yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.

[theyuusuf143]

Imam Ahmed you brought the argument of poems bring the poems and we will explain these poems no isaaq ever claimed to be dir or darood or hawiye. Apart from the prostitute that are in xamar as dirty woqoyis.

We don't need your explanation because we are in control of your destiny , armed with great evidences which shows that the small iidoor clan of somaliland are part and parcel of the Dir empire. I am isaaq you can quarrel with the other Dir but not me . The entire somaliland leadership believe in Dir , only peasants like you still believe that you are the bastard child of an old arab saint with a holy ceeb that can produce 3 million people out of naked african girls .

[dalalos101]

With all due respect Xildiid, and this goes for your KowJow cousin above who completely misinterpreted that groupw testing he brought;

You are neither a geneticist, nor a historian, nor an anthropologist.

You should realize the limitations of your knowledge on this issue.

And generally, you are heavily motivated by political considerations (I am most closely related to Sicilians and Sheekh hebel ruler of Emirates--ilaahayow may ku maqlaan) which is behind your (and I am not trying to insult you) lack of confidence. Even this emphasis that J1 or Semities formed in Africa or even your almost petty regurgitation not all the Ethio Semitic-speakers are J1 is another manifestation iskuma kalsoonid as E-V32.

Somehow you still subscribe nobility to near east than your own Africa. That's really the underlying motivation.

War anigu nin Soomaali aha baan ahay who is Black and proud to be bonafide indigenous Black African descent. Carab iyo yahuud iyo Sicilians xaarkooda ha cunaan haday rabaan

That's a general conclusion on my part as a response to your completely typical over blowing of small J1 cariers. Southern Ethiopia is not even remote. It's flat grassland that's been traversed by everyone. What's actually remote are the Amxaaro and Tigree villages and churches way up in the mountains no one can climb. If there are small j1 carriers among the conquered of Ethiopia, we all known what happens when rape and genetic displacement occur.

I have already mentioned African Americans, but in more recent times, by some estimates, the Russians raped 1/3 of German women under their control after the defeat of Nazis. Please go locate all that displaced Germanic bloodline that is now teeming with Russian/Slavic Y-DNA. This has been happening in Abbysinia over a 1000 year long Habesh domination is not a farfetchdd idea.

In general, I just smell insecurity for being a Black African indigenous E3b carrier when throughout history we have subscribed nobility to outside Africa, near Eastern Arab origins.

You will see what I see when I read your posts on this later if you come to accept and be proud of who you are.

So I’m the one pushing a narrative?

R1 and J1 have been in Africa since the Neolithic. This is a fact wether you like it or not. Also the majority of Habeshas are Cushites who shifted to South Semitic languages. A minority among them carry South Semitic paternal lineages while all Habeshas irrespective of their paternal haplogroup carry South Semitic autosomal DNA (around 10-15%).

The idea that they spread J1 through rape is ridiculous.

My closest non Somali paternal relatives based on genetics i.e T-MRCA (time to most recent common ancestor) happen to be the Bani Malik clan in UAE/Iraq/Kuwait specifically the Al-Ali subclan followed by some Ashkenaz Jews and south Europeans (Sicilians, Italians, Greek) etc.

This does not mean I’m not Somali because my autosomal DNA is Somali.

You should stop being insecure.

J haplogroup originates in Caucasus fuck outta here laangaab imported khazarian slave, we do not follow the mother line nor do we care of your admixture, your not from the same ancestry as majority of Somalis, J haplogroup is even smaller than the T haplogroup

[dalalos101]

Imam Ahmed you brought the argument of poems bring the poems and we will explain these poems no isaaq ever claimed to be dir or darood or hawiye. Apart from the prostitute that are in xamar as dirty woqoyis.

We don't need your explanation because we are in control of your destiny , armed with great evidences which shows that the small iidoor clan of somaliland are part and parcel of the Dir empire. I am isaaq you can quarrel with the other Dir but not me . The entire somaliland leadership believe in Dir , only peasants like you still believe that you are the bastard child of an old arab saint with a holy ceeb that can produce 3 million people out of naked african girls .

LMAO ! From Arab daddy to Dir daddy, identity crisis, at least you do not claim British daddy

[original dervish]

I would respect them more if they just claimed Richard Burton as their founding father.

