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Re: Which country will recognise Somaliland first?

Postby SultanOrder » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:24 pm

I believe there's few countries who are likely to recognise Somaliland first like the UAE, Sweden or Britain but I truly believe it should came from africa first ,when Dahir rayaale was President he use to go all over the continent to reach out to african head of states for support in the african union like zambia angola and many other.

Somaliland deserves Independence becos majority of the people support it and second of all its fully govering itself with police, army and legislation assembly. Thirdly it was already a country in 1960 when it gained independence from uk with over 30 countries recognizing it.

We need to restart the momentum on recognition issue so we can drive the economy and built the infrastructure of the country.



We done the hardest part now we need to establish foreign relations for trade , security and political engagement.


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The issue for Somaliland is that it is in Africa and in Africa where there are a million different secessionist movements and a million more potential movements no one wants to open that can of worms. Are you saying UK, Sweden, UAE have such large invested interest in SL that they would be willing to unilaterally recognize SL? What African country would recognize SL?

No one does you favors from the goodness of their heart, no matter how much they sympathize with you. You are basically saying go against the World Order, open myself up to internal succession.

SL needs to wake up and start working with the Federal Government of Somalia. You guys could have basically been a Taiwan if you were smarter and more savy. SL could have been the single most powerful force within the Federal structure, but you guys never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Everyday Federal States grow strong, pretty soon SL will just be another Federal State instead of The Federal State.

Personally I hope idoor continue on this dead mission, the longer they stick their heads in the sand, the less bargaining chips they will have.

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Re: Which country will recognise Somaliland first?

Postby JSL3000 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:12 am

I believe there's few countries who are likely to recognise Somaliland first like the UAE, Sweden or Britain but I truly believe it should came from africa first ,when Dahir rayaale was President he use to go all over the continent to reach out to african head of states for support in the african union like zambia angola and many other.

Somaliland deserves Independence becos majority of the people support it and second of all its fully govering itself with police, army and legislation assembly. Thirdly it was already a country in 1960 when it gained independence from uk with over 30 countries recognizing it.

We need to restart the momentum on recognition issue so we can drive the economy and built the infrastructure of the country.



We done the hardest part now we need to establish foreign relations for trade , security and political engagement.


:sland: :up:
The issue for Somaliland is that it is in Africa and in Africa where there are a million different secessionist movements and a million more potential movements no one wants to open that can of worms. Are you saying UK, Sweden, UAE have such large invested interest in SL that they would be willing to unilaterally recognize SL? What African country would recognize SL?

No one does you favors from the goodness of their heart, no matter how much they sympathize with you. You are basically saying go against the World Order, open myself up to internal succession.

SL needs to wake up and start working with the Federal Government of Somalia. You guys could have basically been a Taiwan if you were smarter and more savy. SL could have been the single most powerful force within the Federal structure, but you guys never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Everyday Federal States grow strong, pretty soon SL will just be another Federal State instead of The Federal State.

Personally I hope idoor continue on this dead mission, the longer they stick their heads in the sand, the less bargaining chips they will have.
Your argument is weak because eritrea and south sudan were separatist states but somaliland case is not about succession but dissolution of a union between state of somaliland the Italian zoomalia so make sure get facts straight before start talking out your futo madobe.

Unlike eritrea and south sudan which were separatist movements had to negotiate with the nation they succeeded from somaliland was never part of Italian zoomalia but dissolved a union.

1960 no union was ever signed and 1969 the somali republic ceast to exist.

Somaliland has strong legal case that's why doofaar darood and brain dead hutu are aware of this and masquerade with false label of succession.

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Re: Which country will recognise Somaliland first?

Postby Jaamacbuuhoodle » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:59 am

I believe there's few countries who are likely to recognise Somaliland first like the UAE, Sweden or Britain but I truly believe it should came from africa first ,when Dahir rayaale was President he use to go all over the continent to reach out to african head of states for support in the african union like zambia angola and many other.

Somaliland deserves Independence becos majority of the people support it and second of all its fully govering itself with police, army and legislation assembly. Thirdly it was already a country in 1960 when it gained independence from uk with over 30 countries recognizing it.

