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Murax: Prove that Morgan liberated Bardheere.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:22 am
by Captain24
In the "Cumar Mohamud" thread you claimed Bardheere was liberated by some Marehan generals(can't remember their name). Haye, go read here from the Washington Post
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The 325 U.S. Marines left at this scorched and dusty crossroads in a desolate corner of western Somalia have coined a sad motto summing up their desire to go home: "The Forgotten, the Few - the Baardheerans."

Most of the time, Baardheere is engulfed by a powdery fine reddish- gray sand that fills nostrils, stains clothes and wreaks havoc on truck engines and weapons parts. When it rains, the town becomes submerged in a three-foot-deep river of brown mud. Said Master Gunnery Sgt. Ross Cochron of El Paso, as he was surveying the barren landscape around the dirt and gravel airstrip here, "We figured the good Lord took one day off and let his disciples build this place."

Elsewhere around the "famine belt" of southern Somalia, the U.S. Marines and Army soldiers who moved into its desolate towns last December have pulled back to Mogadishu, the Somali capital, and at least half of the initial intervention force has already gone home. Security for Somalia's towns has been turned over to various other nations of the American-led coalition - the Australians in Baidoa, the Canadians in Beledweyne, the French in Oddur.

Baardheere, however, remains the last U.S. military outpost outside the capital, and American military officials in Mogadishu concede that they have had trouble finding another country willing to send troops to this forgotten town. Indians were once rumored to be coming. Now Pakistanis are said to be considering taking over here. But the Marines in Baardheere - who first arrived here on Christmas Eve to a dramatic welcome from a famished and war-weary population - continue to wait. And wait.

Their feelings of homesickness have been intensified because the Marines - many of whom arrived here with the first intervention wave and are now on their second posting in Baardheere - believe they accomplished their mission long ago.

Indeed, to a returning visitor who saw Baardheere last fall - during the most desperate days of Somalia's famine and death - the town is a vastly different place today and stands as one of this devastated country's most dramatic success stories.

"The job was done, and it was done well," said Lance Cpl. Reuben Herrera of Yoakum, Tex. In the words of Cpl. Scott Tessier of Manchester, N.H., the Marines' mission here was "to kick {butt}, feed some people - and go home."

To make life more bearable for the remaining U.S. forces - and to prepare for the expected rainy season this month - Army engineers spent three weeks constructing a new camp of plywood and hard-back tents, with permanent buildings three feet high on stilts in the style of Southeast Asian huts. The huts are connected by an intricate network of plywood planks. For recreation, there is now a baseball diamond and courts for basketball and volleyball. The Marines have named their space Camp Higgins, in honor of William R. Higgins, the Marine lieutenant colonel serving on a U.N. observer mission in southern Lebanon who was kidnapped in 1988 and slain by terrorists the next year.

Marine officers here say that in building Camp Higgins, they were reminded of the line in the Kevin Costner movie "Field of Dreams," about a farmer who builds a baseball diamond in his cornfield and attracts early legends of the sport - "If you build it, they will come." The Marines of Baardheere were hoping that their well- constructed camp might entice another country to send its soldiers here to replace them. "We figured if we built this camp, they would come - but they didn't," Cochron said.

Last August and September, Baardheere had one of the highest daily death tolls in Somalia. More than 300 people were dying each day from starvation or malnutrition-related diseases. By October, Baardheere had run out of shrouds for the dead, and survivors were using empty sacks of donated rice to wrap bodies. Gravediggers worked from dawn until dusk under the hot sun, burying bodies in shallow graves alongside the Juba River, where the ground was less parched.

Baardheere also was the scene of fighting between two of Somalia's premier warlords, Mohamed Farah Aideed and Mohamed Said Hersi Morgan. Aideed briefly held the town and made it his regional headquarters, entertaining visiting journalists and inviting them to lunch while, all around, townspeople were starving to death. Then Morgan's forces moved in from across the Kenyan border, routed Aideed's troops and reclaimed Baardheere. Throughout this back-and-forth power play, Baardheere's death rate rose.

As throughout Somalia in the months before the U.S. intervention, no matter which warlord controlled Baardheere, the powerless became the forgotten victims. In the feeding center here, well-fed young thugs with machine guns slung over their shoulders often were seen beating starving people, the elderly and small children with branches and sticks.

