Very odd thing to manufacture. What does the opposition gain from manufacturing this? Like you said, i doubt very few somalis care about Tigray. They’ve already denied that soldiers were sent to fight in Tigray, so why not provide proof of their whereabouts to the families? It’s very simple.Nomand wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:39 pm MrSinister,
Maybe they aren't saying anything because it is manufactured. It would be very difficult to keep something this big quiet. We would have seen soldiers leaving the front lines and exposing it. Not a few old ladies on TV. Plus a war with 100 percent attrition rate has never happened in the history of mankind.
The only war with 99 percent attrition rate is armageddon. According to the hadith.
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It is manufactured to create hysteria. And why are there only a dozen of families always on mucaarid media saying their sons are missing in Eritrea and why are those families always in mogadishu.MrSinister wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:49 pmVery odd thing to manufacture. What does the opposition gain from manufacturing this? Like you said, i doubt very few somalis care about Tigray. They’ve already denied that soldiers were sent to fight in Tigray, so why not provide proof of their whereabouts to the families? It’s very simple.Nomand wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:39 pm MrSinister,
Maybe they aren't saying anything because it is manufactured. It would be very difficult to keep something this big quiet. We would have seen soldiers leaving the front lines and exposing it. Not a few old ladies on TV. Plus a war with 100 percent attrition rate has never happened in the history of mankind.
The only war with 99 percent attrition rate is armageddon. According to the hadith.
It is estimated that 3000 soldiers where sent to Eritrea for training and according to the mucaarids themselves most are from buhoodle, caabudwaaq and goldobog.
Surely we would have seen angry families in those cities? Why is it always only angry mothers from Mogadishu?
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Those are farmajo friendly regions and likely the families could have been paid off to keep quiet.Nomand wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:56 pmIt is manufactured to create hysteria. And why are there only a dozen of families always on mucaarid media saying their sons are missing in Eritrea and why are those families always in mogadishu.MrSinister wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:49 pmVery odd thing to manufacture. What does the opposition gain from manufacturing this? Like you said, i doubt very few somalis care about Tigray. They’ve already denied that soldiers were sent to fight in Tigray, so why not provide proof of their whereabouts to the families? It’s very simple.Nomand wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:39 pm MrSinister,
Maybe they aren't saying anything because it is manufactured. It would be very difficult to keep something this big quiet. We would have seen soldiers leaving the front lines and exposing it. Not a few old ladies on TV. Plus a war with 100 percent attrition rate has never happened in the history of mankind.
The only war with 99 percent attrition rate is armageddon. According to the hadith.
It is estimated that 3000 soldiers where sent to Eritrea for training and according to the mucaarids themselves most are from buhoodle, caabudwaaq and goldobog.
Surely we would have seen angry families in those cities? Why is it always only angry mothers from Mogadishu?
Let’s recap:
Farmajo has good relationship with Abiy and Afwerki. Somali soldiers were sent to Eriteria for training. Isn’t likely some of these soldiers were sent to the frontline against TPLF? If they were not, then all farmajo has to do is provide a list of all of the soldiers sent to Eriteria for training and their current whereabouts. Instead we get all of this nonsense denials and Cbb trolls calling everything fake news.
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MrSinister,
How can a broke government pay off hush money to thousands of families ?. Plus I don't think there is such a thing as being pro farmaajo when it come to the wellbeing of your children.
Every parent would demand to know the whereabouts of their children. The wellbeing of your child out trumps anything else.
Why should farmaajo provide a list of soldiers their names and where they are from don't you think that would create a target on their back plus shabaab would harass their families.
How can a broke government pay off hush money to thousands of families ?. Plus I don't think there is such a thing as being pro farmaajo when it come to the wellbeing of your children.
Every parent would demand to know the whereabouts of their children. The wellbeing of your child out trumps anything else.
Why should farmaajo provide a list of soldiers their names and where they are from don't you think that would create a target on their back plus shabaab would harass their families.
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Nomand,
There would be no need for speculation if the government did the right thing an provided answers to these families. What are you arguing here? That families should be kept completely in the dark about the whereabouts of their children or whether they are alive or dead. The onus is on the so called government to provide information either privately to these families or publicly. It is very obvious when a government is trying to hide damaging information from getting out. Some of you people are heartless. You are more likely to believe a third world corrupt government than grieving families.
