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Why ain't Somaliland speaking against
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:24 pm
by SuldaanOfSanaag
The Turkish military base in Mogadishu, it will be detrimental to Somaliland peace .
They will train and most properly help Mogadishu to gain a foothold or at least try to regain Somaliland, if peace and stability comes to Mogadishu.
The Somaliland administration has to at least acknowledge the harm it could cause in the long term.
Re: Why ain't Somaliland speaking against
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:54 pm
by Xildiiid
Somaliland who? You mean the suit wearing Isaaq con artists?
Well.. Their specialty is not politics, its inter Isaaq division and they use their clan groupies oo lagu yaqaano xinka dhillooyinka. That's why no one is speaking out against Turkey.
Re: Why ain't Somaliland speaking against
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:01 pm
by Geeljire252
The Turkish military base in Mogadishu, it will be detrimental to Somaliland peace .
They will train and most properly help Mogadishu to gain a foothold or at least try to regain Somaliland, if peace and stability comes to Mogadishu.
The Somaliland administration has to at least acknowledge the harm it could cause in the long term.

Re: Why ain't Somaliland speaking against
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:07 pm
by PanSomaliNationalist
Because Somaliland wouldn't dare mess with a NATO member what do you mean

Re: Why ain't Somaliland speaking against
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:18 pm
by Xildiiid
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Re: Why ain't Somaliland speaking against
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:37 pm
by Strategic
everybody should know that somaliland thrives in the chaos of the south.some mooryan subclans are being used as cannon fodders to de-stabilize mogadishu,there is a reason why some suicide bombers are isaaq.elect me and i will deport the qaldaans.
Re: Why ain't Somaliland speaking against
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:38 pm
by original dervish
Re: Why ain't Somaliland speaking against
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:40 am
by theyuusuf143
Somaliland indirectly responded to that. Arab coalition military base is the answer. remember Egypt hates turkey . Those Egyptians are begging us every day .
Re: Why ain't Somaliland speaking against
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:56 am
by whitehartlane
The Turkish military base in Mogadishu, it will be detrimental to Somaliland peace .
They will train and most properly help Mogadishu to gain a foothold or at least try to regain Somaliland, if peace and stability comes to Mogadishu.
The Somaliland administration has to at least acknowledge the harm it could cause in the long term.
How will militias trained in Mogadishu take foothold in Hargeysa.. mind if i ask, how are they going to get there?
The Ethiopians are leaving in hordes and alshabaab will dominate the areas they vacate..forget Hargeysa first things first let the Turkish Fed militias past gaalkacyos newly built maxjar first.
Re: Why ain't Somaliland speaking against
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:27 am
by theyuusuf143
The Turkish military base in Mogadishu, it will be detrimental to Somaliland peace .
They will train and most properly help Mogadishu to gain a foothold or at least try to regain Somaliland, if peace and stability comes to Mogadishu.
The Somaliland administration has to at least acknowledge the harm it could cause in the long term.
How will militias trained in Mogadishu take foothold in Hargeysa.. mind if i ask, how are they going to get there?
The Ethiopians are leaving in hordes and alshabaab will dominate the areas they vacate..forget Hargeysa first things first let the Turkish Fed militias past gaalkacyos newly built maxjar first.
That's not what he meant. Somalia using turkey can train and empower khaatumoseeg rebels and of course puntland.
Re: Why ain't Somaliland speaking against
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:30 pm
by SuldaanOfSanaag
The Turkish military base in Mogadishu, it will be detrimental to Somaliland peace .
They will train and most properly help Mogadishu to gain a foothold or at least try to regain Somaliland, if peace and stability comes to Mogadishu.
The Somaliland administration has to at least acknowledge the harm it could cause in the long term.
How will militias trained in Mogadishu take foothold in Hargeysa.. mind if i ask, how are they going to get there?
The Ethiopians are leaving in hordes and alshabaab will dominate the areas they vacate..forget Hargeysa first things first let the Turkish Fed militias past gaalkacyos newly built maxjar first.
As Yusuf said they can indirectly or directly help Mogadishu gain some kind of foothold on Hargeisa .
We all know puntland Is part of Somalia and will assist xamar to capture Hargeisa also turkey might give Mogadishu military fund like USA does for isreal. But I know alshabab are still in Mogadishu but my friend you have to think in the long term as politic can change quickly.
But Yusuf Is right we can use the Arab coalition as some kind of leveraging.
Somaliland has to build its military , number one priority of the new government.
Re: Why ain't Somaliland speaking against
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:48 pm
by Advo
Make no mistakes, Somalia has to have strong SNA with real military grade weapons, Air Force (currently being trained in turkey) and a good navy.
Somalia is tired of wars, I really don't see the mistakes of the 80's-90's being repeated again. Arm conflicts will not solve sh!t but propel misery for decades. I believe we can Solve our political differences with beesha Issaq through sincere dialogue.
However, we need to secure the rest of the country first! We have to deal with alshabaab and other rogue militias, we have to deal with these "federal" states and corrupt politician hiding behind their qabiils that take orders from foreigners, and most of all, we have to make our neighboring countries respect our complete sovereignty.
Re: Why ain't Somaliland speaking against
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:41 pm
by BigBreak
zoomalia is finished, they're no threat to us in no way.........after all when we defeated them in the late 80s it sent them into a death spiral which is in my book justice
Re: Why ain't Somaliland speaking against
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:38 am
by Siciid85
Rather calaacal to "anternaashnaal Koomuniti", Somaliland needs to simply do the same.
Perhaps counter that by having some else that dislikes the Turks( plenty to be found) set a military base in Somaliland. It takes two to tango
Ps, Advocate sorry to disappoint you, but majority of those sent to Turkey to study way tahriiben to Mainland Europe.
Re: Why ain't Somaliland speaking against
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:07 am
by AwRastaale
There is nothing to speak about and SL voice doesn't carry any influence in any region.
SL needs to see the Turkish factor is actually a blessing in disguise.
You need to play your cards right and use Turkish foes including Arabs, Kurds and even Israelis to your advantage.
So far the Arabs made it clear they want Berbera so give them that and let them invite their Lawrence too.
Really SL has the opportunities and Turkey's presence in Mogadishu works in her favor.
To the West you need to convince them SL needs same approach as Kurdistan, at least some direct engagement.
In the same manner they limit Baghdad and under cut Ankara, we need to do the same in the Horn.
Turkey's base is a threat to the whole region including Ethiopia. For all we know the Turks could be trying to revive an Ottoman style incursion and seeds for another Ahmed Gran.
So Ethiopia has right to invite Russia too.
The region is getting hot. The Chinese and Japanese will fight over Djibouti.
SL has to be with Khaleejis and Israelis against three way war; Turks, Persians and Arab-Israelis.