Is Barre Hiraale Traitor?

[Voltage]

Jamaal, as usual you only come when you hear any news about Kismaayo and Maxaakiim together. Caawa maxaa ku keenay aan ka ahayn the jilib thing?

Teeda kale get any man from your clan and he will be seen as 100% worse than Barre Hiiraale will ever be wallow ha ahaato dadnimo, islaanimo, wadaninimo, etc. isku xishood Barre Hiiraale wax walba ayaa la dihi karaa except traitor....adigu laftigaadu baa og wadanimo in loogu tagin and a dhabayaco is the last person to contest this well deserved legacy

[Advo]

waxaa ladhahey the biggest MJ wadaad and Barre hiraale baa siman, basically if he goes to puntland, Umada ticket beey goosanaayaan for maxaadiro.

[Voltage]

waxaa ladhahey the biggest MJ wadaad and Barre hiraale baa siman, basically if he goes to puntland, Umada ticket beey goosanaayaan for maxaadiro.

ka daa waraa

[Advo]

[Ashlee]

All I know is that he's legally blind..I don't know much about him beyond that.

[sadeboi]

Hiiraale is the one who helped out maxakiimta in Muqdisho when they were being targeted, and when he did not good relations with members of his clan, and when a lot of his clan were religious people and did not want to fight what they believe to be religious people, and during ramadan, the maxakiim ATTACKED HIM. So who is a traitor?

As for Jamaal and co. this not 2006, Marexaan might be politically divided and what not today, but no Marexaan will support maxakiim today in Kismayo nor will they not fight, today beesha SADE as a whole will fight the maxakiim.

[Shilling]

1975

Siyaad Bare waxaa uu soo saaray sharci simaya dumarka iyo raga. Isla sanadkaa waxaa la dilay 10 wadaado ah oo ka horyimid sharcigaas.

P.S. Voltage, AY might have invited the Ethiopians to give his government a hand, but we all know who came against a whole verse in the Qur'an. You have to admit sxb, you folks are bit extreme, as Jamal mentioned even Bare Hiraale was willing to take the "Yahuud" (an enemy Allah warned as of) for an ally in 2006 (he made this clear over the BBC airwaves by the way). I'm sure if Hiraale was in AY shoes, probably by now we would have had "Yahuud" running around Somalia instead of the Ethiopians. You do know AY has more of chance of coming out sane if ask why he invited the Ethiopian, whereas Hiraale would have been stuck. Ethiopia once helped the Muslims while nabi Mohamed (pbuh) was still alive. What did the "yahuud" do for Muslims again? Hiraale sure was insane lol

[The-Screw]

why can't we all just hold hands and sing kumbaya

[sadeboi]

1975

Siyaad Bare waxaa uu soo saaray sharci simaya dumarka iyo raga. Isla sanadkaa waxaa la dilay 10 wadaado ah oo ka horyimid sharcigaas.

P.S. Voltage, AY might have invited the Ethiopians to give his government a hand, but we all know who came against a whole verse in the Qur'an.

Your an incompetent buffoon and I would not have replied to you, but don't make false accusations like this, and don't speak about matters of which you do not know about [the religion].

[Alchemist]

Hero for Merahan..

Traitor and part of Hizbul-Shaytain for the rest of the muslims..

[sadeboi]

Moryaan, nin ceydiid mahdi uu yahay maxaan kala hadalna?

Barre waxbane ha iskula mashquulinin ee orad beledweyn ka fakir. A/yusef made this guy governor of Gedo and Marexaan had elections and replaced him with this guy they liked, while in beledweyn A/yusef appoint ones, takes the position away from, and when dhabo-laga-geeyey refuses to leave office xabasho soldiers forcefully drags him out. Before you worry about Barre iyo afaaraheyna orad ka fakir dhulkiina, the only other place besides Muqdisho that xabasho occupy [literally] is beledweyn and hiiraan.

[MJ-Pride]

Hero for Merahan..

Traitor and part of Hizbul-Shaytain for the rest of the muslims..

You dropped the bomb There are a lot of Marehans that don't like the guy though, and can you honestly explain the ICU treatment of him? to retain indhacade who was Hiiraale's right hand man and fire kick hiiraale out was nothing short of betrayal

Having said that, he is insignificant in Somali politics right now and i heard he's locked in a corn bakhaar by other Marehans

[Shilling]

1975

Siyaad Bare waxaa uu soo saaray sharci simaya dumarka iyo raga. Isla sanadkaa waxaa la dilay 10 wadaado ah oo ka horyimid sharcigaas.

P.S. Voltage, AY might have invited the Ethiopians to give his government a hand, but we all know who came against a whole verse in the Qur'an.

Your an incompetent buffoon and I would not have replied to you, but don't make false accusations like this, and don't speak about matters of which you do not know about [the religion].

Here is your source:

http://www.radiogedo.com/1960.htm

Just scroll down to 1975, the date your dead hero defied Allah (swt).

Btw...Sadeboi, I'm speaking facts and I'm only pointing out two men not the whole clan, which is the deference between me and some.

[sadeboi]

Having said that, he is insignificant in Somali politics right now and i heard he's locked in a corn bakhaar by other Marehans

Dadku waxeyna ogeyn in ey ka hadlaan uma fiicno, Bare qof xirri karro ama taban karrow allah ka sakow ma jirro. Insignificant neh, Gedo illa Kismayo bu xoogiisa yahay.

Shilling, your a incompetent and I said that for a reason . Maj.Gen Siyaad Bare said women and men are eqaul in allah eyes and have a right to live a happy and healthy life and not be mistreated by the old backward somali customs nothing about the quran. You don't even know what he said yet you spew flase accusation. What ayat did he change? What he said was dhaxal joojis iyo xeer will no longer be a custom of ours. What is wrong with that? You don't even know the Somali culture back in those days nor are you educated about the religion to understand what the late president spoke about. But hey, Mohamed Muktar from London and his article stating the actions of the late president but not the reasoning behind them must be all the info you need.

[Shilling]

Sadeboi,

I reckon your having hard time comprehending what 'Allgedo' is trying to attest to in Somali, so let me rephrase that for you in English: in early 1975, Siad Barre announced a decision by the Supreme Revolutionary Council (SRC) and the Council of Ministers to give equal rights to women in several respects, including equal inheritance rights, a move that led to protests by Islamic leaders; 10 clerics were made an example of for defying this new law Barre had signed in to law by the way.

Now that this is clear, what does the Qur'an say about equal inheritance? This is according to chapter al-Nisa:

"Allaah commands you as regards your children's (inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females" [4:11]

True most of the rulings of Islam apply to men and women equally, but as far as this versa goes it's clear that Siad Barre defied Allah's revelation when he stubbornly insists on claiming that men and women are the equal to that respect. As they say sxb, "when your in a hole stop digging" cause I doubt you can save Siad Barre anymore faces by calling me incompetent and what not.

The fact is Somalia practiced "scientific-socialism" of Karl Marx during the years of Siad Bare's dictatorship. The concept of scientific-socialism brought about restrictions upon personal, economical and political freedoms. All citizens were to be treated equally in regard to Karl Max's ideology, but equality in that sense was incompatible with our beliefs and it was by brute force he came to pass of such laws. Hence the 10 clerics who were killed for pointing out that there were distinctions made between the sexes in Islam after he stubbornly insists on claiming that men and women are the same.