at Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:18 pm

Yes its good and it was good they have shown great leadership
10
40%
No they should not have an attempt to lead the nation
6
24%
Yes Habar awal leadership is good but i am not sure about Moses Bihi
4
16%
They are the brightest son they should always lead us
5
20%
 
Total votes: 25

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Re: Will Habar awal pull it off and lead Isaaq after 15 years

Postby Khalid Ali » Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:06 am

reading the poll the isaaq is very satisfied with the habarawal leadership.



xildiid cigaal corrected his mistake besides it was not his fault the union happened the people wanted it and enforced it and he only carried it out. when the people wanted independence he did all in his power to make somaliland indepeneent independent created all state institution wrote down the sl consitution with his hand. created the 3 party system added the black star in the sl flag. cigaal was the best idoor politician of the 20th century may allah rest his soul. besidds xildiid u are not the one who can call out cigaal for the 1960 mistake ot that long ago u supported to be ruled by walanweyns and u believed sh dalxiis red lipped was ur president.

as for moses we shall see how he does but it looks good for him. he got ucid madasha and defeated isbhaysigi kulmiye samaale and the other bixi being fully on board.

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Re: Will Habar awal pull it off and lead Isaaq after 15 years

Postby Xildiiid » Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:29 am

Cigaal was considered incompetent by the same Colonials officers he was working for before independence because of his lack of vision and political understanding.

Read the colonial archives if you don't believe me.

Cigaal hijacked the Borama conference (he came out of nowhere) and he initiated the sub clan based civil war for a political seat and if it wasn't for his timely death he would never vacate that seat.

I believed in a united Somali republic that would safeguard the interests and wellbeing of Somali people and in an ideal world I would still support that notion.

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Re: Will Habar awal pull it off and lead Isaaq after 15 years

Postby Siciid85 » Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:06 am

There are two kinds of Isaaqs: the Isaaq fadhato ama farmers and the Isaaq Rer Guuraa or the nomads. In my understanding the HA particularly the SM belong to the fadhato or Qoti therefore I much rather have an Isaaq who hails from Rer guuraa background.

There is no way in hell a fadhato is brighter than Rer guuraa. The recent school test scores proof that Togdheer has best and brightest

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Re: Will Habar awal pull it off and lead Isaaq after 15 years

Postby Khalid Ali » Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:25 pm

@ LOL siciid not all Habarawal or sm belong to fadhato argiculture only a segment of Jibriel Abokor in the gabiley lands the majority of HA are nomads


Xildiid saaxib why do u love to discredit Cigaal of all the 3 presidents of Somaliland he has been the most significant and showed the greatest leadership are u telling me the SNL Led their least competent leader lead them makes no sense at all. Cigaal taught him self the politics of Africa he was very ambitious when he came back from UNI LONDON school of economics. Cigaal was just a better politicians than Tuur and xassan ciise jamac the SNM term ended after 2 years tuur was allowed to lead even ur uncle selebaan gaal acknowledged that we needed cigaaal to lead . Cigaal did not care much about seat or fame, or money he wanted to leave something behind and he did the Somaliland that exist today the creation of the army the police the correctional police the navy the constitution he added the red star he created the 3 party system held the last peace conference in 1997 brought the iidoor clans together in order to make them stronger. He told his sons that he ha no wealth for them all he had is one rolex watch so to say he hijacked anything he was rightfully elected in 1993 and in 1997 the guurti hadana elected him he said he wanted to resign and the guurti begged him to stay in power. if u believe in a Somali republic maxaad cigaal in 1960 ku haysata waba sheeko walan adiga xamar raba cigaal oo qalad 1960 galay na waad dhaleeceeneysa loool makes no sense cigaal was the best man for the job we needed him in the 1990s tuur would have sold us out to the hutus Somaliland taarikh fiican bay jeexday wagaas. Dimiqradiuadu silaanyo maanta ku joogo cigaal ba horseedey