All of that changed, however, after the Marines arrived. They found a town that had been starved to death. "The city of Baardheere was in sad shape," said Lt. Col. Mike Sullivan of San Diego, commander of the Marine detachment here. "The city itself was empty of people. There were no children - they were sick, they were dying." The Marines discovered an orphanage filled with hundreds of emaciated children, most of whom had lost all of their family members to starvation or war.

That was when Sullivan launched what he calls his "hearts and minds" campaign. After declaring the town a "weapons-free zone," Sullivan and his Marines began a widespread civic campaign in the town's hospital and the orphanages. Calling in Army engineers, they built plywood schoolhouses and asked their wives and family members back in the United States to send crayons, chalk and other needed school supplies.

In a kind of modern-day example of turning swords into plowshares, the Marines took materials from confiscated weapons and used them to build a playground. The rotating turret from an antiaircraft gun became a merry-go-round. Part of a truck was cut and welded to become a slide. The gun mounts from old antiaircraft guns now mount seesaws.

There are, of course, still problems in Baardheere. About a dozen people still die each day here, mostly from diseases related to poor sanitary conditions and the bad water supply from the Juba River. Malaria is rife, measles still kill small children, tuberculosis is rampant. There are still malnourished Somalis at the feeding center. But compared to the nightmarish city of death Baardheere had become last fall, the difference now is stark.

The 325 Baardheere-based Marines say that if there is any consolation to their extended stay here, it is that the town is far friendlier - and safer - than Mogadishu. That first wave of Marines last December rotated out to Mogadishu for one month, endured nightly sniper fire and rock-throwing children and were then sent back here for a second tour.

But while the Marines are waiting for a new force to arrive and replace them, the people of Baardheere express anxiety about the prospect that the Americans might soon, one day, be going home. "The U.S. must stay," said town elder Bishar Adan Ahmed. "We don't want anyone else. We understand each other now. We don't want somebody else who just arrives. It's hard for us to understand why they are leaving."

Re: Murax: Prove that Morgan liberated Bardheere.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:27 am
by Voltage
Morgan was Marehan until 1997. He was nurtured by Marehan, decorated by Marehan, fled with Marehan, fought for Marehan, was married to Siad Barre's daughter, and was a high ranking member and one with a big profile in the Marehan-only SNF. It is only when he was adopted into the Majeerteen clan in that 1997 that he became a nobody and has been a nobody since. Who ever denied this? :lol:

Re: Murax: Prove that Morgan liberated Bardheere.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:30 am
by Captain24
No actually, Morgan retired from Politics when the game was right, Unlike Hiiraale who's still being a warlord and pulling Abdi Bille left to right and today sitting in Dolow with hopes of getting back to Kismayo.

What happened to high ranking Marehan officials, how come You'll need Morgan to lead the war against Aidiid?

Re: Murax: Prove that Morgan liberated Bardheere.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:34 am
by Voltage
Lol @ retired. The same Morgan who flew to Muqdisho overnight when Seeraar was kicked out of Kismaayo and the Cayr told him sorry JVA exists at Marehan's discretion. Anaga ma xukuno. The same Morgan who has now exhausted ever single Marehan contact he has in Nairobi trying to be re-adopted into Marehan so if Al Shabaab is broken he is on good standing with Marehan? Lol @ retired. More like a forced dismissal. :lol:

The only thing Morgan achieved in the civil war was flying directly to Nairobi and giving interviews to the media while General Cumar Xaaji, Barre and the rest of SNF were actually drawing up battle plans. Waligaa ha is barbardhigin.

Re: Murax: Prove that Morgan liberated Bardheere.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:38 am
by nomadicwarlord
Morgan pimped Siad Daughters :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Murax: Prove that Morgan liberated Bardheere.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:40 am
by Captain24
Yet all those Generals, nobody dared to lead the war against Aidiid, they were chased from Moqdisho, from Gedo, and even Aidiid tried follow them to Mandera if not for the Kenyans lool.

Morgan took over Kismayo with only 300 men, and No General in Somalia is close to Gen Morgan,and all Somalis know.

Don't let the hate cloud your judgment

Re: Murax: Prove that Morgan liberated Bardheere.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:41 am
by Voltage
Captain24 wrote:Yet all those Generals, nobody dared to lead the war against Aidiid, they were chased from Moqdisho, from Gedo, and even Aidiid tried follow them to Mandera if not for the Kenyans lool.

