All somalis Should support federal system Government

[Cusmano]

Wallahi If anything is ever going to work in somalia it is the federal model of government...if we don't have this type of model, that means today me and you and everyone from puntland would be focussed on sharif and only sharif and mogadishu...Thats why federal systems is the best model...if our tribe is not president well it don't matter because we can still focus on our state government and developments from there..

Thats why this is the best system, without it today we would be glued on mogadishu and everything would revolve around mogadishu...with the federal model, we can still focus on mogadishu but at the same time focus on our state and regional parliaments...if sharif decides to take away this federal model he should be sacked straight away...because this is not only workable for us but every tribe in somalia...

Every tribe hawiye can focus on their regional parliament, isaaq can focus still on their regional parliament, darod also..and at federal level we can still unite for the country and best of all there is unity which mean strength, and recognition from international community..and in 20 years somalia will be place that is respected by the international community also...it's win win situation i think...any thoughts?

[gemini07]

Of course .

Faroole's administration has stressed the urgency of this matter .If they refuse we'll just declare independance

We don't need them they need us

[MrPrestige]

your still missing the point there is no somalia without isaaq - and isaaq already made up their mind in 1991 when my Uncle AUN in burco decided to declare breaking off - i dont see isaaqs as being part of a future somalia its very unlikely to be Honest ---- the other thing is if we have somalia and , somaliland , djbouti , Somali region 4 countries then we can form some kind of European Union but we will still stay separate countries which aid each other in terms of economics , military just like the UK who have scotland , england , wales , Northern Ireland i guess but little bit different

[Cusmano]

Duceysane..i am talking about reality here, separate reality and fantasy...reality is somaliland will never be recognized whether u like it or not. That's the reality!! now if hargeisa refuse the federal model then as somalia we can say to the united nation "bal eega nimankan" we offered them a good deal and they refused it and then the international community can declare hargeisa as an outlaw state...we still win..The issue is not whether this is good government set up...it is good government set up..the question is whether sharif is going to destroy it...

The benefits of ths system is...
1. United somalia
2. Regional administration blocs operating indepedently
3. Federal government that represents the interest of somalis in the international community.

This keeps the somali nationalists happy because somalia is 1...this keeps darod happy because not all the funding will go to the mogadishu n hargeisa like last time and be used against us...and three keeps isaaq happy because they still have administration of their own to build their towns n cities for their ppl...There is absolutely no reason for anyone to refuse it except out of hate and thats where the good thing comes...we as darod have done our part and now if u refuse ur doing your part...well the international community can see we are the good guys and u r the bad ones and rebels and u will declare an illegal state and banned from everywhere like iran was... ...

Duceysane d-block has isaaq future well scoped out before u even make decision...its up to your ppl which route they decide to take...

[Cusmano]

Well duceysane i just read your comment on the uk model...that is exactly what the darod wants...and u just let it slip that u guys do too...

[MrPrestige]

Well duceysane i just read your comment on the uk model...that is exactly what the darod wants...and u just let it slip that u guys do too...

you still dont get the point federal government is really weak - somalia wont work like that - - and for Somaliland's Future allah knows - inshallah allah will give the somaliland citizens the best route for their lifes that they want ---- but i really dont belief in this federal govnerment shit - somalia is strong only united - but like i said somalia is Doomed because there is no isaaqs there - and isaaqs will continue their job building the country more - recognition will come in time if allah wills - ----


Marka Federal Somalia has no Future


United somalia only has a Future if isaaq wants to be part of it - but certainly dont so i guess its going to have to be only Puntland and south somalia to form a united government - and Somaliland will just be like Djbouti a different country--


and i dont believe in this Mighty Darood shit - even though my reer abti are Darood - i believe only Allah is mighty and will decide the future for somalia

[osman-k]

the question is not that somaliland can't obtain independance but when can they obtain it? The answer to that qestion is related to when somalia will get their act together. Somalia can't force Somaliland to join her and that everyone knows and even politicians knows. self delusional folks like cusmano and most of daroods and hawiyeh dont know how far somaliland is gone, gone, gone forever.