[Xildiiid]

With all due respect Xildiid, and this goes for your KowJow cousin above who completely misinterpreted that groupw testing he brought;

You are neither a geneticist, nor a historian, nor an anthropologist.

You should realize the limitations of your knowledge on this issue.

And generally, you are heavily motivated by political considerations (I am most closely related to Sicilians and Sheekh hebel ruler of Emirates--ilaahayow may ku maqlaan) which is behind your (and I am not trying to insult you) lack of confidence. Even this emphasis that J1 or Semities formed in Africa or even your almost petty regurgitation not all the Ethio Semitic-speakers are J1 is another manifestation iskuma kalsoonid as E-V32.

Somehow you still subscribe nobility to near east than your own Africa. That's really the underlying motivation.

War anigu nin Soomaali aha baan ahay who is Black and proud to be bonafide indigenous Black African descent. Carab iyo yahuud iyo Sicilians xaarkooda ha cunaan haday rabaan

That's a general conclusion on my part as a response to your completely typical over blowing of small J1 cariers. Southern Ethiopia is not even remote. It's flat grassland that's been traversed by everyone. What's actually remote are the Amxaaro and Tigree villages and churches way up in the mountains no one can climb. If there are small j1 carriers among the conquered of Ethiopia, we all known what happens when rape and genetic displacement occur.

I have already mentioned African Americans, but in more recent times, by some estimates, the Russians raped 1/3 of German women under their control after the defeat of Nazis. Please go locate all that displaced Germanic bloodline that is now teeming with Russian/Slavic Y-DNA. This has been happening in Abbysinia over a 1000 year long Habesh domination is not a farfetchdd idea.

In general, I just smell insecurity for being a Black African indigenous E3b carrier when throughout history we have subscribed nobility to outside Africa, near Eastern Arab origins.

You will see what I see when I read your posts on this later if you come to accept and be proud of who you are.

So I’m the one pushing a narrative?

R1 and J1 have been in Africa since the Neolithic. This is a fact wether you like it or not. Also the majority of Habeshas are Cushites who shifted to South Semitic languages. A minority among them carry South Semitic paternal lineages while all Habeshas irrespective of their paternal haplogroup carry South Semitic autosomal DNA (around 10-15%).

The idea that they spread J1 through rape is ridiculous.

My closest non Somali paternal relatives based on genetics i.e T-MRCA (time to most recent common ancestor) happen to be the Bani Malik clan in UAE/Iraq/Kuwait specifically the Al-Ali subclan followed by some Ashkenaz Jews and south Europeans (Sicilians, Italians, Greek) etc.

This does not mean I’m not Somali because my autosomal DNA is Somali.

You should stop being insecure.

J haplogroup originates in Caucasus fuck outta here laangaab imported khazarian slave, we do not follow the mother line nor do we care of your admixture, your not from the same ancestry as majority of Somalis, J haplogroup is even smaller than the T haplogroup

Boon

I’m not J1.

Based on paternal lineage I’m from Mesopotamia.

Waxaanu nahay dadkii ilaahay u waxyooday ee waakilka looga dhigay inay Bani Adamka jahliga ka saaraan. Somalidana sidaa si leeg ayuu ilaahay dadkayaga u soo diray

[theyuusuf143]

Imam Ahmed you brought the argument of poems bring the poems and we will explain these poems no isaaq ever claimed to be dir or darood or hawiye. Apart from the prostitute that are in xamar as dirty woqoyis.

We don't need your explanation because we are in control of your destiny , armed with great evidences which shows that the small iidoor clan of somaliland are part and parcel of the Dir empire. I am isaaq you can quarrel with the other Dir but not me . The entire somaliland leadership believe in Dir , only peasants like you still believe that you are the bastard child of an old arab saint with a holy ceeb that can produce 3 million people out of naked african girls .

LMAO ! From Arab daddy to Dir daddy, identity crisis, at least you do not claim British daddy

At least we have dad's, but you still have no Daddy what so ever. Since we all agree that daarood clan has nothing to do with arabs , perhaps you too should discuss about the true identity of your ancestor. We don't buy your bulshit that an unknown arab saint with a big book fked a Dir woman called doonbiro. You IIDOORz and dooros thought you could get away with this. Bulshit , at least be creative, you are all the unholy children of arab saints straight from nebi Mohamed backbone

[X.Playa]

Imam Ahmed you brought the argument of poems bring the poems and we will explain these poems no isaaq ever claimed to be dir or darood or hawiye. Apart from the prostitute that are in xamar as dirty woqoyis.

