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What would Somaliland gain by rejoining Somalia?

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What would Somaliland gain by rejoining Somalia?

Postby SuldaanOfSanaag » Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:43 pm

Let's for a moment think about if Somaliland decided to rejoined Somalia, What would the incentive be?

I know there are some pro unionist landers.
But I want to know what the anti Somalia snetters and southerners think.

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Re: What would Somaliland gain by rejoining Somalia?

Postby Khalid Ali » Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:53 pm

we would gain 5 things if we joined somalia


general gabre
general bahuku
suicide squads as we see in bosaaso
rotten bananas
niiko




i always wonder why people talk about joining somalia somailand would be better of joining papua new guinea an unrecognised territory in south east asia.

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Re: What would Somaliland gain by rejoining Somalia?

Postby PrinceDaadi » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:06 pm

Nothing!

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Re: What would Somaliland gain by rejoining Somalia?

Postby bromie1 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:28 pm

Let's for a moment think about if Somaliland decided to rejoined Somalia, What would the incentive be?

I know there are some pro unionist landers.
But I want to know what the anti Somalia snetters and southerners think.
Under the UN, IGAD, AU EU or ANY other country diplomatically you have not left Somalia, Somali republic, or whatever you call that god forsaken country. politically, however, the republic is dead to you and not sure if ever you will come back.

However, everyone knows IF and it's a big IF you leave, it could instantly sh**t can turn sour like south Sudan or Eritrea. Wich, in reality, is the most plausible way things will turn out.

I also believe, xamar does not want to control Hargeisa, It really doesn't. PL and the other mini-statelets are more than a mouth full. Somaliland, (i.e.the north) knows that they will be in the coming decades capital poor. By that I mean it can't get the billions needed to invest in social investments, in schools, hospitals, and welfare as the climate changes.

xamar, if and still is a big IF, get it shit sorted out and not be pimped by Arabs, USA, AU, etc. Its concern would be the symbolic attachment to the IDEAL the Somali Republic and would yield and give Hargeisa political freedom on the international stage like China and Hong Kong one country and two systems. fundamental rights and the definition of nature of being a Somali or can be Somali, xeer stuff, religion, culture, freedom of movement ( in reality to the south from the north). Somaliland would get finance from the outside IMF and world bank as a country and liability limited to it as well.
xamar would have to give some of the oil, uranium, natural gas resources to the north either directly or informs of large capital investments in infrastructure spending, that it could not get on the international market. This can be debated 70/30 40/60 50/50 etc.

over the long term Somaliland would economically be as rest of the statelets. It currently has a GDP of $1-2 billion while Somalia as a whole has $6-8 billion. Bearing in mind south-cental has for the 26years been in a perpetual civil war.
in summary, the north would need the south economically as climate change and population takes hold and the south can tell itself hold the last bastion of Somaliwenye together.

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Re: What would Somaliland gain by rejoining Somalia?

Postby Ben Dover » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:48 pm

One would think reading the fanfic above that Xamar is a charity :lol:

Speaking of climate change and its effect on Somalia, you think its hitting Somaliland hard, well, brace yourself sxb:

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I guess Somaliland should make plans for the great migration up North due to climate change.

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Re: What would Somaliland gain by rejoining Somalia?

Postby mahoka » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:08 pm

To answer your question, you must ask yourself what somaliland gained from the union in the 60s, 70s, 80s?

The simple answer is a fat zero.

Now ask what did something somalia get from the union in those aforementioned decades.
Presidents
Pms
Investment
Tax from the north
Safety net from Ethiopia ( Ethiopian airforce raided hargeisa and borama when ever there was a conflict while the south was perfectly safe)

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Re: What would Somaliland gain by rejoining Somalia?

Postby PrinceNugaalHawd » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:09 pm

In an ideal world Greater Somalia would be a great thing. but I don't believe Somalis can share anything it's better this way.

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Re: What would Somaliland gain by rejoining Somalia?

Postby JSL3000 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:44 pm

Fuk zoomalia dont your waste time on something that will never happen again.

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Re: What would Somaliland gain by rejoining Somalia?

Postby AwRastaale » Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:15 pm

The only time there will ever be some kind of union is when Africa decides to revive the EU and establish open borders between the almost 60 states.

We still need to recognise SL, West Sahara, Zanzibar and the others.

SL gains nothing from a failed entity to its south. In fact, PL region and JL may even go separate ways as the likes of JL already became an extension of Kenya's NFD.

I know you guys don't see this but I do and it's not the first time nor last time I was correct.

Let's give it another five years and Garisa will truly administer Kismayo.

RIP to Somali Republic, Yugoslavia...

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Re: What would Somaliland gain by rejoining Somalia?

Postby Bandit » Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:59 pm

The north is a desert shit hole I doubt the South gives 2 fucks about them :pac:

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Re: What would Somaliland gain by rejoining Somalia?

Postby Sahibzada » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:09 am

The north is a desert shit hole I doubt the South gives 2 fucks about them :pac:
Speak for your folks you starving drought ridden rat!

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Re: What would Somaliland gain by rejoining Somalia?

Postby fanaanYG » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:12 am

Somaliland will gain Multi front line corruption, many eats instead of one.

Bigger economy, Share of Natural resources what is in the south becomes yours and vise versa

Diversity culture, instead of getting bored of dhaanto Saylici you will gain shirib, wilsisiqo, Saar, and NIIkO for intertainments

Labour power of jereer community builders.

And many more.

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Re: What would Somaliland gain by rejoining Somalia?

Postby theyuusuf143 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:58 am

To be honest I think we will gain

Cheap Rotten bananas as Khalid said
Amisom
Alshabaab
Gangs
More corruption
More aid depedebnce
Less natiolism

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Re: What would Somaliland gain by rejoining Somalia?

Postby SuldaanOfSanaag » Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:07 am

So what's the problem the south don't want us to join them, And we don't want to join Somalia.

So u lot saying it's in Somaliland interest for the balkanisation of Somalia

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Re: What would Somaliland gain by rejoining Somalia?

Postby Ben Dover » Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:21 am

Why balkanisation? Why not simply turning the clock back to 1960?

We will have 3 Somali states (Somaliland, Somalia, Djibouti).


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