[MrPrestige]

the question is not that somaliland can't obtain independance but when can they obtain it? The answer to that qestion is related to when somalia will get their act together. Somalia can't force Somaliland to join her and that everyone knows and even politicians knows. self delusional folks like cusmano and most of daroods and hawiyeh dont know how far somaliland is gone, gone, gone forever.

actually much respect to Hawiye 's the likes of Abakar are up with Reality and know how far somaliland has gone - its just delusional kids like Cusmano who see everything in Darood Perspective - but not the reality - his living in a past

[Amilla]

:lol: your still missing the point there is no somalia without isaaq - and isaaq already made up their mind in 1991 when my Uncle AUN in burco decided to declare breaking off - i dont see isaaqs as being part of a future somalia its very unlikely to be Honest ---- the other thing is if we have somalia and , somaliland , djbouti , Somali region 4 countries then we can form some kind of European Union but we will still stay separate countries which aid each other in terms of economics , military just like the UK who have scotland , england , wales , Northern Ireland i guess but little bit different

keep dreaming. i can more than guarantee you that somaliland doesn't have and will not have future with our somalia. the international community will not recognize somaliland as independent country because they would have to recognize Tibet, darfur, and all the other regions in the world that wants to break away as a country which is highly unlikely. the fact is that it is only matter of time before somaliland will come and kiss our feet and i mean puntland. puntland will soon have income in the oil and gas in daroor and nugal valleys. somaliland without somalia is worthless.

just hawiyes need to get their shit together and somalia is destined to be the best country in africa as it once used to be. the only problem issaq have is they need ruled anybody. that is why their has not been issaq president in somali history. even the president of somaliland isn't issaq.

darood rule

[Cusmano]

Amilla...what does anyone need from isaaq...are they recognized state? no...are they capital..no...what importance they hold? see when they throw those sorts of conclusion test their claim and tell them to show u ample evidence for such claim...if they can't well it's just sheeko

[Cusmano]

Amila that is why the west, african union, european union, arab league...every organization is focussed on mogadishu...because this is where the capital of recognized country somalia is...and that is why their is so many problems there...and that is why there is no problems in somaliland because noone in the world cares to interfere over there and thats why it's been peaceful..that's fact...

[lali99]

:lol: your still missing the point there is no somalia without isaaq - and isaaq already made up their mind in 1991 when my Uncle AUN in burco decided to declare breaking off - i dont see isaaqs as being part of a future somalia its very unlikely to be Honest ---- the other thing is if we have somalia and , somaliland , djbouti , Somali region 4 countries then we can form some kind of European Union but we will still stay separate countries which aid each other in terms of economics , military just like the UK who have scotland , england , wales , Northern Ireland i guess but little bit different

keep dreaming. i can more than guarantee you that somaliland doesn't have and will not have future with our somalia. the international community will not recognize somaliland as independent country because they would have to recognize Tibet, darfur, and all the other regions in the world that wants to break away as a country which is highly unlikely. the fact is that it is only matter of time before somaliland will come and kiss our feet and i mean puntland. puntland will soon have income in the oil and gas in daroor and nugal valleys. somaliland without somalia is worthless.

just hawiyes need to get their shit together and somalia is destined to be the best country in africa as it once used to be. the only problem issaq have is they need ruled anybody. that is why their has not been issaq president in somali history. even the president of somaliland isn't issaq.

darood rule

Horta you need to learn your history. Howm any president were they in somalia history and tell me when did isaaq had time to be president. I mean from two president, one assasinated anda coup d'etat tell me when there was a chance for isaaq president. and on top of that present president of somaliland is only there after they were 2 isaaq prseidents before him and he's only back up by isaaq fools so called prime ministers who only think for their stomachs. Now as for isaq rules, guess which tribes gain the msot lands from other tribes till today? Yep isaaq clans. talk about ruling mise conquering. Isaaq are more interested in business tahn anything else and thats where we differentiate with other tribes but now lets face it MSB (AUN) had awaken a giant and theres no way to join zoo-malis.

Wow is funny how stupid you sound. Sorry im not the type ofm an to insult women but this time you really outdone yourself when you compare about somaliland and darfur and tibet. Wallahi its amazing how these daroods fellas have in turning away from the truth cuz they dont like the way it looks. The only reason why you cant compare somalialnd wit those other countries cuz they dont have any historical facts beside tibet. to obtain independance there must a bialteral agreement between noted parties and in case of tibet, china is refusing , but in case of somaliland there's no other party to disucss with. And to all of those taht thing that somalia wont give somaliland their independance is gravely mistaken. Ask any hawiyeh or southern who gave from Somaliland and ask how they feel about SL. You will feel the love and gratitude they have. The only people that are against somaliland are daroods and thats cuz of sool and sanaag issue which could be easily solve otherwise we will have to enforce our rule upon you. Hawiyeh and isaaq are on the same page when it comes to SL the only issue is daroods but then again they're minority so who gives a F about them. SL is gone and somalia will never dare say anything about it the same way they cant do nothing now in las canood or anywhere else.
We help created somalia and without us is death. Now talk about who are the shot caller to a point that hawiyeh and daroods elders are asking our elders to help them intervene but hey thats another story.