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Re: Will Habar awal pull it off and lead Isaaq after 15 years

Postby original dervish » Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:37 pm

When Cigaal (aun) died so did the hope for Somalia. :(

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Re: Will Habar awal pull it off and lead Isaaq after 15 years

Postby Siciid85 » Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:40 pm

@ LOL siciid not all Habarawal or sm belong to fadhato argiculture only a segment of Jibriel Abokor in the gabiley lands the majority of HA are nomads


Xildiid saaxib why do u love to discredit Cigaal of all the 3 presidents of Somaliland he has been the most significant and showed the greatest leadership are u telling me the SNL Led their least competent leader lead them makes no sense at all. Cigaal taught him self the politics of Africa he was very ambitious when he came back from UNI LONDON school of economics. Cigaal was just a better politicians than Tuur and xassan ciise jamac the SNM term ended after 2 years tuur was allowed to lead even ur uncle selebaan gaal acknowledged that we needed cigaaal to lead . Cigaal did not care much about seat or fame, or money he wanted to leave something behind and he did the Somaliland that exist today the creation of the army the police the correctional police the navy the constitution he added the red star he created the 3 party system held the last peace conference in 1997 brought the iidoor clans together in order to make them stronger. He told his sons that he ha no wealth for them all he had is one rolex watch so to say he hijacked anything he was rightfully elected in 1993 and in 1997 the guurti hadana elected him he said he wanted to resign and the guurti begged him to stay in power. if u believe in a Somali republic maxaad cigaal in 1960 ku haysata waba sheeko walan adiga xamar raba cigaal oo qalad 1960 galay na waad dhaleeceeneysa loool makes no sense cigaal was the best man for the job we needed him in the 1990s tuur would have sold us out to the hutus Somaliland taarikh fiican bay jeexday wagaas. Dimiqradiuadu silaanyo maanta ku joogo cigaal ba horseedey
Khalid Ali I know Rer Samatar are nomadic warriors so are Ciise Muse. I am just not fond of soft spoken folks from out west.

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Re: Will Habar awal pull it off and lead Isaaq after 15 years

Postby Siciid85 » Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:41 pm

When Cigaal (aun) died so did the hope for Somalia. :(
How so?

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Re: Will Habar awal pull it off and lead Isaaq after 15 years

Postby Khalid Ali » Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:43 pm

siciid reer samatar all of xuseen abokor all makahil cismaanada reer looge ciise muse are all nomads even a large segment of jb are not farmers

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Re: Will Habar awal pull it off and lead Isaaq after 15 years

Postby original dervish » Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:47 pm

Cigaal (aun) was a unionists to his soul.
He built up s/l as a means to renegotiate the north/south power sharing agreement.
Unfortunately....there was nothing and nobody in the south.
Even today the south is full of clowns whom will be under Amisom for decades.

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Re: Will Habar awal pull it off and lead Isaaq after 15 years

Postby Siciid85 » Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:50 pm

Cigaal (aun) was a unionists to his soul.
He built up s/l as a means to renegotiate the north/south power sharing agreement.
Unfortunately....there was nothing and nobody in the south.
Even today the south is full of clowns whom will be under Amisom for decades.
Well the South can go to hell for all we care. We have sacrificed everything so we may become like normal civilized human beings, however they have instead acted like a bunch of animals.

Why should be hostage for them? Let them figure it out but we moving on

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Re: Will Habar awal pull it off and lead Isaaq after 15 years

Postby Xildiiid » Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:48 am

Why didn't Cigaal participate in the SNM struggle? He benefited from other people's struggle and on top of that he initiated a sub clan based civil war for a political seat. He considered the seat more valuable than the countless people who died a meaningless death.

The colonial officers Cigaal worked for deemed him incompetent and they knew him better than most people. It's not my words but theirs..

