MSB regimes legacy and history(not clan topic)

[Aliyah99]

[quote="BABYGIRL123"]Walahi its not about Qabiil if its about Qabiil why dont i praise in Dafle for being part of that and Abdulahi yusuf or ali galeydh of the tfg that era was one of nationalism and somalinimo which i wish it went well and siyaad was at the top of it.


He destroyed that era of nationalism and somalinimo

[fagash_killer]

[quote="BABYGIRL123"]He showed and prooven to both ethiopia and the world that somalis surely can defeat ethiopia easily mashaalaah may he rest in peace in janatul fardowsa and may god forgive him power corrupts peoples hurts pray to allah that you may never lead just as the saxaaba wished they never become khaliifs.[/quote]

well one can say where is siyaad barre and his country now? atleast even mengistu is chillin in zimbabwe.the truth is that their is nothing to be proud of defeating your neighbour country imigaa haduu for example gumeysii westkaa kaa dagalamii lahaa markaas oo kaallee laa ordhaan karaa geesii buu ahaa. lakiin dadkii dhimanyoo uun walaaloo uun beey ahayaan so i dont call that geesinimo man.

[Hobeey]

Luis

Tell Me A Leader Who Hasn't Made Any Mistakes In This World?

[BABYGIRL123]

I swear the local akhwaan masjid i go to who support the iccu and i suspect are members say that the akhwaans should not have went agianst a existing government it was against islam they should have made the govenment understand their views.


luis it unfortunate many somalis lost their lifes to wars waged by ethiopia and communist.
no it was not him but hard headed somalis destroyed it.

[Hobeey]

I swear the local akhwaan masjid i go to who support the iccu and i suspect are members say that the akhwaans should not have went agianst a existing government it was against islam they should have made the govenment understand their views.


luis it unfortunate many somalis lost their lifes to wars waged by ethiopia and communist.
no it was not him but hard headed somalis destroyed it.

[luis1]

Hoobey:He didnt make one mistake,he made thousands of mistakes,he tortured and killed a lot of people,he helped to split the country.


http://www.netnomad.com/barreobits.html

More than 10,000 people were reported killed in the months that followed, with allegations that the Somali military had bombed towns and strafed fleeing residents.

I think this article shows he is a criminal.

[fagash_killer]

[quote="luis1"]Hoobey:He didnt make one mistake,he made thousands of mistakes,he tortured and killed a lot of people,he helped to split the country.


http://www.netnomad.com/barreobits.html

More than 10,000 people were reported killed in the months that followed, with allegations that the Somali military had bombed towns and strafed fleeing residents.

I think this article shows he is a criminal.[/quote]

luis that sounds like a portugese name correct me if im wrong?

[Aliyah99]

Luis,

You cannot get through to emotional people like babygirl and hobeey with facts because they worship this personality for personal qabiil reasons. Post siad barre their qabiil was aptly described by another forumer as Kashmiris ( ) they cannot look at this objectively because they are among those who are the worst affected by the new political situation in somalila and somaliland.

[Hobeey]

Luis

That Was Not His Fault, Infact The Last Governement Was Plagued With Clan-Based Rebel Groups. The SNM To Be Particular, Who Were Morally And Finacially Supported By Ethiopia Who Wanted To Overthrow The Government. All The Clan Based Militias started a campaign Of Immense Proportions Of Killings, Rape And Torture. Just To Overthrow The Governement, So Tell Me How Could The Government Control Those Animals?.

[Advo]

Blame SNM/SSDF/USC etc for the failure of SOMALIA............


Not Mujaahid Siyaad Barre, May God Rest His Soul!

[ModerateMuslim]

Hoobey:He didnt make one mistake,he made thousands of mistakes,he tortured and killed a lot of people,he helped to split the country.


http://www.netnomad.com/barreobits.html

More than 10,000 people were reported killed in the months that followed, with allegations that the Somali military had bombed towns and strafed fleeing residents.

I think this article shows he is a criminal.

you know as somalis and muslims we should not dwelt in legacy and such...let's leave that to others.

MSB, what good, what evil he's done is really irrelevant to the predicaments and situations that are facing us, today.

[Sheikh-InkaarQabe]

Luis

That Was Not His Fault, Infact The Last Governement Was Plagued With Clan-Based Rebel Groups. The SNM To Be Particular, Who Were Morally And Finacially Supported By Ethiopia Who Wanted To Overthrow The Government. All The Clan Based Militias started a campaign Of Immense Proportions Of Killings, Rape And Torture. Just To Overthrow The Governement, So Tell Me How Could The Government Control Those Animals?.

So the government was justified in killing millions of innocent people because of what rebels did? Is the purpose of a government suppose to be punishing civilians for the crimes of rebels? How does that make the government any diffferent from the rebels? Try'n use some logic here.

[luis1]

I just say,there many articles which prove that Barre was a killer and a criminal.

[luis1]

The problems and the destruction in Somalia began after Ogaden defeat in 1977.

After that the somali state was a nightmare.

[Hobeey]

Luis

That Was Not His Fault, Infact The Last Governement Was Plagued With Clan-Based Rebel Groups. The SNM To Be Particular, Who Were Morally And Finacially Supported By Ethiopia Who Wanted To Overthrow The Government. All The Clan Based Militias started a campaign Of Immense Proportions Of Killings, Rape And Torture. Just To Overthrow The Governement, So Tell Me How Could The Government Control Those Animals?.

So the government was justified in killing millions of innocent people because of what rebels did? Is the purpose of a government suppose to be punishing civilians for the crimes of rebels? How does that make the government any diffferent from the rebels? Try'n use some logic here.

Was There Any Option? I Mean These rebels Who Were Aided By Ethiopia And The Enemy Of Somalia, Fought Government Forces, Killing Civillians. There Were Many Raids Throughout The Whole Country, Planning Coups And Attacks. Simply Say, Somali Forces was Fighting Against All These Rebels In Defence. What Else Could They Have They Done? Every Government Has The Right To Defend Its Self From Any Kind Of Threat.