We don't need your explanation because we are in control of your destiny , armed with great evidences which shows that the small iidoor clan of somaliland are part and parcel of the Dir empire. I am isaaq you can quarrel with the other Dir but not me . The entire somaliland leadership believe in Dir , only peasants like you still believe that you are the bastard child of an old arab saint with a holy ceeb that can produce 3 million people out of naked african girls .

Evidence not blind faith kid. Where is the evidence we have 800 years of evidence you and qaad qamax you call leadership can't change history.

[skywalker25]

The Isaaq’s claiming Dir or whatever are just giving ammunition to the Darods. When the subject really should be about how the Boon midgaans have clearly absorbed known midgaans and it’s clear record. And or the Majerteen count 30+ to jerberti whilst the Dhulbahnte count to 21? Instead we have this dibjir Yusuf and some Oromo kid here bringing to question a perfect group with zero question mark over anybody’s count to Isaaq.

What does this Dir group add to Isaaq? If anything they should be claiming Isaaq. We out number them are in a stronger position financially. And in our hour of need, I don’t remember a Dir section of the SNM. We have sympathy for the small Dir groups in the south fighting for survival but the Cisse and Gudabirsi can fuck off..

[Xildiiid]

Waryaa Yusuf Ina Ram Nag waxaa kula hadlaya Xildiid Ina Ram Nag

Only the southern Dir are true brothers of Isaaq. They fought with the SNM and to this day they support us when we should be supporting them with money and weapons.

The Dir neighboring Isaaq have always sided with our enemies, even when we were not fighting them, instead being neutral.

Nowadays the situation is changing but we’ll see. However I’ve seen Jaarsos and other Dir Hararghe communities really supporting the Iidoor race. Dadkaasa hadaba ina jecel.

[theyuusuf143]

The Isaaq’s claiming Dir or whatever are just giving ammunition to the Darods. When the subject really should be about how the Boon midgaans have clearly absorbed known midgaans and it’s clear record. And or the Majerteen count 30+ to jerberti whilst the Dhulbahnte count to 21? Instead we have this dibjir Yusuf and some Oromo kid here bringing to question a perfect group with zero question mark over anybody’s count to Isaaq.

What does this Dir group add to Isaaq? If anything they should be claiming Isaaq. We out number them are in a stronger position financially. And in our hour of need, I don’t remember a Dir section of the SNM. We have sympathy for the small Dir groups in the south fighting for survival but the Cisse and Gudabirsi can fuck off..

You are both fake so what ammunition do they have . At least we accepted you as a family member of the pure Somali clan of Dir , but they have no family. They are stuck with their fake identity, no brothers, no relatives
nothing . You iidoors are lucky all your brothers accepted you even though you committed treason against your true family . It's Time we have to wash our sins and get back to our roots. Any daarood or isaaq who tries to keep feeding his children with fake stories will be humiliated. We won't tolerate fake insecure people to bring shame to the somali people.

[theyuusuf143]

Waryaa Yusuf Ina Ram Nag waxaa kula hadlaya Xildiid Ina Ram Nag

Only the southern Dir are true brothers of Isaaq. They fought with the SNM and to this day they support us when we should be supporting them with money and weapons.

The Dir neighboring Isaaq have always sided with our enemies, even when we were not fighting them, instead being neutral.

Nowadays the situation is changing but we’ll see. However I’ve seen Jaarsos and other Dir Hararghe communities really supporting the Iidoor race. Dadkaasa hadaba ina jecel.

You don't deserve to be supported by Dir , because you committed treason against the family and claimed something else . Why don't you feel the same against those Arabs you claim in the middle East. Did they support you. No. Ciise and samaron Never did any thing to your Habarjeclo. In fact your own isaaqs like the Habar yonis are the worst enemies of somaliland and Habarjeclo , but you don't want to admit , instead you release your frustrations on dhuloos , ciise and samaron.

[Xildiiid]

Waryaa Yusuf Ina Ram Nag waxaa kula hadlaya Xildiid Ina Ram Nag

Only the southern Dir are true brothers of Isaaq. They fought with the SNM and to this day they support us when we should be supporting them with money and weapons.