Salebaan Gaal begged one of my paternal uncles to participate and lead troops in the war against Abdirahman Tuur initiated by Cigaal and my uncle refused. As a result, the guurti seat that actually belonged to a close family member was instead given to Gaal for his loyalty. So no he's not my uncle. He's a useless subclanist.

I believed in a real Somali republic, not the one proposed by the UK and US as an answer to Somali nationalism, that has confined Somalis to what is now a failed state.

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Re: Will Habar awal pull it off and lead Isaaq after 15 years

Postby GabileyPrince » Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:18 pm

There are two kinds of Isaaqs: the Isaaq fadhato ama farmers and the Isaaq Rer Guuraa or the nomads. In my understanding the HA particularly the SM belong to the fadhato or Qoti therefore I much rather have an Isaaq who hails from Rer guuraa background.

There is no way in hell a fadhato is brighter than Rer guuraa. The recent school test scores proof that Togdheer has best and brightest
History has proven who is smarter.Farming people(Europe,China,Middle East and India) vs Dumb geeljires like Saudis,Mongols etc.Even the history of Somalilabd and all the great Sultanates(Land of Punt,Aksum,Ifat, and Adal) are from Awdal and Gabiley.Sit your camel piss drinking ass down and know your place you badow!

Jibril Abokr thanks to farming have had a population boom and now compruse majority of SM.Dont blame my ancestors for conquering and defending these fertile plains you wish you had!

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Re: Will Habar awal pull it off and lead Isaaq after 15 years

Postby GabileyPrince » Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:32 pm

Can someone name one civilization that reer Bari had? :russ: :pac: :umad:

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Postby Xildiiid » Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:45 pm

The frankincense terraces of Punt mentioned by the Pharaohs is most likely eastern Somaliland (Sanaag).

Frankincense trading ports mentioned by the ancient Egyptians include Karin, Xiis, Maydh as well as Bosaaso in Somalia

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Re: Will Habar awal pull it off and lead Isaaq after 15 years

Postby Timiro1999 » Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:00 pm

@ LOL siciid not all Habarawal or sm belong to fadhato argiculture only a segment of Jibriel Abokor in the gabiley lands the majority of HA are nomads


Xildiid saaxib why do u love to discredit Cigaal of all the 3 presidents of Somaliland he has been the most significant and showed the greatest leadership are u telling me the SNL Led their least competent leader lead them makes no sense at all. Cigaal taught him self the politics of Africa he was very ambitious when he came back from UNI LONDON school of economics. Cigaal was just a better politicians than Tuur and xassan ciise jamac the SNM term ended after 2 years tuur was allowed to lead even ur uncle selebaan gaal acknowledged that we needed cigaaal to lead . Cigaal did not care much about seat or fame, or money he wanted to leave something behind and he did the Somaliland that exist today the creation of the army the police the correctional police the navy the constitution he added the red star he created the 3 party system held the last peace conference in 1997 brought the iidoor clans together in order to make them stronger. He told his sons that he ha no wealth for them all he had is one rolex watch so to say he hijacked anything he was rightfully elected in 1993 and in 1997 the guurti hadana elected him he said he wanted to resign and the guurti begged him to stay in power. if u believe in a Somali republic maxaad cigaal in 1960 ku haysata waba sheeko walan adiga xamar raba cigaal oo qalad 1960 galay na waad dhaleeceeneysa loool makes no sense cigaal was the best man for the job we needed him in the 1990s tuur would have sold us out to the hutus Somaliland taarikh fiican bay jeexday wagaas. Dimiqradiuadu silaanyo maanta ku joogo cigaal ba horseedey
Cigaal xaguu ku maqnaa markii dalka laga xoreynayey?
Wadan la xoreeyey ayuu iska qabsaday, weliba dadkii xoreeyayna madfac buu ku weeraray.
Reeraha hubka iska dhigey reer waliba iyagaa is maamulay oo hubkii in yar oo dhoola tus ah iska dhigey.
Cigaal cidna muu qasbin ee dadku iyagaa dantoda gartay.


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