Turks , British and Ethiopian in somaliland 1827-1897.

[Khalid Ali]

sidamo and oromo are not lightskin

[Raganimo]

sidamo and oromo are not lightskin

Some Oromo can be light.

[Khalid Ali]

the Shewan oromo and Tulama and Wollo not the one in sidamo and Jimma they are super black

[Raganimo]

the Shewan oromo and Tulama and Wollo not the one in sidamo and Jimma they are super black

The book mentions that many were from Wollo. I'm guessing they are assimilated habeshas which is why they look different from other Oromo?

[Khalid Ali]

Shewan Oromo Girl





wollo


oromo from jimma borana

[Raganimo]

Shewan Oromo Girl





wollo

Waachis needs to hook me up with some of these fine Oromo sisters

[BigBreak]

certain oromo chicks i wanna take home tonight

[X.Playa]

Interesting posts as always.

Thanks

How is your book coming along?

Isn't going easily , the materials are massive , you have to research them to find them first , then you have to purchase them, then you have to read and sift through them , then you might not even find what you were looking for and find out they are in other archives . The British archives are not cataloged , meaning most of them are mixed materials and scattered all over the place and when purchasing them the curators are not helpful and takes weeks just to answer back , confusion , talking or e-mailing so many departments , each on of them is not responsible for the whole process only parts of it , to order a single item is hell. This what happened when I ordered some 700 pages of intelligence about the Dervish from 1902-1904.

Mon 04-18, 9:43 AM
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Iam interested in obtaining the documents tilted "Somaliland Expedition 1902-1904: Intelligence reports "
Reference: IOR/L/MIL/5/704 . I live in Canada , I need to know how large this document is , and how can I obtain it, also whether it be easier to obtain it digitally and pay for it or by mail.

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Fri 04-22, 8:39 AM

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Thank you for your enquiry.

I have had a look at the item shelved at our shelfmark/reference number IOR/L/MIL/5/704 and can tell you that the document has approximately 590 pages. Using the Imaging Services price guidelines I calculate that the cost of basic scanned digital or paper copies from the original will cost approximately £238.53 + VAT.

However we also hold a microfilm of IOR/L/MIL/5/704 (together with two smaller records IOR/L/MIL/5/702 & 703) at our shelf mark/reference IOR NEG 50634. As show on the above price list basic scanned digital or paper copies of an existing microfilm would be a much cheaper option for you at £64.85 + VAT.



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Yours sincerely,

Maureen Heath
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£64.85

Patron: Hello Muareen,



Thanks for the prompt reply , i think the second option would be the best for me. Now I live in Canada , and the next step is to tell me the method of payment and how these items will arrive to me ( am not sure if the microfilm will be sent). This is how much i calculated including the shipping ( 2.50 VAT ) plus the price of the microfilm. I want to buy this item on June 3rd , and would like an estimate of arrival too if its possible.

Thank you in advance.

Here I made the purchase and paid through my MasterCard and got a payment confirmations. for 12 days there was no reply , I checked my MasterCard 10 days later no payment was taken , I was just charged $3.99 for some transaction.

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Waited nothing happened , then I got busy and said screw it , I will order another time , life goes on. Then this e-mail.

Dear Rashid
FINAL DEMAND

It has been brought to my attention that we have not received payment for the above numbered order dated 3rd June 2016. Therefore, I would urge you to give this matter your immediate attention and contact our Customer Services Dept on 01937 546546 in order to arrange payment.

I would ask you to consider that the British Library is a non profit making organisation with charitable status and we rely on prompt settlement for goods and services which are priced at cost recovery only.

Finally, if this situation is not resolved within 14 days, the order will be terminated and we will suspend you from all British Library services which will result in you being prevented from gaining access to the Library's unrivalled collection or services at any time in the future.



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Dear Rashid

Order Number:IS16W178743P

Further to our previous e-mail dated the 24/06/2016.

Unfortunately we still do not appear to have received payment of the above order.

Can you please contact Customer Services, Account Enquiries at the British Library with the following information:

Dear Rashid

Order No IS16W178743P

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It has been brought to my attention that we have not received payment for the above numbered order dated 3rd June 2016. Therefore, I would urge you to give this matter your immediate attention and contact our Customer Services Dept on 01937 546546 in order to arrange payment.