There would be no need for speculation if the government did the right thing an provided answers to these families. What are you arguing here? That families should be kept completely in the dark about the whereabouts of their children or whether they are alive or dead. The onus is on the so called government to provide information either privately to these families or publicly. It is very obvious when a government is trying to hide damaging information from getting out. Some of you people are heartless. You are more likely to believe a third world corrupt government than grieving families.
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My argument is how do we know those "families" are families of soldiers sent to Eritrea. and if soldiers sent to Eritrea where infact on the front line how come no mothers from caabudwaaq, buhoodle and goldobog are not also going infront of a camera and asking about the whereabouts of their children.MrSinister wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:45 pm Nomand,
There would be no need for speculation if the government did the right thing an provided answers to these families. What are you arguing here? That families should be kept completely in the dark about the whereabouts of their children or whether they are alive or dead. The onus is on the so called government to provide information either privately to these families or publicly. It is very obvious when a government is trying to hide damaging information from getting out. Some of you people are heartless. You are more likely to believe a third world corrupt government than grieving families.
all i am saying is the story of somali soldiers sent to Eritrea changes a lot depending on which narrative suits the mucaarids the best. one day it is farmaajo is training secretly a darood army full of marehan, leelkase and dhulbahante and these soldiers are going to fight hawiye the next day it is a dozen mothers all in mogadishu accusing the government of hiding the whereabout of their kids in Eritrea.
is it farmaajo is training a private darod army?
or did farmaajo sent hawiye soldiers to fight in Tigray?
which of the mucaarids story shall we believe?
i would also like to highlight the bolded statement. if the government did not provide information to families secretly we would have seen thousands of families in front of the camera. it is precisely because the goverment is providing information to families secretly that only a dozen or so mothers are infront of the camera and not thousands.
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Reer Gedo are working over time to defend Farmaajo no xishood wallahi.
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Peperino, you are a class act my friend. Sweet, simple, strong---rumor begins....rumor quashed.paperino wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:59 pmSomalia wasn't mentioned a single time on the link, however, in the attached 17 page pdf file dated May 12, 'Somalia' was mentioned 3 times:MrSinister wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:27 pm Peperino
Here’s a link to the UN report
https://reliefweb.int/report/eritrea/re ... am-babiker
You should be advocating for the parents instead of shilling for a treasonous criminal like farmajo. Have some shame.
1. "The 2018 peace agreement between Ethiopia and Eritrea has resulted in much closer relations between the two countries, and has also led to closer links between Eritrea and Somalia. Nevertheless, border disputes between Eritrea and Djibouti persist,in addition to the issue of missing Djiboutian prisoners of war."
2. "The Government of Somalia denied the participation of Somali soldiers in the Tigray conflict."
3. "It is further reported that a Somali parliamentary committee has demanded an explanation from the President of Somalia on the whereabouts of the Somali troops sent to Eritrea."
'Somali soldiers' was mentioned a couple of times; claims/allegations of their involvement. The month old UN report doesn't accuse, charge, indict, etc Somalia of any violations; just that it has received claims/allegations. Furthermore, the report hasn't made any recommendations for Somalia. Simply put, this isn't a report that damns Somalia or its president.
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Sbashi, compare his unequivocal rumor quashing to the "firefighter" feeding gas to the flames.Sbashi wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:39 pmAfkaaga caana lagu qabay. Perfect answer. I couldn't say it any better.paperino wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:16 pmI don't think there's a precedent. If I'm wrong, perhaps you can cite a few examples of when/where it happened. I think training soldiers, their deployment in foreign countries to gain experience, conditions, whereabouts, etc is a matter of national security.MrSinister wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:04 pm If this all fake and there is nothing to hide. Why doesn’t the so called president provide answers to the parents of these soldiers?
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funny is how they want to discredit something real and embarrassing like how somali youths were used as cannon fodder and forced to fight in Tigray.AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:50 pm Reer Gedo are working over time to defend Farmaajo no xishood wallahi.
Yet they want us to believe on the fakenews they keep recycling about kenya bombing mx civilians. Just look at the latest lie they created about Cel Caade it was pure fabricated lies.