The Dir neighboring Isaaq have always sided with our enemies, even when we were not fighting them, instead being neutral.

Nowadays the situation is changing but we’ll see. However I’ve seen Jaarsos and other Dir Hararghe communities really supporting the Iidoor race. Dadkaasa hadaba ina jecel.

You don't deserve to be supported by Dir , because you committed treason against the family and claimed something else . Why don't you feel the same against those Arabs you claim in the middle East. Did they support you. No. Ciise and samaron Never did any thing to your Habarjeclo. In fact your own isaaqs like the Habar yonis are the worst enemies of somaliland and Habarjeclo , but you don't want to admit , instead you release your frustrations on dhuloos , ciise and samaron.

Waryaa Ina Ram Nag

I’ve never claimed an Arab ancestral father. I’m actually one of few Isaaqs on this site who challenged the Arab myth.

When it comes to DNA I only stated that there’s a paternal link between us and some groups in south Europe & Middle East and it’s true.

I believe Isaaq is a stand-alone clan but I also believe that the southern Dir are true brothers of Isaaq. I’m slowly changing my mind about Hararghe Dir. However the track record of Ciise and Gudabiirsi speaks for itself. They chose to side with our enemies when we didn’t even have a conflict with them. Where was the Dir brotherhood back then?

HJ iyo HY ba waa laba saaqid. Labadaa reer waxba kama qoro. Iyaagaa deegaamadoodi iyo SL la hadhay.

[theyuusuf143]

You are the largest Branch of Dir , did you ever helped other Dir , no . Who gave you this special rights to be helped. You are supposed to be the Savior of Dir , the shakers and movers.. instead you are here like a biitch claiming that they didn't help you when you you were taking diick from afwayne. Which is a pure lie in reality all branches of Dir assisted the SNM militarily , even though we were claiming Arabs they still fought for us and died in the fronlines. In the name of tolniimo.

[skywalker25]

Waryaa Yusuf Ina Ram Nag waxaa kula hadlaya Xildiid Ina Ram Nag

Only the southern Dir are true brothers of Isaaq. They fought with the SNM and to this day they support us when we should be supporting them with money and weapons.

The Dir neighboring Isaaq have always sided with our enemies, even when we were not fighting them, instead being neutral.

Nowadays the situation is changing but we’ll see. However I’ve seen Jaarsos and other Dir Hararghe communities really supporting the Iidoor race. Dadkaasa hadaba ina jecel.

You don't deserve to be supported by Dir , because you committed treason against the family and claimed something else . Why don't you feel the same against those Arabs you claim in the middle East. Did they support you. No. Ciise and samaron Never did any thing to your Habarjeclo. In fact your own isaaqs like the Habar yonis are the worst enemies of somaliland and Habarjeclo , but you don't want to admit , instead you release your frustrations on dhuloos , ciise and samaron.

Your a clown and this is not a circus.


Everybody on this forum has rifle and a goal. The goal is propaganda to raise the tribes profile. The rifle is for the enemy.
You’re a liability with no home. You don’t see HJ as Your natural home, but rather Sacad Muse. You don’t see Isaaq as your natural home but Dir. You hate HY but love Dhulbahnte. Your reasoning is not based on FACTS or logic. When cornered you play the clown.

We don’t care about Dir period. It’s like we are the EU and those niggas are those Eastern European countries. They add nothing to our social standing. They can’t add nothing to their themselves.

Yusuf Dibjir do you know who your daddy was. You have a identity crisis...

[Xildiiid]

You are the largest Branch of Dir , did you ever helped other Dir , no . Who gave you this special rights to be helped. You are supposed to be the Savior of Dir , the shakers and movers.. instead you are here like a biitch claiming that they didn't help you when you you were taking diick from afwayne. Which is a pure lie in reality all branches of Dir assisted the SNM militarily , even though we were claiming Arabs they still fought for us and died in the fronlines. In the name of tolniimo.

It’s the truth. Except for the elders of Wardiiq and Hooroone subclans of the Ciise, who are Yeesif (HJ) and Toljeclo in origin, no other Ciise supported SNM.

Also Tolwaa was the only Gudabiirsi to join SNM.

I’m not saying they had to support SNM because they didn’t but why are they always supporting and siding with our enemies? Back then and now? Taa iiga jawaab adeer.