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James Dahl's History of Somalis, based on my research

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James Dahl's History of Somalis, based on my research

Postby James Dahl » Wed May 20, 2009 2:36 pm

From my research into the history of the Somali people, I have come to several conclusions.

The Somali people are descended primarily from two groups of people, two related and now forgotten people the Saamaalo and Orma, and the Arabs that conquered them around 700 C.E. (or about 50 A.H.).

The Saamaalo today are split. Half of the Saamaalo have joined the Boorana confederation (Boorana means east-facing) and today their descendants make up the Tuulama Boorana Oromo (Jarso, Dacci, Kono, Jille, etc). The other half were conquered by the Caliphate and today make up the Irir and Gardheere Samaale (Dir, Hawiye, Rendille etc)

The Orma are also split today. Some Orma remained simply Orma, others joined the Boorana confederation and make up most of the "Sabbo" moeity. Others were conquered by the Caliphate and today make up the Digil and Mirifle people.

Both the Orma and the Saamaalo in the pre-Islamic traditions claim descent from their ancestor, Horo, or Horu, thus making them "Horomo". When the various members of the Boorana and Barentuma confederations were trying to forge an identity for themselves seperate from the "Galla" name assigned by their various enemies and oppressors, they chose "Oromo", due to these common legends.

It is my belief that Horo or Horu is none other than Heru, otherwise known as Horus, who has been identified by several scholars with Cush, who in Biblical and Qu'ranic tradition is the son of Ham.

The Arabian conquerers arrived in Eritrea and Mogadishu about 700 C.E. and established several lineages, such as the Jeberti. In successive waves the conquerors expanded to include much of the horn of Africa in the Caliphate by 800 C.E. When the Abbasid Caliphate collapsed in around 900 C.E., many regions re-asserted their traditional independence from the Caliphate, such as the Argobba in Shewa and the Hadiya and related people around Harar. Arabian lineages dating back to the first invasion, such as the Jeberti established themselves throughout the horn.

After this date, more reliable history begins and you don't need me to tell you what happened after this.

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Re: James Dahl's History of Somalis, based on my research

Postby Voltage » Wed May 20, 2009 2:37 pm

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Re: James Dahl's History of Somalis, based on my research

Postby FAH1223 » Wed May 20, 2009 2:39 pm

james you have a new map out :?:

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Re: James Dahl's History of Somalis, based on my research

Postby Buhodle-Gurl » Wed May 20, 2009 2:40 pm

Bullshit :roll: :arrow:

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Re: James Dahl's History of Somalis, based on my research

Postby Shirib » Wed May 20, 2009 2:41 pm

Do yourself a favor and stop this crap

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Re: James Dahl's History of Somalis, based on my research

Postby Somaliman50 » Wed May 20, 2009 2:41 pm

James, the Hadya, were they from the two branches?

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Re: James Dahl's History of Somalis, based on my research

Postby James Dahl » Wed May 20, 2009 2:43 pm

James, the Hadya, were they from the two branches?
I am not sure.
Hadiya are related to Adare (Hararis) and Argobba, who are all Gurage people.
Hadiya, Adare and Argobba, in fact all Gurage, are most likely descended from Axumites who became Muslims.

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Re: James Dahl's History of Somalis, based on my research

Postby Murax » Wed May 20, 2009 2:44 pm

James,

Excellent stuff!

Destroying ridiculous Arab lineage myths :up: :lol:

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Re: James Dahl's History of Somalis, based on my research

Postby Voltage » Wed May 20, 2009 2:44 pm

Do yourself a favor and stop this crap
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Re: James Dahl's History of Somalis, based on my research

Postby Ina Baxar » Wed May 20, 2009 2:45 pm

I'm glad you didn't mention our name in your stuff !

Most of the mareexan are the BET daroods , they don't like to have anything to do with arabs :lol:

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Re: James Dahl's History of Somalis, based on my research

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Wed May 20, 2009 2:46 pm

James,

Excellent stuff!

Destroying ridiculous Arab lineage myths :up: :lol:
Murax = God Fearing Africanist :up:

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Re: James Dahl's History of Somalis, based on my research

Postby James Dahl » Wed May 20, 2009 2:47 pm

James,

Excellent stuff!

Destroying ridiculous Arab lineage myths :up: :lol:
I don't believe that the Arabian lineages are all incorrect, the Caliphate conquered Somalia in 700 C.E. This is documented in both Axumite and Arabian records, though the extent of the conquest is vastly downplayed by modern historians. The conquerors are the Arabian ancestors.

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Re: James Dahl's History of Somalis, based on my research

Postby Somaliman50 » Wed May 20, 2009 2:48 pm

James, the Hadya, were they from the two branches?
I am not sure.
Hadiya are related to Adare (Hararis) and Argobba, who are all Gurage people.
Hadiya, Adare and Argobba, in fact all Gurage, are most likely descended from Axumites who became Muslims.
James, what are the chances that Hawiye is related to Hadya? :lol:

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Re: James Dahl's History of Somalis, based on my research

Postby James Dahl » Wed May 20, 2009 2:50 pm

James, the Hadya, were they from the two branches?
I am not sure.
Hadiya are related to Adare (Hararis) and Argobba, who are all Gurage people.
Hadiya, Adare and Argobba, in fact all Gurage, are most likely descended from Axumites who became Muslims.
James, what are the chances that Hawiye is related to Hadya? :lol:
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I don't know. It is possible, but unlikely. 10%?
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Re: James Dahl's History of Somalis, based on my research

Postby James Dahl » Wed May 20, 2009 2:57 pm

james you have a new map out :?:
I'm a bit too busy to do the map anymore. Also, it was discouraging how hard it was to keep it accurate, and it always proved to be less than accurate in the end.


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