How on earth will an airplane bomb leave minor injuries on kids? The shapnel would have caused the kids to have injuries and brusies accross the body. Look at the picture you see a kid with a head bandage wrapped yet having no scratch marks on his face while another had only small injury on his hand like a graze yet looked untouched in other parts of the body. Then you have pictures of properties damaged by hurricane the rubble doesnt show any collapse of a building or even a depression made by the impact of the bomb.
Also how come it only hit one family why would kenya use a jet fighter and just drop one bomb? it should have shown an entire village decimated and burnt. Look at pictures if damage caused by airoplane bombs and compare that with effects of mother nature. Then you would know that CBB are so stupid that they couldnt even doctor fakenews.
Ceelcade is an AS stronghold how would the victims be transfered immediatly to xamar? especially victims with only minor injuries but in xamar they seem to have been put on ICU with major injuries?
Also what about the victims of Ethiopian masscres in baidoa and the civilian plane which was shot down by Ethiopians how come Farmajo regime never criticised?
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^^
Ceelcadde used to be Al Shabaab stronghold back in the days. But that is not the case any longer, just to correct you. It's not under Al Shabaab jurisdiction or control. When it comes to Jubbaland, Gedo has the least Al Shabaab territorial power. Al Shabaab strongholds in Jubbaland is Middle and Lower Jubba. Ironically these regions are rarely bombed by Kenya. I know that USA has air bombed Middle Jubba especially Jilib several times before. But anyways, keep defending your Kenyan masters.
Also dude, you sound so angry. This is ain't the forum of the early 2010s. If you want to share your opinion do it in a respectful and professional manner. You sound like those illiterate people. Also little advice, can you be more factual when you debate. All you do is spew lies and fabrication and conspiracy theories.
Ceelcadde used to be Al Shabaab stronghold back in the days. But that is not the case any longer, just to correct you. It's not under Al Shabaab jurisdiction or control. When it comes to Jubbaland, Gedo has the least Al Shabaab territorial power. Al Shabaab strongholds in Jubbaland is Middle and Lower Jubba. Ironically these regions are rarely bombed by Kenya. I know that USA has air bombed Middle Jubba especially Jilib several times before. But anyways, keep defending your Kenyan masters.
Also dude, you sound so angry. This is ain't the forum of the early 2010s. If you want to share your opinion do it in a respectful and professional manner. You sound like those illiterate people. Also little advice, can you be more factual when you debate. All you do is spew lies and fabrication and conspiracy theories.
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You start character assasination when you know your fakenews have been discredited.XimanJaale wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:19 pm ^^
Ceelcadde used to be Al Shabaab stronghold back in the days. But that is not the case any longer, just to correct you. It's not under Al Shabaab jurisdiction or control.
Also dude, you sound so angry. This is ain't the forum of the early 2010s. If you want to share your opinion do it in a respectful and professional manner. You sound like those illiterate people.
How is Ceelcade not under AS?
Is Filow or Abu Muscab dead?
Apart from areas where there is heavy ENDF present in Gedo.
Most of Gedo is under AS and there seems to be a working relationship especialy now that Fahad Yassin is in charge.
What I call real news is the selling out of young promising somali youth to be used as a cannon fodder for an illegal war in Tigray.
This youth were turned into slaves and were lied to through deception as they were duped to being taken abroad to study and have a brighter future for them to be only to be dumped in Eritrea and later like cattle sent to their deaths in Tigray without even proper trainning and weapons.
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What is there to assassinate when you write so foolishly. You claim something and you don't bring any proof. Show me these heavy ENDF forces in Gedo and show me these areas Al Shabaab control. Give me these sources and references.
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Ximanwhatbdo you know about the region apart from showing your face each time farmajo re appears.XimanJaale wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:45 pm What is there to assassinate when you write so foolishly. You claim something and you don't bring any proof. Show me these heavy ENDF forces in Gedo and show me these areas Al Shabaab control. Give me these sources and references.
You only came to this forum when Farmajo become a PM and left then you came back when Farmajo become a president once he leaves you will also disappear from this forum.
AS controls most of Gedo where there is no Ethiopian presence.Furthermore Abu Muscab( cali Xussein) is a high ranking AS member in Gedo so is Filow( Talxa) who was right hand man of Barre Hiraale apparently today he is AS top ranking member in Gedo.Thanks to fahad Yassin too who has provided MX AS with both cover and Support ever since he become incharge of NISA.
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