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The Dhabayaco is butthurt, I understand.

The rise of nationalist Somalilandweyne Dhulos is very troubling for you. How do you feel when your cousins prefer Idoor hegemony to sharing a state with you?

Your attempts to make this a "Mj vs Dhulos" won't work. A few handful of men enjoying women and khat in Hargeisa do not represent Dhulbahante the same way a few Isaq men in Mogadishu do not represent Isaaq. Food for thought.

Your attempts to make this a "Mj vs Dhulos" won't work. A few handful of men enjoying women and khat in Hargeisa do not represent Dhulbahante the same way a few Isaq men in Mogadishu do not represent Isaaq. Food for thought.

I am not making anything, this is the reality on the ground today.

Your own cousins would rather join us than ever share a state with you.

You have used them for years, and now they are free.

We have not harmed you when we were the victorious side of the Somali civil war, the strongest faction of what was known as Somali Republic.

We are gob like that.

Instead of taking revenge we called for a grand peace summit.

There is a reason why all of the alphabet militias have died a death with no legacy nor any semblance of glory, yet the SNM continues to be remembered and revered.

Upon Independence the world will be closely observing Somaliland, if you really think a secret Isaaq cabal is waiting until the whole world's attention is fixated on Somaliland to remove you from your land then you are an idiot.

Had we wanted we could have treated our Darods like Hawiye treated theirs Darods in the 90s. The world was not watching and SNM would have gotten no backlash. If we wanted to change the demographics of Sool and Sanaag there was nothing you could have done to stop us. You actually vacated all of Sanaag and we invited you to come back and take back your possessions.

The fact that you think Isaaq were worried about a beat up Darod in 1990 whom were getting battered by Hawiye in the south, when Isaaq by all accounts was the strongest faction in the civil war, fighting against majority of the Somali army stationed in the north, and they won, shows you have no business being part of this discussion.

In Sanaag you vacated the entire region and were invited to come back. This is unheard of in Somali history, for a subclan to vacate an entire region and for the victorious side to invite them back to resettle.

Wallahi bilaahi Isaaq are gob. Go see what the Hawiye did to you.

If you really believe we want to plant Isaaqs in your region, what exactly is stopping us now?

They lost, and were destroyed. They didn't exist outside of the Badiye in the night time. Ultimately, your desire to fight against the Somali government outweighed the care you had for innocent civilians you claimed to fight for, and in the end both your movement and your people were destroyed. You were not a significant faction in the civil war until after Siad Barre was toppled.

A peace treaty was signed between Dhulbahante and HJ seperately whilst the HY tried to continue fighting. Ultimately, they were likewise defeated and forced into peace talks with us. There was not a single soul living inside Ceerigabo, so did we force you to also vacate the region? Or how about when in 1990, we forced you to go back to your mountains?

You simply cannot plant Isaaq's in our region because you're sole existence in our region is based on goodwill. You entered our regions due to our conflict with Majerteen because we saw you as a lesser evil in the short term. Once that notation is removed, you'll likewise be removed.

They lost, and were destroyed. They didn't exist outside of the Badiye in the night time. Ultimately, your desire to fight against the Somali government outweighed the care you had for innocent civilians you claimed to fight for, and in the end both your movement and your people were destroyed. You were not a significant faction in the civil war until after Siad Barre was toppled.

We have gone over this many times in this forum.

By all accounts, the strongest faction of the civil war was the SNM. The most mechanised units of the Somali army were stationed in Isaaq territory, it was all inherited by the SNM. This is why both of your garaads once summoned came to the peace summit That is why they signed and accepted the declaration of independence.

A peace treaty was signed between Dhulbahante and HJ seperately whilst the HY tried to continue fighting. Ultimately, they were likewise defeated and forced into peace talks with us. There was not a single soul living inside Ceerigabo, so did we force you to also vacate the region? Or how about when in 1990, we forced you to go back to your mountains?

Ceerigaabo was vacated when SNM was fighting against the Somali army, not you. And even when we were fighting the army, we did not vacate the region. But you have vacated the entire region for fear of Isaaq, specifically HY, despite Afweyne arming you to the teeth. This has never happened in Somali history, for a subclan to vacate an entire region.

And the victorious side, invited you to come back to the region, this too never happened in Somali history.

The fact that you think we want to plant people in the region when we did not do it after you vacated the whole region is enough of a rebuttal.

You simply cannot plant Isaaq's in our region because you're sole existence in our region is based on goodwill. You entered our regions due to our conflict with Majerteen because we saw you as a lesser evil in the short term. Once that notation is removed, you'll likewise be removed.

Delusional.

You are linked to us whether you like it or not. Your 'president' is telling you this. The IC is telling you this.

You can simply never escape the gravitational pull of Isaaq. Whether you cooperate or not is your prerogative, we are willing to give you a fair handshake, but make no mistake about it, Somalilandweyne is here to stay.

Somalilandiid qurjiile should learn from Las Anod people.

See that is the difference between us and you. Your whole outlook on life and politics is shaped by Isaaq, literally everything you do has a connection to Isaaq, even the single day out of the year where you decide to clean your tuulos

Isaaq on the other hand, including your neighbours, see you as an afterthought.

As I said, the way you vacated an entire region has never happened in the history of Somali conflict. You had the Somali army on your side. You just took off and left everything, poor Afweyne armed you as well.

But we invited you back to your lands out of gobonimo. And even then, how long did it take your people to actually come back?

And you are not one bit thankful.

Same with the dam, on one hand you are begging and happy we will build you a dam, and with the same breath you are scheming against us.

Qurjiile's difficult relationship with Isaaq:

The Dhabayaco is butthurt, I understand.

The rise of nationalist Somalilandweyne Dhulos is very troubling for you. How do you feel when your cousins prefer Idoor hegemony to sharing a state with you?

Ben the qurjiile karbasher