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Re: GAALKACYO
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:22 pm
by Shirib
D&M land is the best land in Somalia

If only we found away to keep the others in Mudug and Galgaduud
Re: GAALKACYO
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:28 pm
by Murax
Shirib wrote:D&M land is the best land in Somalia

If only we found away to keep the others in Mudug and Galgaduud
Shirb,
I'm not from Galgudud so do You have a problem with MR subclans like Talxe who lived in L Jubba for ages and with MR Reer Gedo? Btw I heard something about the Luuq geography that might make You happy. Yes Xuruufles do live there.

Re: GAALKACYO
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:36 pm
by Shirib
The problem is Mudug (Galgaduud included) all the fighting and everything is done by them.
True reer Gedo
91 reer Gedo
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Murax
Xurufle lived in Luuq and Baardheere before Mareehaan ever came, Gassar Gudda had a sultan there long before, so ofcourse Xurufle live there unless u kicked them all out since 91
BTW did u guys kick all of them out?
Re: GAALKACYO
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:42 pm
by Murax
Shirib from what I was told, Luuq is like an island surrounded by the Jubba on three sides. On the Soutern side of the Bank Marexaan live and on the Northern Eastern side Raxanwein and on the Northwestern side Dir but Marexaan always had their side of the river. Anyway the Luuq Raxanwein are cool but the Baardheere ones were absolutely evil.
Laakin ninyaho Luuq and Baardhere will forever be MR towns Inshallah and We'll never give it up. We fought for it in '91 kicking out Caydid and killing Shabelle and We deserve it.
Why did Raxanwein support USC? There not Hawiye so what did Caydid promise them?
Re: GAALKACYO
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:01 pm
by Cisse Westlake
Murax wrote:Why did Raxanwein support USC? There not Hawiye so what did Caydid promise them?
irir samaale and sab are brothers saaxib

Re: GAALKACYO
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:31 pm
by Shirib
From what I know Rahanweyn as a qabiil didn't join USC. There was no Rahanweyn leadership in USC and no units that were entirely Rahanweyn. It was some kids long and far who joined them. Rahanweyn as a qabiil didn't start fighting until 95 when the RRA was made before that they were an unarmed qabiil.
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Why would Xaabsade and Madoobe/Shaatigaduud bomb each other in Baydhabo to give the TFG as seat there when even Galkacyo declined. Still baffles me.
Re: GAALKACYO
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:08 am
by surrender
so shirib make me understand something? are you with or against P-land? 
Re: GAALKACYO
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:45 am
by Murax
Shirib wrote:From what I know Rahanweyn as a qabiil didn't join USC. There was no Rahanweyn leadership in USC and no units that were entirely Rahanweyn. It was some kids long and far who joined them. Rahanweyn as a qabiil didn't start fighting until 95 when the RRA was made before that they were an unarmed qabiil..
You're wrong on this one
Caydid sent Raxanweins at the front of the USC army. Ofcourse they didn't have leadership in in the USC as they were new members to the Hutu coalition

Re: GAALKACYO
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:44 pm
by Shirib
surrender wrote:so shirib make me understand something? are you with or against P-land? 
I have nothing against PuntLand I think they've done a good job of building there lands its been a good step.
In the long run when a government is established I'm against all "lands" as it weakens the overall government, and actually keeps doors open for wars and what not, representation should be from the 18 gobols. No PLand SLand, JLand or anything like that.
Re: GAALKACYO
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:50 pm
by zackabdul
Shirib wrote:surrender wrote:so shirib make me understand something? are you with or against P-land? 
I have nothing against PuntLand I think they've done a good job of building there lands its been a good step.
In the long run when a government is established I'm against all "lands" as it weakens the overall government, and actually keeps doors open for wars and what not, representation should be from the 18 gobols. No PLand SLand, JLand or anything like that.
It'd be better to have a federal Somalia. After what happened in the civil war, you think people will all live in the same cities? What are you on bro?

Re: GAALKACYO
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:53 pm
by Shirib
^^^ U can have federalism with the 18 gobols. The land thing opens a big door for conflict, it makes the central government way too weak, and practically every region has autonomy.
Federalism with in each of the 18 gobols, destroy the land thing, or it will just be another disaster waiting to happen
Re: GAALKACYO
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:27 am
by surrender
Shirib wrote:^^^ U can have federalism with the 18 gobols. The land thing opens a big door for conflict, it makes the central government way too weak, and practically every region has autonomy.
Federalism with in each of the 18 gobols, destroy the land thing, or it will just be another disaster waiting to happen
