JVA Days in Kismaayo

[Substance]

Reading this thread one would think kismayo has become Singapore under Kenyan administration.

[Sagaashan]

Substance, you are deflecting the question. What has JVA done for Kismaayo close to a decade? I ask this in a sincere and informative way, I never followed Kismaayo politics. They guys at the helm seem to be genuinely interested in building what seems to be an orderly government from scratch, one modelled after Somaliland and Puntland. Was Barre so preoccupied that he had no time to build/renovate one government building

[Titanium]

Kismayo's competitor is not Hargeisa. Not even close and will never reach Hargeisa. I include Baydhabo and Bosaso as well

Kismayo is in competition with Afgoye, Jowhar and Beledweyne. Similar populations sizes, similar size of economic activity, similar potential, etc. I'd include Merka and Barawe since the size is similar but those cities are a joke to Kismayo. I am trying to be as fair as possible. Afgoye and Jowhar is where all our food is grown so don't dismiss those places.

[GIJaamac]

Kismayo's competitor is not Hargeisa. Not even close and will never reach Hargeisa. I include Baydhabo and Bosaso as well

Kismayo is in competition with Afgoye, Jowhar and Beledweyne. Similar populations sizes, similar size of economic activity, similar potential, etc. I'd include Merka and Barawe since the size is similar but those cities are a joke to Kismayo. I am trying to be as fair as possible. Afgoye and Jowhar is where all our food is grown so don't dismiss those places.

No. Beledweyne is actually almost 3 times bigger than Kismayo. So no competition there buddy.

[original dervish]

When we speak of the potential of Kismayo, we are referring to the whole region of J/Land.
This region alone has the potential to feed the entire country.
Of course this will take years of hard work.....but hey...we got all the time in the world.

[STARKAST]

Any city with no hutus is going to be a success story this is the truth just think about it.....also Kismaayo is a costal city so it may eclipse hargeisa, bay, beled etc etc, its extremely strategically located.

Sagaashan, stop bugging him both brother og iyo mx will build the lands together.

[Sagaashan]

Titanium,

I agree to some degree, but Baydhabo the Ethiopian dust pin

Hargeysa is up there man, it will be hard to catch up with them. What OD doesnt understand perhaps is city are defined by the number of people in it. In this regards, people are gold. Xamar and Hargeysa have large populations (though langaab in world standards), that goods and services will be relocated to this place, direct investment and foreingers will flock to them as well. Though I don't know about these small cities you mention, Kismaayo undoubtly will always be the 3rd Somali city. No small town without port can compete with it. But like i said its got its work cut for them.

[Substance]

Substance, you are deflecting the question. What has JVA done for Kismaayo close to a decade? I ask this in a sincere and informative way, I never followed Kismaayo politics. They guys at the helm seem to be genuinely interested in building what seems to be an orderly government from scratch, one modelled after Somaliland and Puntland. Was Barre so preoccupied that he had no time to build/renovate one government building

Well let all foreigners leave and lets see if they renovate a building or fight for their lifes. I would guess for the latter one. It's not same. Different times and different conditions. Besides let's be frank; they haven't accomplished nothing worth mentioning and speaking about visions, everyone got them and its not arguement in itself. Everybody is interested in building a orderly goverment.

[Estarix]

J/Land/Kismayo will surpass xamar within a decade.

skilled and dynamic population,

These jebertis are hallucinating wlhi.
Kismaayo has population of 100.000 while xamar has +3 million. Kismaayo is literally the size of 1 xaafad in xamar.
Also Kismaayo has the most backward people in Somalia regardless of their clan. I mean the town got it first motor well and water pipes installed since the creation of the town couple months ago. Forget about the health system. You don't want to see the situation over there. Very sad place.

Where did you get these mogadishu numbers from?

[Titanium]

GIJamaac, it looks a bit bigger on Google Earth

Sagaashan, Kismayo is not Somalia's third city. Afgoye and Jowhar are not small. They are very densely populated places well over 100,000. Baydhabo is the second largest city in all of Somalia not including Somaliland. Don't dismiss that place either.

Estarix, http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/201 ... 342548858/

[Murax]

Sagaashan,


There were not 10,000 trained peacekeepers with a mandate in J/land who receiveinternational logistics and funding the way there is now. Barre Hiiraale was able to keep order with His militia and contrary to what people think Kismayo was stable from `1999-2006. Whatever good is happening in Kismayo now I give credit to the people who paid for and facilitated those things which is IGAD/AU.

[Colonel]

^ Those people are OG, whether in IGAD, the Kenyan gov or Somalia proper.

The project is OG from bottom up.

Substance,

Honest question sxb, what army do you have that can take on Ras Kamboni + the thousands of Ogaden TFG troops? You guys aren't even united

One group smart enough to know their place and taking a back seat behind Absame, another didn't know their limits and got send to the jungles, and the last relying on Ethiopian & Kenyan troops for survival.

[SecretAgent]

Darods r broke nothing built in kismayo for 2 years of peace