I would ask you to consider that the British Library is a non profit making organization with charitable status and we rely on prompt settlement for goods and services which are priced at cost recovery only.

Finally, if this situation is not resolved within 14 days, the order will be terminated and we will suspend you from all British Library services which will result in you being prevented from gaining access to the Library's unrivalled collection or services at any time in the future.



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Hello,

I just don't understand why should I pay a plenty for goods I never recived! . I have made the order , the payment amount was on the card , for some strange reasons after 10 days the amount of the purchase was still in my card and nothing but $3.70 was charged into my card, I enquired of my order for almost 10 days and no reply was given : see the following exchanges:

23:23:04 2016/06/09 (GMT +0100)

Patron:

I have yet to receive an answer regarding my order on last Friday, I was enquiring about the item if it would come in the form of a CD or others, and how long it would take, and if my full payment went through??


14:02:19 2016/06/14 (GMT +0100)

Librarian:

Dear Kayse Jama

Apologies for the delayed response but I have only just returned from leave.

Please note I do not work for Imaging Services, for queries about the prices, products or delivery options provided by Imaging Services please contact the Customer Services team:

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Yours sincerely,

Maureen Heath
Asian & African Studies Reference Service
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14:02:51 2016/06/14 (GMT +0100)

Librarian:

Closed by Librarian # 142047.

The first reply I got back since the purchase of the item was this:


On behalf of apac-enquiries@bl.uk

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Dear Kayse Jama

Apologies for the delayed response but I have only just returned from leave.

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Yours sincerely,

Maureen Heath
Asian & African Studies Reference Service
The British Library

This was almost 10 days after my initial purchase , all that time despite the receipt stating the MasterCard was charged the amount remained in my card , with no reply from library and not been charged I assumed something isn't right I decided to postpone the purchase since the full amount wasn't in the MasterCard any longer for I incurred $4.00 for unknown reasons.

I will buy the mentioned item , in the next tow weeks, but I hope this time the payment goes in immediately and not some weeks later. I don't know why the payment is confirmed in your system yet it never got deducted!!

waaba extortion aan iska war hayn mid vacation ku maqan oo order kii ka seexatay iyo mid ku leh soo ciyaar lacagta hadii kale lool. Am not sure if they banned my MasterCard , I will have to find out when Iam ready to buy the materials again. That's only 1 single file out of maybe 12 I need from the national archives , never mind the Royal Geographic Society where I need some Somaliland photos from their collections and ( Percy Cox ,Vice-Consul Zaila, Somali Coast in 1893; Berbers 1894-1895;) , and then finally london's King's college for Hastign Ismay's materials. It takes, time , money , and headach.

[abdikarim86]

I see.

I wish you all the best

[theyuusuf143]

....

Do you ever requested any financial help from other people to cover the cost?

[X.Playa]

....

Do you ever requested any financial help from other people to cover the cost?

Finacial help looool are you kidding me sxb , the idoor are the most envious humanbeings I have ever met, inay isaaqu I xaasidaan mooyee isaaq wax igu kordhiyay waxan hayaa maybe 1 man . Xataa hawiye buuga waa iga caawiyeen oo yar aanu sxb nahay ayaa ii soo diray Kings College arckives oo ilaa 80 pages ah. Isaaq kuwii xataa awowyaashood Daraawiish ahaayeen ayaa iga xaasiday inay wax ila qabtaan.

[Ben Dover]

We should start a thread, perhaps in the IPG with materials you need and if any member has access to it to send it your way.

[X.Playa]

The materials are easy , every isaaq in London can get them in a week. if I in Canada can get them how come the average dude in London can't. The problem is Isaaq are intellectually lazy folks by nature.

[Khalid Ali]

xplayaa do u remember ki ciidagale eeh reer hargeysa eeh ka qarsaday gabayadi qawdhan ducaalr u contacted him few years ago and marba wu ku meer meerinaye and he had loads of archives of gabayo. ama ki la dhintay gabayadi gabay xoog. iidoorku isms cawaiyaan

[X.Playa]

I think he still alive that supreme court guy Maxamed Ommane, and the other Muuse ismaaciil guy. dadkaasi dadkoodana way la hadhaan cadow na iskama dhiciyaan. Xataa kan Boobe Yuusuf Ducaale ku dar he has the best habara wal collections and yet he worships Idaajaa and Aw jaamac lool.