AMISOM’s Heading to Puntland Amisom at Somaliland border

[THE_TRUTH1]

By Edmund Blair and Edith Honan

NAIROBI, May 7 (Reuters) – A military offensive has driven Somalia’s al Shabaab Islamist group out of major strongholds and deprived it of revenue sources, but its retreat to a southern valley and northern hills still poses a threat, the U.N. envoy to Somalia said.

The African Union’s AMISOM peacekeeping force and Somali soldiers have pushed the group, which wants to topple the Western-backed government, into smaller pockets of territory since launching an offensive last year.

But the group has continued to strike Mogadishu and other government-held areas with bomb and gun attacks from bases in the southern Juba Valley and in northern Puntland’s Galgala hills, a region outside the African Union’s area of operation.

“The AU-U.N. have just done a benchmarking review of AMISOM and the Somali national army, as well, and certainly they have recognised that Puntland is an area of concern,” U.N. envoy to Somalia, Nick Kay, told Reuters on Wednesday.

He said expanding AMISOM’s region of operations to the semi-autonomous region of Puntland was “under active consideration”, without saying when it might be agreed.

The Somali government has said that the Juba Valley, which lies in the far south near the strategic Kismayo port, was the next target for the military offensive, but has not said when.

Puntland, which has been slowly drawing closer to the federal government in Mogadishu, has agreed to integrate 3,000 of its forces into the Somali national army, Kay said.

On the political front, Kay said Somalia was laying the groundwork for a revised constitution, although preparations had been delayed, and for parliamentary and presidential elections in 2016. He said it was still not clear whether they could be on the basis of one person, one vote.

He said the government was committed to a process that is “more inclusive and more representative” than in 2012, when elders chose parliamentary lawmakers for their communities and lawmakers then chose the president.

One option would be to expand the number of people choosing the president to include elders, civil society, women’s groups and others, he said, adding it was up to Somalia to decide.

“We should not worry if the time that it needs to be really cemented takes a bit longer than had been originally anticipated,” Kay said.

“This is a country facing many problems and challenges, but they are the problems and challenges of a country coming together, rather than falling apart.”

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, on a surprise visit to Somalia on Tuesday, acknowledged the country’s progress and said the United States would start the process to re-establish a diplomatic mission there. (Editing by Susan Fenton)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/ ... 3T20150507

[WaaliCas]

The Mooryaan,

This has nothing to do with SL. The UN recently rated PL as same as Uganda occupied Mogadishu.

Lazzarini has previously answered Inner City Press about Somaliland’s airspace. On May 8 when Inner City Press asked about the UN’s dealings with Somaliland and Puntland, he said it is a big topic, but concretely the deadly attack on UNICEF in Puntland means one can no longer say Puntland more safe than, say, Mogadishu. But what about Somaliland? We will have more on this.

[Buraanbur]

AMISOM is trying to expand their area of influence, but they will not be deployed in Puntland. The day that agreement is signed is the day I will personally fly to Garowe and send Abdiweli to his maker.

[GAMES]

AMISOM is trying to expand their area of influence, but they will not be deployed in Puntland. The day that agreement is signed is the day I will personally fly to Garowe and send Abdiweli to his maker.

Well either that, or the terrorists in Buuraha Gal Gala. Since u guys cant defeat em.

[Buraanbur]

AMISOM is trying to expand their area of influence, but they will not be deployed in Puntland. The day that agreement is signed is the day I will personally fly to Garowe and send Abdiweli to his maker.

Well either that, or the terrorists in Buuraha Gal Gala. Since u guys cant defeat em.

AMISOM hasn't been able to defeat Shabaab in Mogadishu so why would they be needed in Puntland? The attacks in Puntland are not even 1/10th of the attacks in Mogadishu. The terrorists in Galgala are routinely defeated, but they're replaced like cockroaches. I don't know when people will finally wake up and realize that they are not dealing with people here, but an ideology. They need to set up a ministry for religious affairs, give out permits for mosques and regulate what is taught in them. Killing these idiots won't change much.

[Bari14]

AMISOM is a virus that infects itself to developing countries during times of turmoil and needs to stay away from Puntland.

[WaaliCas]

AMISOM is danger to the Somali identity and their goal is not to stabilize any region but to get paid for breeding with local girls. They were making mere $100 per month back in their Bantu native country but now they are on $1,700 per month minimum. It makes no sense for a man to destroy his own cash cow. AMISOM defeating al Shabab means they go back home to their $100 wage.

To me I consider them danger and likewise I regard SL and PL the last two remaining pure Somali regions.

If I was Silanyo I would tell Gaas to put our difference aside and jointly conduct missions against al Shabab in Galgala and other regions. We should dismantle Khaatumo rebels too for the symbolic administration in Mogadishu uses them as proxy to deploy half-Bantu kids.

Some times you have to see beyond your Abdi Bile stationed in some little remote village.

I personally appreciate PL as it is a great buffer zone against southern Bantus including al Shabab and AMISOM. They are on the front line for original Somalis. So PLanders should regard me as an ally in their holy war against these dark forces. We will settle our little ego beefing mar kale


Bantunization is as much threat as ideological wahabism by Saudi "charities" including al Shabab

[Buraanbur]

Waalicas,

Puntland is not Mogadishu where they will just accept the presence of Bantus and the establishment of an apartheid wall. They have changed the demographics of the whole place. These Hutus have been mentally colonized by the Bantu to the point that the President of Mogadishu doesn't even go to the toilet without the Bantus escorting him.

