Ina dhabeeye speaks Ciidagale elders reject hy elders vs somaliland govt

[Timiro1999]

Anigu waan iska daayey inan ku jawaabo.
Ilaahay dembigaaga ha dhaafo.
Ngo ma shaqaad uga bahantahay waanku arrangereyn doona inshallah anigu daan daan kama fekiro. All somaliland citizen inay quruxbadnasan baan jecelahay. Do you really think walanweyn and darood know the difference between isxaaaq care and their sacad muse neighbors. Qabyaalada heerkaasi ma wanaagsana.

Horta hadad ii jawaabtid iyo hadii kale macno badan ma samaynayso mihiimadaydu waa inaan anigu qoro waxaan doonayo.

ILLAAHAY ayaan ka magan saday in aan NGO'S shaqo u doonto oo weliba aan cadaw u baahdo inay iga waasteyan.
ILLAAHAYOW cadaw ha ii baahin
NGO'S adigaba kuma dhaafto reerihiina arrange garee.

[Khalid Ali]

Adiga quotegereyey anigu kulamaba hadal anigu. Inaadeerka kaliil uunbanu ereyo is weydaarsanay.

[kaliil]

[quote=Timiro1999

Kaliilow indr reer HJ ah ayaa guri naga kireystay xaafada oo dhan waxay u yaqaanen HJ da.
Cidi may u dhaafin jirin weligey qof HJ ii sheegtey yaad ka tahay maan ku odhan xoog badanaa qofka sii wareysanayaa
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Timiro inader yuusuf waa iska badow markaa hadalkiisa waxba lagamasoo qaado. Reerkooda isaxaaq baa ka caansan oo la yaqaanaa.isaxaaq inay garxajis ama hy sheegtaan iskaba daaye iyagaa 3 reer usii kala baxa oo weliba hoos ugasii daadega.ilaa iyo hadda isaaqa kale hj ma kala yaqaanaan oo cidii hj sheegata halkaa looma dhaafo.aniguba hadii isaaqa kale hj u sheegto intaa la ii dhaafimaayo oo cid isaaq ahayn ayaa xiitaa ku dhex dhuuman karta sida ninkaaba berigaa sayidku ugula taliyay inuu hj sheegto.

[skywalker25]

[quote=Timiro1999

Kaliilow indr reer HJ ah ayaa guri naga kireystay xaafada oo dhan waxay u yaqaanen HJ da.
Cidi may u dhaafin jirin weligey qof HJ ii sheegtey yaad ka tahay maan ku odhan xoog badanaa qofka sii wareysanayaa

Timiro inader yuusuf waa iska badow markaa hadalkiisa waxba lagamasoo qaado. Reerkooda isaxaaq baa ka caansan oo la yaqaanaa.isaxaaq inay garxajis ama hy sheegtaan iskaba daaye iyagaa 3 reer usii kala baxa oo weliba hoos ugasii daadega.ilaa iyo hadda isaaqa kale hj ma kala yaqaanaan oo cidii hj sheegata halkaa looma dhaafo.aniguba hadii isaaqa kale hj u sheegto intaa la ii dhaafimaayo oo cid isaaq ahayn ayaa xiitaa ku dhex dhuuman karta sida ninkaaba berigaa sayidku ugula taliyay inuu hj sheegto.
[/quote]

And what did this great siyad say about your HY.

You guys have developed this new found love for all things Darod. Ma HJ iyo SM ya Isaaq idinka saaray?

Everybody knows the history of HY and why they are found in enclaves all over Isaaq regions. And it’s to do with your Reer Sugulle. Today waxad u wada heshisan waa isaaqa kala na neceb.


Imaanyso HY

“Isxaaq waxuu ununufaa, uurku-taalada'e
Bal eegoo Afmeer bay galbeed, uga arooraane
Markay idin arkaan geelashaa, uubka loo ridi'
Iman mayso Habar Yoonistaad u alwanaysaane !

