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Beelwaynta Cawrmale(Warsangeli)

Postby Highland » Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:32 am

This is strictly an Educational Post for the confused Isaaq kids who think we only live in the North. Warsangelis settle in southern Somalia in greater numbers esp the regions of Lower Juba and Bay.



Somalia: Information on the Awramale subclan of the Darood Warsangeli and its treatment by the Marehan.

 According to a Syracuse University professor of public administration with academic interests in Somali affairs, the Awramale are a subclan of the Darod (20 Feb. 1995). Although Awramale trace their roots to northern Somalia, they are currently concentrated in southern Somalia, Kismayo and the Lower Jubba (ibid.).

According to the professor, with the exception of the Marehan, the other Darod subclans are the principal allies of the Awramale. These allies include the Majerteen, Dulbahante and Warsangali (ibid.). On the other hand, the Awramale's enemies have constantly changed according to the clans and the militias controlling southern Somalia (ibid.). For instance, the Awramale and the other Darood subclans do not perceive the Marehan as allies (ibid.). The other Darod subclans attribute this hostile relationship with the Marehan to Siad Barre and the suffering he brought upon non-Marehan Somalis during his administration.

The Syracuse University professor added that, for 145 years, the Awramale have inhabited an area in southern Somalia considered prime land in terms of its agricultural potential and existing infrastructure. As a result, this prime land offers the potential for creating further conflict among the clans, following the United Nations' "pull-out from Somalia in March 1995" (ibid.). According to the professor, the future of the Awramale in the Lower Jubba and around Kismayo will ultimately depend on the clans or subclans that control the region. A representative of Somali Immigrant Aid in Toronto corroborated the information provided by the Syracuse University professor concerning the allies of the Awramale (20 Feb. 1995). In the words of the representative, "other Daroods perceive the Marehan as traitors." This response was prepared after researching publicly accessible information currently available to the DIRB within time constraints.

References Somali Immigrant Aid, Toronto. 20 February 1995. Telephone interview with representative. Professor of political science with academic interests in Somalia, Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY. 20 February 1995. Telephone interview.

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Re: Beelwaynta Cawrmale(Warsangeli)

Postby sheekh-Farax-zero » Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:15 am

Oldenglish

please don't embarrass yourself, Cawramaleh are not Daarod, Dir, Hawiye or Dirta/waqooyi
waa stand alone somali clan ok,,,

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Re: Beelwaynta Cawrmale(Warsangeli)

Postby oldenglish » Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:09 pm

sheekh-Farax-zero wrote:Oldenglish

please don't embarrass yourself, Cawramaleh are not Daarod, Dir, Hawiye or Dirta/waqooyi
waa stand alone somali clan ok,,,


Sounds like Midgojirreteen.

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Re: Beelwaynta Cawrmale(Warsangeli)

Postby Ducaysane_87 » Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:13 pm

Cawrlmale aint darood - dillusional Fucker

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Re: Beelwaynta Cawrmale(Warsangeli)

Postby oldenglish » Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:19 pm

:lost: :sland:

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Re: Beelwaynta Cawrmale(Warsangeli)

Postby Ducaysane_87 » Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:24 pm

Oldenglish you got serious problems



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Re: Beelwaynta Cawrmale(Warsangeli)

Postby oldenglish » Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:50 pm

Perfect :sland:

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Re: Beelwaynta Cawrmale(Warsangeli)

Postby Highland » Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:59 pm

Shekh, if you can't figure out the differences btw me and oldeglish, you are truly retarded.

Second, you call yourself Harti and you are the first to project Xaasidnimo and Envy on us. Lol.

Awrmaleh is one of the sub-clans of Cismaan Ibraahim Warsangeli.
They are one of the largest clans in Lower Juba and hold the most Productive land.
I am just surprised that such stupidity and envy is coming from someone who claims to be MJ. Of course, not all MJs share with your warped thoughts and hostility as the article briefly illustrates along with Dhulbahante.

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Re: Beelwaynta Cawrmale(Warsangeli)

Postby Advo » Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:19 pm

Waw Ursangali must be the most desperate clan, claiming people who dont even know their existence, namely the canfar and now the cawrmale, looool.


ceebta xataa kama xishoonaayaan.

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Re: Beelwaynta Cawrmale(Warsangeli)

Postby Ducaysane_87 » Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:24 pm

Advo wrote:Waw Ursangali must be the most desperate clan, claiming people who dont even know their existence, namely the canfar and now the cawrmale, looool.


ceebta xataa kama xishoonaayaan.




they might aswell claim the Madhibaans , Gaboye , etc - just to make themselfs look Laandheer

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Re: Beelwaynta Cawrmale(Warsangeli)

Postby Highland » Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:30 pm

Dhukeysane, you will get the biggest award if you tell me which major city let alone region the Habar-Gerxajis is majority. Isn't that a certified laangaabnimo for your entire Iidoor. :lol:


And to Advo, as much as I respect the Marehan, they would be the last group in Somalia to call others names as they are certified Bon. It's just amusing that the Howraarsame and Habr Yacquubs whom you all accept as Nasuba-dhiman Mareehaan would have the audacity to register for a challenge. Above all,
You are official minority in your own Ghetto region. Sad but truth.