Morgan took over Kismayo with only 300 men, and No General in Somalia is close to Gen Morgan,and all Somalis know.

Don't let the hate cloud your judgment


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Murax: Prove that Morgan liberated Bardheere.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:42 am
by Somalistan
Last August and September, Baardheere had one of the highest daily death tolls in Somalia. More than 300 people were dying each day from starvation or malnutrition-related diseases. By October, Baardheere had run out of shrouds for the dead, and survivors were using empty sacks of donated rice to wrap bodies. Gravediggers worked from dawn until dusk under the hot sun, burying bodies in shallow graves alongside the Juba River, where the ground was less parched.
:cry: sad story there.

Re: Murax: Prove that Morgan liberated Bardheere.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:51 am
by Murax
Captain,

Let Me tell You the difference between Me and You. When You go for information on Somalia, You sit around in fadhi ku dirir circles with odayaal that were literily nothing in Somalia. Me on the other Hand, I have access to former Defense Minister's, Family of the Former Vice President Kulmiye Afrax aun, Cornels etc. Heck Morgan's own family I grew up with them, and know them personally. Morgan was Chairman of the SNF, and SNF was Marexaan. Morgan, Had nothing to do with Your until 1997. Infact as soon as He captured Kista, He put a Marexaan as mayor. It was only in '97 When He felt Marexaan were finished, He tried to kiss and make up with Majerteen to heal the wounds. He made Himself a little coalition, but He got His azz handed to Him, even blowing up the bridge When Marexaan forces crossed kamsumah.

Re: Murax: Prove that Morgan liberated Bardheere.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:52 am
by Captain24
Dude, read it again, how is this piece from Fadhi ku dirir? It's from the Washington Post dude :lol: :lol:

Re: Murax: Prove that Morgan liberated Bardheere.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:55 am
by Voltage
Somalistan wrote:
Last August and September, Baardheere had one of the highest daily death tolls in Somalia. More than 300 people were dying each day from starvation or malnutrition-related diseases. By October, Baardheere had run out of shrouds for the dead, and survivors were using empty sacks of donated rice to wrap bodies. Gravediggers worked from dawn until dusk under the hot sun, burying bodies in shallow graves alongside the Juba River, where the ground was less parched.
:cry: sad story there.


Yup but we are men. We have rebounded and moved on. You won't ever catch us calaacaling like raped virgin girls like you. :lol: :lol:

Re: Murax: Prove that Morgan liberated Bardheere.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:57 am
by Voltage
Murax wrote:He put a Marexaan as mayor.


Abdullahi Wagad and Morgan never wanted to break with Marehan but like everyone else he believed Marehan power was annihilated by Al Itihad vs. Ethiopia war. In the end he was thinking like the military strategist he always and he thought his patron were finished he tried to jump ship but it come to bit him. :lol:

Re: Murax: Prove that Morgan liberated Bardheere.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:58 am
by Captain24
Somalistan, most of that from the Rahanweyn clan who reside part of Bardheere. You can't convince anyone the Marehans who looted the national treasure would die from hanger just four years after they were driven out

Re: Murax: Prove that Morgan liberated Bardheere.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:59 am
by Voltage
Captain24 wrote:Wasn't most of that from the Rahanweyn clan who reside part of Bardheere or it was both clans?


It doesn't matter. It is not like Marehan coasted through the civil war themselves. Everyone saw dhibaato. :lol:

Re: Murax: Prove that Morgan liberated Bardheere.

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:04 am
by Somalistan
Voltage wrote:
Somalistan wrote:
Last August and September, Baardheere had one of the highest daily death tolls in Somalia. More than 300 people were dying each day from starvation or malnutrition-related diseases. By October, Baardheere had run out of shrouds for the dead, and survivors were using empty sacks of donated rice to wrap bodies. Gravediggers worked from dawn until dusk under the hot sun, burying bodies in shallow graves alongside the Juba River, where the ground was less parched.
:cry: sad story there.


Yup but we are men. We have rebounded and moved on. You won't ever catch us calaacaling like raped virgin girls like you. :lol: :lol:


It's not laughing matter boons. It was human tragedy and you should have learned something out of it instead of brushing aside like those lives meant nothing. Or are your people looma ooyaan? :cry: