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Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.

Postby original dervish » Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:17 pm

What about you.......what do you want your folks to do with your body? :)

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Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.

Postby X.Playa » Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:19 pm

What about you.......what do you want your folks to do with your body? :)
My body will be fed to the scavengers , perfect circle. How about you what will become of your hermaphrodite body?

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Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.

Postby original dervish » Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:24 pm

I would like to be buried wherever I fall according to Islamic law.......inshallah. :)

PS have you left instructions for your body to be fed to the crows?

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Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.

Postby X.Playa » Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:43 pm

I would like to be buried wherever I fall according to Islamic law.......inshallah. :)

PS have you left instructions for your body to be fed to the crows?
no to all of the animals. i don't discriminate.

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Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.

Postby Khalid Ali » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:07 pm

I always knew dir and hawiye had dravidian ancestry a mix of galla and hindi. Does this mean the yusuuf is now a hindi. Oo siik bu noqonaya

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Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.

Postby ImamAhmed » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:19 pm

I always knew dir and hawiye had dravidian ancestry a mix of galla and hindi. Does this mean the yusuuf is now a hindi. Oo siik bu noqonaya
It’s a 0 sum game because even if you believe in your arab daddy the ones that turn you from an iraqi to Somali are everything you’re insulting. Count your abtirsi to isaaq now times that by two for the female side. Whatever that number you your 1/? Iraqi. So essentially your Hindi and Galla aswell.

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Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.

Postby X.Playa » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:47 pm

I always knew dir and hawiye had dravidian ancestry a mix of galla and hindi. Does this mean the yusuuf is now a hindi. Oo siik bu noqonaya
It’s a 0 sum game because even if you believe in your arab daddy the ones that turn you from an iraqi to Somali are everything you’re insulting. Count your abtirsi to isaaq now times that by two for the female side. Whatever that number you your 1/? Iraqi. So essentially your Hindi and Galla aswell.
The dirty waqooyi like you and Yusuf can't bring a shred of evidence to support their Hindi daddy. Just blind stubborn faith.

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Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.

Postby Voltage » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:46 pm

Why can't this guy accept his origins is entirely African??

One day it's Arabs. The other day it's Indians. All supposed on "stories."

It's 2019.

Just like hospitals have a BLOOD BANK to store blood, we have the entire human genome sequenced.

That genetic bank has allowed for genographic testing to see where human groups separated from each other using patrilineal descent.

If you say you are of Arab descent, but your patrilineal dna chain comes back to say that's not true, then someone focking lied to you about who your daddy was.

Somali oral stories about origins was purely for religious stories. They are no different then the Native American whose oral stories say they come from the salmon spirit or the Chinese who say their origins was the children of heaven.

Indians are Aryans.

DNA has proven Indians are from the same origins as White Europeans.

Somalis are not Aryans. Somalis are not Semites.

Somalis are almosy entirely from Cushitic speaking who formed on the East African coast.

There's no Arab. There's no Indian. You are purely East African.

Science has spoken. It doesn't matter what you think because someone lied to you about your daddy if you disagree!

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Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.

Postby X.Playa » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:45 pm

Why can't this guy accept his origins is entirely African??

One day it's Arabs. The other day it's Indians. All supposed on "stories."

It's 2019.

Just like hospitals have a BLOOD BANK to store blood, we have the entire human genome sequenced.

That genetic bank has allowed for genographic testing to see where human groups separated from each other using patrilineal descent.

If you say you are of Arab descent, but your patrilineal dna chain comes back to say that's not true, then someone focking lied to you about who your daddy was.

Somali oral stories about origins was purely for religious stories. They are no different then the Native American whose oral stories say they come from the salmon spirit or the Chinese who say their origins was the children of heaven.

Indians are Aryans.

DNA has proven Indians are from the same origins as White Europeans.

Somalis are not Aryans. Somalis are not Semites.

Somalis are almosy entirely from Cushitic speaking who formed on the East African coast.

There's no Arab. There's no Indian. You are purely East African.

Science has spoken. It doesn't matter what you think because someone lied to you about your daddy if you disagree!
Strange how you love to preach about DNA yet believe in a Boon clan from a single Boon patriarch! Half of your clan are Boons , Tumaals and Midgo yet you believe in Mareexaan, . Get out of the town.

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Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.

Postby Xildiiid » Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:41 pm

Nacdal baa ku taal Ram Nag.
Rag baa mafrishaydii hargaysa iska jeclaaday Ram Nag Zag oo awowyaashood la murmaya oo leh kaas baa na dhalay.
Boqorka Beesha Direed waa Arab Daandhagax Hargeisa ka yimi.

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Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.

Postby Voltage » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:19 pm

Why can't this guy accept his origins is entirely African??

One day it's Arabs. The other day it's Indians. All supposed on "stories."

It's 2019.

Just like hospitals have a BLOOD BANK to store blood, we have the entire human genome sequenced.

That genetic bank has allowed for genographic testing to see where human groups separated from each other using patrilineal descent.

If you say you are of Arab descent, but your patrilineal dna chain comes back to say that's not true, then someone focking lied to you about who your daddy was.

Somali oral stories about origins was purely for religious stories. They are no different then the Native American whose oral stories say they come from the salmon spirit or the Chinese who say their origins was the children of heaven.