We need to restart the momentum on recognition issue so we can drive the economy and built the infrastructure of the country.



We done the hardest part now we need to establish foreign relations for trade , security and political engagement.


:sland: :up:
The issue for Somaliland is that it is in Africa and in Africa where there are a million different secessionist movements and a million more potential movements no one wants to open that can of worms. Are you saying UK, Sweden, UAE have such large invested interest in SL that they would be willing to unilaterally recognize SL? What African country would recognize SL?

No one does you favors from the goodness of their heart, no matter how much they sympathize with you. You are basically saying go against the World Order, open myself up to internal succession.

SL needs to wake up and start working with the Federal Government of Somalia. You guys could have basically been a Taiwan if you were smarter and more savy. SL could have been the single most powerful force within the Federal structure, but you guys never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Everyday Federal States grow strong, pretty soon SL will just be another Federal State instead of The Federal State.

Personally I hope idoor continue on this dead mission, the longer they stick their heads in the sand, the less bargaining chips they will have.
Your argument is weak because eritrea and south sudan were separatist states but somaliland case is not about succession but dissolution of a union between state of somaliland the Italian zoomalia so make sure get facts straight before start talking out your futo madobe.

Unlike eritrea and south sudan which were separatist movements had to negotiate with the nation they succeeded from somaliland was never part of Italian zoomalia but dissolved a union.

1960 no union was ever signed and 1969 the somali republic ceast to exist.

Somaliland has strong legal case that's why doofaar darood and brain dead hutu are aware of this and masquerade with false label of succession.
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Waligeenba UK , UAE , Ethiopia ku carara wax faaiido ah keenay mayso oooohhh waan ilaaway Ethiopia waa la idinka soo xidhay ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Re: Which country will recognise Somaliland first?

Postby theyuusuf143 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:15 am

I believe there's few countries who are likely to recognise Somaliland first like the UAE, Sweden or Britain but I truly believe it should came from africa first ,when Dahir rayaale was President he use to go all over the continent to reach out to african head of states for support in the african union like zambia angola and many other.

Somaliland deserves Independence becos majority of the people support it and second of all its fully govering itself with police, army and legislation assembly. Thirdly it was already a country in 1960 when it gained independence from uk with over 30 countries recognizing it.

We need to restart the momentum on recognition issue so we can drive the economy and built the infrastructure of the country.



We done the hardest part now we need to establish foreign relations for trade , security and political engagement.


:sland: :up:
The issue for Somaliland is that it is in Africa and in Africa where there are a million different secessionist movements and a million more potential movements no one wants to open that can of worms. Are you saying UK, Sweden, UAE have such large invested interest in SL that they would be willing to unilaterally recognize SL? What African country would recognize SL?

No one does you favors from the goodness of their heart, no matter how much they sympathize with you. You are basically saying go against the World Order, open myself up to internal succession.

SL needs to wake up and start working with the Federal Government of Somalia. You guys could have basically been a Taiwan if you were smarter and more savy. SL could have been the single most powerful force within the Federal structure, but you guys never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Everyday Federal States grow strong, pretty soon SL will just be another Federal State instead of The Federal State.

Personally I hope idoor continue on this dead mission, the longer they stick their heads in the sand, the less bargaining chips they will have.
Taiwan does not work with China. And Somalia is not like China. You are weaker than me militarily and and economically I have no reason to show you any respect as long as I am strong. This is Africa and the only bargaining chip is the barrel of the gun . Close your eyes for a minute do you see any hope that Somalia national armed forces will one day in the future take control of hargeisa by force? If you don't have that vission then you are day dreaming that somaliland will politically surrender to the amisom bunker. Hahahaha

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Re: Which country will recognise Somaliland first?

Postby theyuusuf143 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:15 am

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Re: Which country will recognise Somaliland first?

Postby mahoka » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:22 pm

Kkkkk I always see qurjile kids crying in these types of threads, your colonisation will continue for the rest of the foreseeable future kids. Somalia wonโ€™t save you from idoor ownership

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Re: Which country will recognise Somaliland first?

Postby JSL3000 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:06 pm

The issue for Somaliland is that it is in Africa and in Africa where there are a million different secessionist movements and a million more potential movements no one wants to open that can of worms. Are you saying UK, Sweden, UAE have such large invested interest in SL that they would be willing to unilaterally recognize SL? What African country would recognize SL?

No one does you favors from the goodness of their heart, no matter how much they sympathize with you. You are basically saying go against the World Order, open myself up to internal succession.

SL needs to wake up and start working with the Federal Government of Somalia. You guys could have basically been a Taiwan if you were smarter and more savy. SL could have been the single most powerful force within the Federal structure, but you guys never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Everyday Federal States grow strong, pretty soon SL will just be another Federal State instead of The Federal State.

Personally I hope idoor continue on this dead mission, the longer they stick their heads in the sand, the less bargaining chips they will have.
Your argument is weak because eritrea and south sudan were separatist states but somaliland case is not about succession but dissolution of a union between state of somaliland the Italian zoomalia so make sure get facts straight before start talking out your futo madobe.

Unlike eritrea and south sudan which were separatist movements had to negotiate with the nation they succeeded from somaliland was never part of Italian zoomalia but dissolved a union.

1960 no union was ever signed and 1969 the somali republic ceast to exist.

Somaliland has strong legal case that's why doofaar darood and brain dead hutu are aware of this and masquerade with false label of succession.
Xaqiiqda jirta ee dameer iidoor (( waa inta gooni goosadka ah iyo habar awal + xaarka buddha )) ,, iska indha tirayo waa gobolada waqooyiga Somalia : awdal , Sool , sanaag , koonfurta togdheer marna ka go'ay mayso Somalila lolz
Waligeenba UK , UAE , Ethiopia ku carara wax faaiido ah keenay mayso oooohhh waan ilaaway Ethiopia waa la idinka soo xidhay ๐Ÿ˜‚

Xataa maamulka hargeysa khasab buu ku imaan doona Xamar ama wada hadalba jiri mayso
Is dhiiba reer hargeysow oo umadda dhinac ka raaca ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Re: Which country will recognise Somaliland first?

Postby original dervish » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:18 pm

This is as good as its gonna get for s/l........from here the only way is down. :) :up:

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Re: Which country will recognise Somaliland first?

Postby Khalid Ali » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:12 pm

Somaliland recognition will come one way or The other I think it will be one of the African countries to be brave to recognise Somaliland it will happen. The biggest losers will be daarood .even today Somaliland waxkamaqani majirto only that seat at the U.N. mooyane eh but no one dares us we have The strongest military no one fuck with us. Wala qurjiile wala garowe wala dowlada taagtadaran eeh xamar.

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Re: Which country will recognise Somaliland first?

Postby Khalid Ali » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:15 pm

Obviously we oppose secessionism.......however a recognised s/l would not be a disaster for us.

It's your biggest disaster because you will be a very small small small fish in a Isaaq ocean. Or the fish wasakhgali. I mean you would be so small and irrelevant 6 kursi baadkaheli I guess even if you guys voted.

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Re: Which country will recognise Somaliland first?

Postby SuldaanOfSanaag » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:41 am

I believe there's few countries who are likely to recognise Somaliland first like the UAE, Sweden or Britain but I truly believe it should came from africa first ,when Dahir rayaale was President he use to go all over the continent to reach out to african head of states for support in the african union like zambia angola and many other.

Somaliland deserves Independence becos majority of the people support it and second of all its fully govering itself with police, army and legislation assembly. Thirdly it was already a country in 1960 when it gained independence from uk with over 30 countries recognizing it.

We need to restart the momentum on recognition issue so we can drive the economy and built the infrastructure of the country.



We done the hardest part now we need to establish foreign relations for trade , security and political engagement.


:sland: :up:
The issue for Somaliland is that it is in Africa and in Africa where there are a million different secessionist movements and a million more potential movements no one wants to open that can of worms. Are you saying UK, Sweden, UAE have such large invested interest in SL that they would be willing to unilaterally recognize SL? What African country would recognize SL?

