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Re: If you're not darood and

Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 11:48 am
by Kaafiye
I don't think any Somali should be refferred to as a "refugee". It don't matter if you are Darood,Issaq, Hawiye or anything else, if you are a law abiding citizen you should be more than welcome to live and work in Puntland, but if are hoodlum or a Alshabab sympathizer whos looking for nothing but trouble then you should be dealt with, regadless of you tribe, native Puntlanders who cause trouble are just as bad as none Puntlanders.

Somali civilians should be welcomed to live in all parts of dhulka somaliyeed, thats my taken on it.
Well said xamud...

Irregardless of qabiil, any somali person has a birth right to settle anywhere in puntland..no questions asked besides once legimate intentions of seeking to settle in the said location.

For all i care those that live in galmudug can move freely undisturbed and in peace anywhere between gaalkacyo ilaa the borders of ceerigaabo bila hadal..and no darood man or woman has a right that no other somali has besides the administration of puntland..

Somalinimo and siyaasad are two different tectonic plates...


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So long as they're real ethnic Somalis, then I see no issue with Somalis from different regions migrating around the country. It's all Somali territory

Re: If you're not darood and

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:52 am
by TheMightyNomad
Somalia was "Hal" for 31 years of our history. All that's left is Italian Somaliland, a union forced on my people for all of 13 years. Why should I act like that's my true history? Centralism is a concept introduced to Somalis by the colonial powers and I will not respect it. We must return to our true history and dissociate ourselves from this fiction feed to us by Europeans. :MJ:
I totally agree. Central Government was a failure and it will ALWAYS be a failure for Somalis.

The best thing we can hope for, is to create some sort of Association of Somali States, where each autonomous Somali state pursues it's own policies and has their own regional government. Perhaps we can share a currency, military, and other important things.

But the days of Mogadishu controlling the entire nation is over. Somalis won't stand for that.
i agree with you guys on here Federalism or just blatant centralism wont work both are concepts adopted from europeans!

What will work is Decentralized unitary state

http://english.dohainstitute.org/file/G ... 64b9b9964b
Decentralization as a model for governance begins as a broad concept that is flexible,
and gives nations a number of tools. It is distinct from the federalism model:75 G.
Shabbir Cheema and Dennis A. Rondinelli define decentralization as “transfer of
authority, responsibility and resources – through deconcentration, delegation or
devolution – from the centre to lower levels of administration.”76 While in a
decentralized unitary system sovereignty and the constitutional powers remain within
national state, the national government decentralizes administrative, political and fiscal
powers to different entities including regions. For example, in decentralized systems
there is a de-concentration of authority, which is delegated in order to respond to local
service needs. The model also gives the central government final control of regional and
local governments. Another option in creating a representative governance model, as
Dennis Rondinelli notes, is devolution. As the most “extreme form of decentralization”77
it allows the central government to establish “independent levels and units of
government.”78 It also provides local officials with the authority, responsibility and
resources in order to make decisions and implement them
the best thing was to make more states with less power. US has 51 states!

we already have the borders for it one thing i disagree on is independent puntland somalia should always be united!