Indians are Aryans.

DNA has proven Indians are from the same origins as White Europeans.

Somalis are not Aryans. Somalis are not Semites.

Somalis are almosy entirely from Cushitic speaking who formed on the East African coast.

There's no Arab. There's no Indian. You are purely East African.

Science has spoken. It doesn't matter what you think because someone lied to you about your daddy if you disagree!
Strange how you love to preach about DNA yet believe in a Boon clan from a single Boon patriarch! Half of your clan are Boons , Tumaals and Midgo yet you believe in Mareexaan, . Get out of the town.
I don't understand what this means to be honest. Why are you getting mad at me sxb? Teeda kale boon iyo tumaal iyo waxaad sheegeysid I DON'T EVEN BELIEVE IN IT NOR DO I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT ANYONE IS BORN DIFFERENT. That's me as Voltage. Boonta aad sheegeysid is a name MAREEXAAN gave to people to put them down and I reject it and will reject it to this day to give gar against Marehan or ANYONE who tries to legitimize it's sheer ridiculousness.

Also, it's quite hilarious that is coming from you to ME knowing the amount of information I have collected on Somalis including your own Habar Yonis and Kuul Carre,Damal Muuse, and Lo-Jir. I even have accounts of a British colonial officer sitting there recording a particular subclan to "Moussa Arreh" was incorporated as a diya-paying group just the previous month!

But I don't care to expand on this because this is my own personal views on this issue
I disdained Somalis and their whole cultural positioning the day I found out "Tumaal" means "blacksmith", a man with skill who invents and makes stuff. Lol @ the idea of an illiterate nomad disparaging a man with skill. If I were to be transported back and see Siyaad Diini himself disparage a man more skilled than him, I would have slapped my dear ancestor silly.
In general that is all irrelevant, I think this is a generational issue.

We all know you are quite older and in a very different generation than most of these kids.

I am one of the few that does NOT insult you for being a Buddhist or non-Muslim.

I believe in freedom of choice (just like i believe we are all born equal to the Madhibaan thing above ) and give you that right to decide for your own self what your value system is.

I just find it INCREDIBLY IRONIC that like an old jaahil Somali of your generation, you still subscribe nobility to fake and discredit Arab myth creation stories which all informed during the Somali conversion to Islam to feel "closer" to the prophet.

Waa yaab wallahi how a man who left Islam to embrace buddishm is at the same time so beholden to such fake stories that have been disproven by GENETIC EVIDENCE.

If this is the non-Muslim among us, imagine odayaashaan xun who are strong Muslims.

If someone brought the prophet Mohamed to tell them to their faces Carab ma tihiin, they would replay beenloow baad tahay :lol: :lol:

P.s. Just like I said Isaaq are not Arab, neither Mareexaan nor Darod are Arab. I don't know what else you want me to say

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Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.

Postby SultanOrder » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:44 pm

Odeyga doesn’t care if Sheikh Isxaaq is his daddy or even real. What matters is the emotional connection it brings and the sense of identity and belonging it gives.

We all know rationally qabil is a social construct with elements of paternal descent. We also know it is fluid and depending on circumstances people changed qabils or created new qabils to form new bonds. Humans are practical and will do what they have to do to survive.

I am marexaan, I descend from Darood. That is my social identity. However that is not my genetic reality. I have the same patrilineal dna of men who are Hawiye, Isaaq, etc. majority of Somalis are E-V32, most East Africans are E1B1, I come from a group of men that their descendants are found from Greece, to North Africa, to East Africa. They are definitely not found in the Middle East. Both my social identity and Genetic Reality are true.

In the end, I actually feel more Somali because I know I come from a people that have been in the horn for a very long time.

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Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.

Postby Khalid Ali » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:24 am

I always knew dir and hawiye had dravidian ancestry a mix of galla and hindi. Does this mean the yusuuf is now a hindi. Oo siik bu noqonaya
It’s a 0 sum game because even if you believe in your arab daddy the ones that turn you from an iraqi to Somali are everything you’re insulting. Count your abtirsi to isaaq now times that by two for the female side. Whatever that number you your 1/? Iraqi. So essentially your Hindi and Galla aswell.


Your the one that is claiming to be a zunali ram nag hindi not me sxb

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Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.

Postby Xildiiid » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:11 am

Voltage,

All Indians are not of Aryan descent (Yamnaya aka proto Indo-European). Only the Brahmin and some other groups like the Parsis.

The original Indians, who created the Harappan civilization, are the dark Indians (Ram Nag type) who are now being discriminated against.


Sultan,

Isaaq is a social, political and economical reality. That’s all that matters.

I’m genetically connected to Ashkenazi Jews, the Bani Malik tribe, Sicilians, other Italians, Cretans, Assyrians, Iranians etc. Matter of fact the Bani Malik tribe in Iraq/Kuwait/UAE are my closest non Somali paternal relatives but that doesn’t matter. What matters is blood money and tolnimo.

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Re: yusuf's ancestor Ram Naag.

Postby original dervish » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:52 am

You aint connected to nothing....gtfoh!
These day's snet is becoming coon central. :snoop:


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