Faroole is failing miserably

[Southie4life]

Gemini,
Cumar maxamuud and reer bicidyahan lost more lives in protecting Gaalkacyo and kismaayo more than other daroods COMBINED, so they were fighting under ssdf and morgan in kismaayo

You guys are full of hot air. when u make up your own history that makes you look good it starts to cause problems. writing that abdullahi yusuf and the father of puntland and shit like that is a lie. when you insult jama ali jama as a traitor for siding with somali muslim hawiye but abdullahi yusuf is a hero even though he has used ethiopia time and again as an ally is your own view of history. this whole discussion is to point out that abdullahi yusuf may be a man who brought peace to you but not to us. he is a man that no one in bari wants to see come back again or anyone with his violent mind. that is why ilko-jiir lost because he had abdullahi's support and bari voted for faroole instead of someone associate with him. he was adored by many and loved, but he was also despised by many mjs who wanted him dead.

[Unclebin-]

Talks like Cusmaano .......Check
Acts like Cusmaano....... Check
IP Adress....... Check

[Southie4life]

Qabiil obession. even if they were raised outside the country.

[paidmonk]

What about Reer Maxamoud ,Reer Bicidyahan and other non SSDF Majerteen ,which group were they fighting under ?

Or did they all join SSDF in the end ?

There were a lot of reer Maxamud fighting for Al-Itihaad but reer Bicidyahan were fighting on their own behalf in Mudug.

What i want to know is when the ssdf fought the al-itixaad did the cusmaan maxamuud joined the ssdf or were they watching it from the sidelines?

I'm not sure. I know for a fact that Al-Itihaad imposed sanctions on SSDF from using Bosaso port to unload weapons and materials which led to locals losing favor in them in the long run. My guess is that Cusman Maxamud were the driving factor in that.

[Murax]

Xamud, you're right correction, the SSDF was headed for other regions. Some came all the way from Ethiopia to fightin Shabelle, Kismayo, and Xamar, in total they numbered 4,000.

Cinque, my correction SSDF was headed to all locations in Somalia, the distance for some Dishiishe to travel to Mudug or Jubboyinka should not be much more than Cusman Maxamud traveling to those same areas or any other regional clan.

I think we should realize that MJ sub-clans have as much political difference an polarity than Hawiye as a whole. I don't think Cusman Maxamud wanted to participate in the civil war period. There was no reason to. I genuinely don't think they believed Hawiye were gonna slaughter them all, after all on one end you had Aideed and on the other end you had Dahir Aweys as one of your own, I think they had less animosity towards other clans and didn't feel the need to take part in a pointless kill fest.

The whole thing that started the war against al-itixad was that Daahir aweys captured 50 elders in Bosaaso because they rejected his view that reer puntland should surrender themselves to the USC when Aideed headed towards Mudug. So sooner or later USC would capture Bari if it wasn't stopped.
What i want to know is when the ssdf fought the al-itixaad did the cusmaan maxamuud joined the ssdf or were they watching it from the sidelines?

Gemini,
Cumar maxamuud and reer bicidyahan lost more lives in protecting Gaalkacyo and kismaayo more than other daroods COMBINED, so they were fighting under ssdf and morgan in kismaayo

Don't talk out of Your arse dude, even Your own Galkacyo was liberated by Cadicasis Barre, Cabdullahi Yusuf was actually trying to join Caydid's Salabaar Government


As for Kismaayo, this non existant "SSDF" Had no role there, it was SNF commanded by Morgan, who captured Kismaayo. Yes He was Majerteen, but SNF was a Marexaan orginization.

Now I'll let You Guys resume the inter tribal cyber war

[Unclebin-]

^ look at your caqli.

Cabdiaziiz commands some troops = Marexaan

Morgan commands some troops= Mareexaan

[Murax]

^ look at your caqli.

Cabdiaziiz commands some troops = Marexaan

Morgan commands some troops= Mareexaan

Inadeer the truth is the truth. Its not bragging, I'm just being honest When I say 75% of Darood defense was done by Marexaan, and they were on the frontlines everywhere.


That being said, lets just assume MR Had zero role in Galkacyo, to say two subclans of MJ experienced more casualties than the rest of Darood, was preposterous, When Marexaan alone was doing 75% of the fighting

[Unclebin-]

let me guess that your 75% figure came from a Gallup poll ?

3.5% standard deviation

You weren't even in Galkacyo.... You have no relatives from Galkacyo and your just throwing out statistics like they come from the Mareexan Bible?

www.QuuleGallup.com

[paidmonk]

LOL @ Quule Gallup

As for SSDF involvement in the civil war, when the civil war broke out a lot of them were in Ethiopia but came directly to the aid of the government in places like Kismayo and Xamar. They had more involvement in the fighting in Xamar & Kismayo than they did in Mudug, precisely because the leadership cared more about having a hand in the government than engaging in clan wars with little political significance. My aunt was in Kismayo from 91 to 96 and to my surprise she said there were hundreds of "dhafoorqiiq" militias in Kismayo early on comprising a larger segment than Morgan's MJ militias in the city.

By 1993, the SSDF had become so entrenched in Kismayo affairs that chairman Maxamed Abshir played a central role in the Jubbaland Peace Agreement, even investing his own money in the conferences.

History* lesson of the day



*Not applicable to fans of alternative history (Gedonians)

[Cinque Mtume]

Yo these guys are really creative, the things they come up with. 75% of all the fighting kulaha, these folks are barely 2% of the population.


If it was Marehan that defended Galkacyo from Habar Gidir, than why did HG not just take over the whole damn thing when this formidable ilkoyar force that stood between the city and the USC suddenly vanished? Abdiaziz helped us with his material, that's all. Just because AY was yet to be released from jail in Ethiopia, doesn't mean there was no SSDF and SNDU defending its people. We occupied Sacad territory all the way to Wisil and Dagaari.

[Unclebin-]

[Murax]

[maxamed khaliif]

It is true that marehan are the most warriors of darod according to mudug war 1992.

Awrtable iyo lelkase oo S N D U ahaa ayaa uyeeray markii hawiye loo taagwaayay

[abdisamad3]

advo,

yeah a lot of Reer Xirsis are like that.

Reer Xirsis in general don`t like Abdullahi Yusuf..laakin Jilib Reer Xirsi ah ba jiro oo aad u tageero Cinque wuu yaqaana baan u maleynaya

That would be us, b/c we're AY's inlaws. The Reer Xirsis adiga aad ka dhashey are definitely anti-AY, at least a lot of them.

abdisamad,

there's a deep rivalry between us and the Qoyanes. but we intermarry the most with them as well.

yeah I know bro..my fathers 1 wife is qoyaane..as you call them..

[Xamud.]

Unless your qabiils nick name is Darbi-Darood or Gaasdhagoole iska amuus, Ya`all were all clapping for us on the sideline ruunta ha laysku sheego