Puntland and Mogadishu are culturally divergent. In Puntland we have elders, elders we actually respect, and these elders will never allow the deployment of Kikuyu and co. to Dal Udug. If Abdiweli tries to bypass the elders and invites those boxing glove nosed Fufus, hundreds of thousands of Puntlanders will pledge allegiance to Somaliland and bring the whole place to the ground.

[26June1960]

Buraanbur, I've heard that the Western donors want to force Gaas to give few thousand Puntland soldiers to the Mogadishu-based government, under the pretext of "creating Somali federal army"? Would you wlecome this? If no, why?

We remember back in 2005, the late Abdullahi Yusuf took few thousand Puntland soldiers with him down South and only few hundred (at the most) have returned back to Puntland. Could such fate await the future Puntlanders?

[Buraanbur]

Buraanbur, I've heard that the Western donors want to force Gaas to give few thousand Puntland soldiers to the Mogadishu-based government, under the pretext of "creating Somali federal army"? Would you wlecome this? If no, why?

We remember back in 2005, the late Abdullahi Yusuf took few thousand Puntland soldiers with him down South and only few hundred (at the most) have returned back to Puntland. Could such fate await the future Puntlanders?

That's a more difficult question. Out of principle, I oppose it because I don't think Puntland should have any involvement with the SFG but that is not the the policy of the Puntland government. On paper it looks nice: 3,000 soldiers that would be trained and then placed in the border regions with Somaliland aka SSC, but it's more than that. It opens the door for the SFG and SNA to enter Puntland as these forces would come under the command of the SNA and not the President of Puntland. Furthermore, they're trying to get AMISOM to be set-up base in Puntland so who's to stop a mixed qabil SNA from entering Puntland? No thank you.

At least when Abdullahi Yusuf(aun) was President of the TFG, the state and people were behind him and his goal to move the government to Mogadishu. Puntland nearly went bankrupt when they were financing the TFG. We live in another time now and no one will just sign up to the SNA to be placed god-knows-where.

[EvolSyawla]

They are importing HUNDREDS of armored vehicles - land cruisers and trucks - right now. Now this little tidbit makes me a little nervous. Are they mobilizing to move regions?

[EvolSyawla]

So PLanders should regard me as an ally in their holy war against these dark forces. We will settle our little ego beefing mar kale


Bantunization is as much threat as ideological wahabism by Saudi "charities" including al Shabab

[Kaafiye]

AMISOM is danger to the Somali identity and their goal is not to stabilize any region but to get paid for breeding with local girls. They were making mere $100 per month back in their Bantu native country but now they are on $1,700 per month minimum. It makes no sense for a man to destroy his own cash cow. AMISOM defeating al Shabab means they go back home to their $100 wage.

To me I consider them danger and likewise I regard SL and PL the last two remaining pure Somali regions.

If I was Silanyo I would tell Gaas to put our difference aside and jointly conduct missions against al Shabab in Galgala and other regions. We should dismantle Khaatumo rebels too for the symbolic administration in Mogadishu uses them as proxy to deploy half-Bantu kids.

Some times you have to see beyond your Abdi Bile stationed in some little remote village.

I personally appreciate PL as it is a great buffer zone against southern Bantus including al Shabab and AMISOM. They are on the front line for original Somalis. So PLanders should regard me as an ally in their holy war against these dark forces. We will settle our little ego beefing mar kale


Bantunization is as much threat as ideological wahabism by Saudi "charities" including al Shabab

Unfortunately, now we have hundreds of thousands of these foreign Bantus migrating to Puntland as well. Go to Bosaso, Qardho and Galkacyo and you'll see plenty of these people.

They're taking over our country piece by piece.

[EvolSyawla]

What happened to the 2-year mandatory Military service? I think that was a great idea. What if it were implemented again? It would force Somalis from all corners to learn to respect their land and keep it for themselves. I think it's also a great character builder. Maybe I'm being fanciful, but it seems to me that countries that still do this have a fairly motivated and patriotic people.

[Buraanbur]

What happened to the 2-year mandatory Military service? I think that was a great idea. What if it were implemented again? It would force Somalis from all corners to learn to respect their land and keep it for themselves. I think it's also a great character builder. Maybe I'm being fanciful, but it seems to me that countries that still do this have a fairly motivated and patriotic people.

That's putting the cart before the horse. Somalis need genuine reconcilitation and justice ( i.e. Rwanda, South Africa) before starting something like conscription. Most of the people who are currently in the armed forces did not join out of patriotism, but for the money. One third of the pop. in Somalia has mental health issues, so arming people who are not mentally sound will have disastrous results.

Al-Shabaab continues to exist because weapons that were donated by the UN to the Somali National Army always seem to end up in the black market and then in the hands of Al-Shabaab.

The United Nations could slap a full arms embargo on Somalia following revelations that the Mogadishu government allowed the sale and diversion of weapons to foreign arms traffickers, criminals and terrorists.

While illegal acquisition of weapons is common in countries in the region, information in a UN report that Somalia’s army is the “greatest” supplier of arms to black markets, must worry East Africa’s security agents.

The UN’s Somalia and Eritrea Monitoring Group, whose mandate includes reporting on any violations of the arms embargo imposed on Somalia in 1992, said in the report that agents of the Al Qaeda-linked militants of Al Shabaab are known to frequent those black markets “to purchase weapons and ammunition and were easily identifiable by the salesmen there.”

The report points an accusing finger at the Somali government, which under UN resolution 2111 of last year, is required to report on the procedures and code of conduct it put in place for the registration, distribution and storage of weapons held by the country’s security forces as well as on training needs.

http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/So ... index.html

Imagine if Somalis were forced to join the army? We would a mentally ill population that are well-trained and have easy access to weapons . I don't see that ending well.