Awal raace Muuse Cabadlana, odayadoodiiye
Waa aawadiin waxa ku furay, Awdal iyo Shiikhe
Haduu gugu Aboorray ka da'o, ay ma soo galo'e
Iman mayso Habar Yoonistaad u alwanaysaane !“

[X.Playa]

Easier said than done.....the ha/hj alliance is political, economical and military that has been years in the making.

It would make more sense for the hy to forge new political alliances of themselves.

Wadani lost the election by about 200,000 votes....that's with minimal Harti participation. They got less than half of the Gadurbursi and not even all the Ciidagale.
Ciise too are up for grabs.

So it doesnt take a genius to realise Wadani could defeat the ha/hj alliance if they're able to broaden their support base beyond a single subclan.

There's no way any clan other then the two duo's can win in this clan rigged system. First the Kulmiye clan reintroduced clan ship back into politics and revived the tactics and language of the civil war by constantly depicting Wadani as an anti Somaliland pro Somalia Trojans. It's straight from Cigaals book .

Once the gini tribalism is out of the battle it's hard to put it back , thanks to dirty tactics the old tribal lines are now drawn. Arab and Ciidagale have no choice but to join the hy and revive the old genealogy.

Pro Biixi fanatics like Khalid would known all those facts and the causes of them with sstraight face absolve his clan and urge Wadani to participate in the futile rigged system knowing fully well the end resul

SL politics is so clannish now then I'd say anytime in the last 20 years and the only solution is for the architect of this fitna to foresee the looming doom.

[X.Playa]

[quote=Timiro1999

Kaliilow indr reer HJ ah ayaa guri naga kireystay xaafada oo dhan waxay u yaqaanen HJ da.
Cidi may u dhaafin jirin weligey qof HJ ii sheegtey yaad ka tahay maan ku odhan xoog badanaa qofka sii wareysanayaa

Timiro inader yuusuf waa iska badow markaa hadalkiisa waxba lagamasoo qaado. Reerkooda isaxaaq baa ka caansan oo la yaqaanaa.isaxaaq inay garxajis ama hy sheegtaan iskaba daaye iyagaa 3 reer usii kala baxa oo weliba hoos ugasii daadega.ilaa iyo hadda isaaqa kale hj ma kala yaqaanaan oo cidii hj sheegata halkaa looma dhaafo.aniguba hadii isaaqa kale hj u sheegto intaa la ii dhaafimaayo oo cid isaaq ahayn ayaa xiitaa ku dhex dhuuman karta sida ninkaaba berigaa sayidku ugula taliyay inuu hj sheegto.

And what did this great siyad say about your HY.

You guys have developed this new found love for all things Darod. Ma HJ iyo SM ya Isaaq idinka saaray?

Everybody knows the history of HY and why they are found in enclaves all over Isaaq regions. And it’s to do with your Reer Sugulle. Today waxad u wada heshisan waa isaaqa kala na neceb.


Imaanyso HY

“Isxaaq waxuu ununufaa, uurku-taalada'e
Bal eegoo Afmeer bay galbeed, uga arooraane
Markay idin arkaan geelashaa, uubka loo ridi'
Iman mayso Habar Yoonistaad u alwanaysaane !

Awal raace Muuse Cabadlana, odayadoodiiye
Waa aawadiin waxa ku furay, Awdal iyo Shiikhe
Haduu gugu Aboorray ka da'o, ay ma soo galo'e
Iman mayso Habar Yoonistaad u alwanaysaane !“
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Do you really believe Su h fairytale that reer sugulle a small sub Sub Sub Sub Sub Sub clan could chase the Isxaaq and disperse them? The Isxaaq are10 to 30 times the sizes of sugulle.

[Khalid Ali]

I do support that we change the commission and create a new fair balance one for the sake of democracy. How ever our society is very tribal not because they have to. But because of the limited resources in the country. The elections are very tribal. Its not that much in hargeisa but in burco and else wear. Because hargeisa is the capital. Nin walba naftisu u orda aroorti. The reason why the sentiment is clanish these days is very simple siillaanyo xirsi and others dadkay iskajeedin jireen allot of cash flow in the country. This has stopped. Dalka lacag ba kala furfurta and its not happening.

[SuldaanOfSanaag]

The problem with kulmiye goverment is they bias.
Normal Government exists to protect us from each other. On the other hand Musabiixi and Co are making it
blatant not even conceling it

Kulmiye is a introvert and instead of been extrovert. Creating a problem that is unconsciously or consciously bais

But the whole time we taking Notes: of everything!

[kaliil]

[quote=X.Playa

And what did this great siyad say about your HY.

You guys have developed this new found love for all things Darod. Ma HJ iyo SM ya Isaaq idinka saaray?

Everybody knows the history of HY and why they are found in enclaves all over Isaaq regions. And it’s to do with your Reer Sugulle. Today waxad u wada heshisan waa isaaqa kala na neceb.


Imaanyso HY

“Isxaaq waxuu ununufaa, uurku-taalada'e
Bal eegoo Afmeer bay galbeed, uga arooraane
Markay idin arkaan geelashaa, uubka loo ridi'
Iman mayso Habar Yoonistaad u alwanaysaane !

Awal raace Muuse Cabadlana, odayadoodiiye
Waa aawadiin waxa ku furay, Awdal iyo Shiikhe
Haduu gugu Aboorray ka da'o, ay ma soo galo'e
Iman mayso Habar Yoonistaad u alwanaysaane !“
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Do you really believe Su h fairytale that reer sugulle a small sub Sub Sub Sub Sub Sub clan could chase the Isxaaq and disperse them? The Isxaaq are10 to 30 times the sizes of sugulle.
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Cid isaxaaq eryatay ma jirto oo habar yoonista galbeed ayay isku deegaan yihiin.waqooyiga degmada oodweyne laga bilaabo ilaa hargeysa ayay degenyihiin xaga galbeedkana hargeysa ilaa daroor.dad deeganada kala aqoon baa moodaya inay isaxaaq deegaan habar awal degenyihiin

[Nomand]

What's next for habar yoonis?, asking for ciidan gale for help was a non starter, ciidangale would never risk themselves like that.

Alliance with dhulbahante?

[original dervish]

Errrm.....I don't think so.
This is a purely iidoor affair.

[theyuusuf143]

Errrm.....I don't think so.
This is a purely iidoor affair.

No it's not , it's one small clan against the state, any one who is causing instability is against your interests , today they are against us tomorrow they gonna fk with you in sanaag. Never stay away from iidoor affairs , because it's gonna effect you in one way or the other.

[kaliil]

[quote=theyuusuf143

No it's not , it's one small clan against the state, any one who is causing instability is against your interests , today they are against us tomorrow they gonna fk with you in sanaag. Never stay away from iidoor affairs , because it's gonna effect you in one way or the other.
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Ma waxad rabtaa inay dhulbahante habar yoonis kaa difaacaan . Fulaysanidaa

[original dervish]

Yusef.....your right instability will affect all of us negatively.

My point was that this can only be solved by iidoors.....as it is they who are at loggerheads, not Dhullos, Samaroon, Ciise or Warsengeli.

Xplaya....explain how the system is rigged.....as I don't see a problem with clans forming a political alliance.

The hy are free to form there own alliance's....as is every other sl clan.

[X.Playa]

Yusef.....your right instability will affect all of us negatively.

My point was that this can only be solved by iidoors.....as it is they who are at loggerheads, not Dhullos, Samaroon, Ciise or Warsengeli.

Xplaya....explain how the system is rigged.....as I don't see a problem with clans forming a political alliance.

The hy are free to form there own alliance's....as is every other sl clan.

No habar Awal and habar jeclo didn't form political alliance, they revived the civil war alliance and use civil war rhetoric calling HY SL diid, that is the civil war without the bullets.

The system is rigged in that the commission is in the hand of these civil war faction, the court, police and Gurti are in the hand of a single faction. So how do you expect any other groups or clan to challenge this system.