Marehan & Ogaden unilaterally reach deal to govern Kismaayo.
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Re: Marehan & Ogaden unilaterally reach deal to govern Kisma
If raskambooni and Somali national army can work together and compromise I see no reason why the shacab would oppose this new admin. We need proper courts system too based on shariah.
Zero sum game will never work for both sides.
Zero sum game will never work for both sides.
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Re: Marehan & Ogaden unilaterally reach deal to govern Kisma
Can you tell me where I said that?Colonel wrote:Besides if te president of Jubbaland turns out to be Absame then his deputy will be Sade as Voltage pointed so where is the need for war?:
The interim administration of Kismaayo right now (it has been captured for a while yet no admin yet) is this powers-sharing formula whcih will rotate every 20 days.
When Jubbaland State is announced, that interm administration will be disbanded immediately and it will be "past civil war".
There will not be a First President of Jubbaland State who is not Marehan considering we live in the majority of districts and will have the most representations. I don't think Absame will be the only deputy as has been told to me. There will be at least 3 Vice-Presidents.
But this for Jubbaland State is entirely different from the interim administration for Lower Jubba announced now which is temporary.
Re: Marehan & Ogaden unilaterally reach deal to govern Kisma
Not a bad arrangement. This will do until local elections are available, population then will determine who becomes the mayor and vice mayor. Assuming there will be
local elections in the near future.
local elections in the near future.
Re: Marehan & Ogaden unilaterally reach deal to govern Kisma
Murax,
I'm a big fan of Sheikh Ahmed Madoobe for the following reasons:
He is an Islamist.
Former member of ICU, this is excellent when it comes to credibility.
He's a local, not a random guy that lived confortably in the west for 20 yers and now wants the top seat.
Battle hardened veteran.
Personally I'd like to see him as either Mayor of Kismayo, Head of Jubbaland Forces or President however I'm not sure if the last one that would suit him best.
Sade members who's your candidate for the top seat?
Voltage don't start controversy in a positive thread, neither of us know who will be Jubbaland president so making such claims is fuile.
I'm a big fan of Sheikh Ahmed Madoobe for the following reasons:
He is an Islamist.
Former member of ICU, this is excellent when it comes to credibility.
He's a local, not a random guy that lived confortably in the west for 20 yers and now wants the top seat.
Battle hardened veteran.
Personally I'd like to see him as either Mayor of Kismayo, Head of Jubbaland Forces or President however I'm not sure if the last one that would suit him best.
Sade members who's your candidate for the top seat?
Voltage don't start controversy in a positive thread, neither of us know who will be Jubbaland president so making such claims is fuile.
Re: Marehan & Ogaden unilaterally reach deal to govern Kisma
I like that jab you threw in thereSiciid85 wrote:Not a bad arrangement. This will do until local elections are available, population then will determine who becomes the mayor and vice mayor. Assuming there will be
local elections in the near future.
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Re: Marehan & Ogaden unilaterally reach deal to govern Kisma
Who the hell gave madoobe the power to sign a treaty on behalf of all of us? He is a military man does he not know that you dont make deals with your enemies when they are weak? Marehan is currently crawling and is unable to defend gedo. Why make a deal with them regarding kismaayo when you can ship them back to galgaduud?
Madoobe made a big mistake and the absame leaders must correct this!
Re: Marehan & Ogaden unilaterally reach deal to govern Kisma
Colonel,
I think Madoobe should have a good role. However in My mind it shouldn't be a civil role, but something like Military, Police, etc. As far as My 'candidate' believe it or not I don't have one, nor do I really mind the tribe. Infact the only reason I've always wanted a Marehan is due to the gruesome civil war and the mustrust. That said if its someone who's just and puts rule of Law above clan. I wouldn't mind Farmaajo Himself or a Farmaajo type of any clan
Siciid85,
Kudos for not wanting blood to be spilled like some of ur cuzins
Voltage,
Ultimately I think IGAD will determine who wins for reasons nobody will know which is Why I'm not sure at all who would win or what clan they'd come from.
I think Madoobe should have a good role. However in My mind it shouldn't be a civil role, but something like Military, Police, etc. As far as My 'candidate' believe it or not I don't have one, nor do I really mind the tribe. Infact the only reason I've always wanted a Marehan is due to the gruesome civil war and the mustrust. That said if its someone who's just and puts rule of Law above clan. I wouldn't mind Farmaajo Himself or a Farmaajo type of any clan
Siciid85,
Kudos for not wanting blood to be spilled like some of ur cuzins
Voltage,
Ultimately I think IGAD will determine who wins for reasons nobody will know which is Why I'm not sure at all who would win or what clan they'd come from.
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Re: Marehan & Ogaden unilaterally reach deal to govern Kisma
Oh my god no Islamist
...I dont want extremist to run the admin
...I dont want extremist to run the admin-
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Re: Marehan & Ogaden unilaterally reach deal to govern Kisma
Madoobe is a genius and knows qaan marehan wa qaaxo kugu maqan, he saved many lives and prevented bloodshed. An admirable move indeed.metamorphosis wrote:Who the hell gave madoobe the power to sign a treaty on behalf of all of us? He is a military man does he not know that you dont make deals with your enemies when they are weak? Marehan is currently crawling and is unable to defend gedo. Why make a deal with them regarding kismaayo when you can ship them back to galgaduud?Madoobe made a big mistake and the absame leaders must correct this!