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Re: Beelwaynta Cawrmale(Warsangeli)

Postby Advo » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:52 am

Habar yaquub and hawrarsame wax ka gobson and nasabsan majiro, no Mareexaan disputes that whether you say so or not, how ever your tiny clan made up of several thousand people are on a mission to claim anything and everything, even southern clans that have absolutely nothing to do with you guys are not safe. Out of all the qabiils why Cawrmale?..it makes no sense, you guys inhabit the complete opposite of the country, share no accent, no dhiig, no dhaqan etc, it boggles me forreal. I understand being small is a disheartening but you have to work with what you got not want.

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Re: Beelwaynta Cawrmale(Warsangeli)

Postby oldenglish » Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:34 am

LOL @ Canfar.. Again Warsangeli is a ethnicity, with the exception of non-Somali speakers its laughable unknowns until 1969 Marehans are commenting on Warsangeli.

Thats why they die of nasab, these Oromo bastards aren't even acknowledged as Darood. Its amusing to see a Marehan comment and even far more amusing when there nasabnimo is a big question mark.

Highland wallahi, I dont even bother with Marehans they are an outlier group you rarely see even in the West. They dont share any dhig, daqan or history with Darood except fighting Oromo, intergrating Boons, Bonis, Garre.

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Re: Beelwaynta Cawrmale(Warsangeli)

Postby Ducaysane_87 » Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:51 am

Highland i dont even what habar garxajis you talking about - Hy alone a sub clan of Garxajis inhabits 5 out of the 6 somaliland regions - they are majority in burco , Erigavo , they make very good numbers in hargiesa if it includes all garxajis - then they make up about 55 percent of hargiesa population - we are the Majority in Gaashaamo Woreda of Ethiopia , Danot , Aware districts - we also have good populations in Degaxbuur - ,Mudug , Bay and Bakool - here it a UN report describes the Habar yonis ethiopia as very large clan - let alone the 1s in somaliland - bal find me 1 report that says warsangeli is a big darood clan :lol: f-king langaabs



"Habar Yonis (Isaaq): the Habar Yonis, a large clan of the Isaaq / Garxajis family (which also includes 'Idagale) straddle the Somaliland border, and branches of the family also live in the area of Berbera and 'Eerigaabo in Somaliland. Gaashamo serves as the clan's Ethiopian "capital", in a territory that spreads north to Hargeysa, Oodweyne, and Bur'o. It is a source of aggravation for the community that Gaashamo is administratively labelled as a dependency of Dhagaxbuur - a town dominated by a clan (the Ogaadeen) with whom they have strained relations and little common interest. Relations with their Garxajis cousins, the 'Idagale, are generally good and they share a common political orientation on most matters. In Somaliland, sections of the Habar Yonis, are presently allied with the dissident 'Iidagale militia in their opposition to Mohamed Ibrahim Egal's administration. Their relations with their eastern neighbours, the Habar Je'elo, traditionally involve some friction, and the two often find themselves on opposite sides of divisive political issues (also the case in Somaliland at the moment). . In the south-east corner of their territory, the Habar Yonis share a border with the Dhulbahante with whom they have cordial relations, despite a more general Isaaq-Dhulbahante hostility. Even during the SNM's struggle against Siyaad Barre, trade and travel between Isaaq and Dhulbahante could continue through this peculiar juncture. "






"The Garhajis sub-clan live in all regions of Somaliland with the expection of Awdal

The Habar Yoonis is a Somali clan, part of the larger -Garxajis- Isaaq group. The Habar Yoonis have representation from across Somaliland & Sizeable Population - All across the 4 Major cites Hargiesa , Berbera , Burco , Erigavo , with the exception of Awdal region in the far east part of the country....
(Saciid Garhejis). Garhajis have very large populations throughout the Ethiopia Hawd area's and in the main cities of Somaliland. Habar Yoonis is larger of the two sub-clans of Garhajiis"






"The Habar Yoonis is a sub-clan of the Sheik Isaaq clan. They are famous for being the only sub-clan in Somaliland that has a sizable population in all the cities of Somaliland and Ethopia's Somali region. One of the ancestral cities of the Habar Yoonis is Burco and the Aroori plain, which they still inhabit and control to a great degree."
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Re: Beelwaynta Cawrmale(Warsangeli)

Postby sheekh-Farax-zero » Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:17 am

Highland wrote:Shekh, if you can't figure out the differences btw me and oldeglish, you are truly retarded.

Second, you call yourself Harti and you are the first to project Xaasidnimo and Envy on us. Lol.

Awrmaleh is one of the sub-clans of Cismaan Ibraahim Warsangeli.
They are one of the largest clans in Lower Juba and hold the most Productive land.
I am just surprised that such stupidity and envy is coming from someone who claims to be MJ. Of course, not all MJs share with your warped thoughts and hostility as the article briefly illustrates along with Dhulbahante.


sxb sorry if you are not oldenglish,
B/w i expressed only my views that has nothing to do with xaasidnimo, talking about my experience
i have Cawramaleh neigbours and i never saw them claiming Daarod.

mida kale wiil familka ka mid ah ayaa berito football la ciyaara, wallaah arintaan darteed ayaan u waydiiin
inay daarood yihiin , it ''ll be my 1st time asking someone's qabiil. :lol:


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