No one does you favors from the goodness of their heart, no matter how much they sympathize with you. You are basically saying go against the World Order, open myself up to internal succession.

SL needs to wake up and start working with the Federal Government of Somalia. You guys could have basically been a Taiwan if you were smarter and more savy. SL could have been the single most powerful force within the Federal structure, but you guys never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Everyday Federal States grow strong, pretty soon SL will just be another Federal State instead of The Federal State.

Personally I hope idoor continue on this dead mission, the longer they stick their heads in the sand, the less bargaining chips they will have.
Countries don't care about africa except when thry have self interests and how can we work with the Federal goverment when they cant even cooperate on the air space, The truth no1 can work with somalia even look at the UN ambassador who got kick out for rasing a reasonable question. Somaliland has acheievd all it set out to do escept for recognition and it will carry on to seek it.

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Re: Which country will recognise Somaliland first?

Postby SuldaanOfSanaag » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:31 am

This is as good as its gonna get for s/l........from here the only way is down. :) :up:
You have been saying this for a long time. But time after time Somaliland keeps on making progress while mogdishu gets into a deep hole with foriegn owership of its port, airport? fishing trawlers, oil mining.

Somaliland has built its framwork from since inception from abdarahman tuur to egal to riyaale to silaanyo to musa shaani each and every president has taken it a bit further to self sustainable.

Now Somaliland exports so much like drinks soda, frankincence, gold ,minerals, poultry and eggs, livestock, leather, fish, then it did before. Somaliland is acheiving much more then security and peace.

Forget Dp world and genel energy and all them multi million investment. What the Landers did for themselve is more remarkable then any other person/Company could achieve. Self reliance and self achievment is more paramount to Us.

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Re: Which country will recognise Somaliland first?

Postby original dervish » Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:00 am

Ok now for a reality check.

s/l is a region constantly on the brink of war, drought .
Govt services are none existant. There is probably less than a dozen doctors in the entire north. Unemployment and drug abuse are at astronomical levels.Young people would rather take their chances with Libyan slave traders and leaky boats than remain in the region.

I could go on and on...... but hey the south is f*@ked so we're good.

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Re: Which country will recognise Somaliland first?

Postby original dervish » Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:00 am

Ok now for a reality check.

s/l is a region constantly on the brink of war, drought .
Govt services are none existant. There is probably less than a dozen doctors in the entire north. Unemployment and drug abuse are at astronomical levels.Young people would rather take their chances with Libyan slave traders and leaky boats than remain in the region.

I could go on and on...... but hey the south is f*@ked so we're good.

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Re: Which country will recognise Somaliland first?

Postby SuldaanOfSanaag » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:01 pm

Ok now for a reality check.



s/l is a region constantly on the brink of war, drought .
Govt services are none existant. There is probably less than a dozen doctors in the entire north. Unemployment and drug abuse are at astronomical levels.Young people would rather take their chances with Libyan slave traders and leaky boats than remain in the region.

I could go on and on...... but hey the south is f*@ked so we're good.
War? I'm from the eastern sanaag no war going on there mate and we support caare but he aswell wants a peaceful outcome. Hes more pro Somaliland then you think.

On the other things all of those things you mention could be true for any africa country, Somaliland is no exception. Drought is cause by lack of rain and we ask Allah swt to bring us rain. The goverment is constructing catchment to store water like xumbaweyn. You mentioned employment aswell that i don't not doubt and it could improve more and we already see multiple Companies starting up employing thousand of uni graduate to add aswell current companies like dahabshiil and Telesom. You mention Qaad ehich prevail in all of Somali and its widespread again Somaliland is not exception.


Now i know you but hurt by Somaliland improving each time and that you get upset when progress after progress is achieved. :ehh: but who can blame you.


I'm will conclude that everything is not rosey and alot more could be achieved and that's the goal Somaliland goverment has set it self. Soon the berbera corridor will start which will improve connectivity via wajali to ethiopia.


At the moment Somaliland has the highest Goverment budget then the rest or Somalia

That means more revenue and expenditure for the government


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