Re: Marehan & Ogaden unilaterally reach deal to govern Kisma
metamorphosis wrote:Who the hell gave madoobe the power to sign a treaty on behalf of all of us? He is a military man does he not know that you dont make deals with your enemies when they are weak? Marehan is currently crawling and is unable to defend gedo. Why make a deal with them regarding kismaayo when you can ship them back to galgaduud?Madoobe made a big mistake and the absame leaders must correct this!
So what You wanted was a war in the middle of 10,000 Kenyan troops like school childeren while they look on and laugh or maybe better for You jump in on Your behalf eh?
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Re: Marehan & Ogaden unilaterally reach deal to govern Kisma
Let peace reign. These men have proven a lot of people wrong, from those who would like them to fight, to those who thought they didn't have it in them, to those who wanted to stop Jubbaland, to all those naysayers around the world. May they keep surprising our expectations. In a years time I want to be able to travel freely to Jubbaland State of Somalia and find Kismaayo and the rest of Jubbaland cities with the same security and economic climate as Mogadishu.

Re: Marehan & Ogaden unilaterally reach deal to govern Kisma
Murax,
Sheikh Madoobe will definitely have an important role otherwise there won't be peace in the Holy City
He's already been Mayor of Kismayo during his ICU days so we know he's capable of fulfilling the role however I do agree that he may be most effective in a position such as Amiir of Jubbaland Forces.
Someone like Farmaajo would make a good president as long as they keep their secularism in check.
Sheikh Madoobe will definitely have an important role otherwise there won't be peace in the Holy City

He's already been Mayor of Kismayo during his ICU days so we know he's capable of fulfilling the role however I do agree that he may be most effective in a position such as Amiir of Jubbaland Forces.
Someone like Farmaajo would make a good president as long as they keep their secularism in check.
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Re: Marehan & Ogaden unilaterally reach deal to govern Kisma
Grandpa garabaharay mayn ahayn qaan marexano AS ku maqan? Where is the qaaxo? Murax I want all ilkoyars out of the city. I dont care for logistics and please dont say a war because that means both sides have a chance to win. Clearly marehan is weaker than ever. Whatever it takes to exert abame authority over the two jubbas. You can keep cadaabta somalia also known as gedo.
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Re: Marehan & Ogaden unilaterally reach deal to govern Kisma
He was the governor of Lower Jubba for ICU, the mayor of Kismaayo for ICU was Prof. Bashiir Jalato (Marehan).Colonel wrote:Murax,
Sheikh Madoobe will definitely have an important role otherwise there won't be peace in the Holy City
He's already been Mayor of Kismayo during his ICU days so we know he's capable of fulfilling the role however I do agree that he may be most effective in a position such as Amiir of Jubbaland Forces.
Re: Marehan & Ogaden unilaterally reach deal to govern Kisma
Colonel wrote:Murax,
Sheikh Madoobe will definitely have an important role otherwise there won't be peace in the Holy City
He's already been Mayor of Kismayo during his ICU days so we know he's capable of fulfilling the role however I do agree that he may be most effective in a position such as Amiir of Jubbaland Forces.
Someone like Farmaajo would make a good president as long as they keep their secularism in check.
That Amber Jamber dude the KDF spokesman on this site, and a well informed person on this whole IGAD inititive is a Somali Christian and You're talking about 'secularism' being kept in check. Somalia is gonna be a secular state, I just hope they hold to their secular ideals of 'freedom' and allow people who wanna be Ahlu Deen to be Ahlu Deen and not persecute them. If You can mantain Islam in the West, it won't be too hard in Somalia
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