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The Rise of the Islamist Warlords

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The Rise of the Islamist Warlords

Postby Twisted_Logic » Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:00 pm

Last week an ideological difference between members of the Islamic Courts allied to Sh.Sharif and Sh. Dahir Aweys turned into a deadly fire-fight causing instability and tension in Jowhar, the capital of the Middle Shebelle Region in Somalia. The deadly feud between members of the Islamic Courts many who hold conflicting political/ideological differences has led many to question if the departure of the traditional clan-based warlords in Somalia has made way to the rise of another unlikely replacement: the rise of the Wadaado-Warlords. Somalia already has dozens, if not more, self-appointed warriors of Islam vying for dominance and heaven alone knows what the consequences of their differences would lead to Somalia.

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Re: The Rise of the Islamist Warlords

Postby Somalian_Boqor » Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:35 pm

They are on the raise and inshallah they shall all be crushed!!!

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Re: The Rise of the Islamist Warlords

Postby Son_of_Somalia » Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:36 pm

Twisted_Logic i hope Ethiopia rewards you well for your treachery :down:
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Re: The Rise of the Islamist Warlords

Postby The_Emperior5 » Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:37 pm

Ethiopia is not the boogy man somalias problem started way before Mele zanawi was born

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Re: The Rise of the Islamist Warlords

Postby Haddad » Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:39 pm

The_Emperior5 wrote:Ethiopia is not the boogy man somalias problem started way before Mele zanawi was born
You mean the colonials are responsible for Somalia's problems?

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Re: The Rise of the Islamist Warlords

Postby Son_of_Somalia » Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:47 pm

Why would any Somali attack the men that are fighting for he's or her country and dignity against Ethiopian occupation.

If they can't say nothing positive for the resistance than would it not be better to say nothing?

Please do not help meles and any other dirty Tigray that says they came into somalia to help.

Somalia is today under Tigray occupation, we have no central leadership and we are in a very dangerous moment in our history.

We need to support "any" groups that are challenging the Tigrays over their occupation of somalia, this is essential in gaining somali liberty.

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Re: The Rise of the Islamist Warlords

Postby Addoow » Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:52 pm

sheekh dahir caddow calasow is my former diin teacher i know him personally as i graduated from his school.he hails from the Mudulood subclan of agoonyar(buraale).
also sheekh muqtar was my former naighbor we know each other very well.!!
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you are obviously barking up the wrong tree blaming these Two innocent wadaado,the whole blame falls on Mr.indhacade the trouble maker.!!

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Re: The Rise of the Islamist Warlords

Postby ModerateMuslim » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:05 pm

Son_of_Somalia wrote:Why would any Somali attack the men that are fighting for he's or her country and dignity against Ethiopian occupation.

If they can't say nothing positive for the resistance than would it not be better to say nothing?


Please do not help meles and any other dirty Tigray that says they came into somalia to help.

Somalia is today under Tigray occupation, we have no central leadership and we are in a very dangerous moment in our history.

We need to support "any" groups that are challenging the Tigrays over their occupation of somalia, this is essential in gaining somali liberty.


:up: :up: :up:

wallahi.....spot on! i've asked the same :?: many times.

but, you see, they - somali traitors - will rather be slaves to aids-ridden, stinking ethiopians rather than a dignified people. :oops:
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Re: The Rise of the Islamist Warlords

Postby Twisted_Logic » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:06 pm

Son_of_Somalia wrote:Why would any Somali attack the men that are fighting for he's or her country and dignity against Ethiopian occupation.

If they can't say nothing positive for the resistance than would it not be better to say nothing?

Please do not help meles and any other dirty Tigray that says they came into somalia to help.

Somalia is today under Tigray occupation, we have no central leadership and we are in a very dangerous moment in our history.

We need to support "any" groups that are challenging the Tigrays over their occupation of somalia, this is essential in gaining somali liberty.


Some-times, the end doesn't have to justify the means. It is splendid that the Al-Shabab is waging a war against the Ethiopian mercenaries and their paid-agents, but at what cost? The main problem with narrow-minded lunatics like yourself is that you are quite incapable of appreciating the great danger the Al-Shabab poses to the Somali Republic in the long run. Simply taking a gun and firing at the Ethiopian mercenaries in Somalia, is no license to cause harm and jeopardize the long-term survival of the Somali State. For every Ethiopian these Heaven-bound guys kill, dozens of Somalis lose their lives and while freedom don't come free, is the death of one Ethiopian for the death of dozens of Somali women and children a wise investment?

Pointing to the flawed policies and misguided believes of these brain-washed narrow-minded zealots doesn't mean that one is automatically writing a blank-cheque to the Ethiopian despot. Actually, the truth couldn't be further. I want a more disciplined and organized militias fighting against the Ethiopian mercenaries and their Somali agents with a clear defined goals and concrete Post-War plans that don't turn Somalia into fiefdom for competing Wadaado-Warlords. Somalia already has a painful experience with the consequences of waging a war to dispose a despot simply to be replaced by chaos and anarchy. We don't want to repeat the same ol' mistakes over and over again. It becomes a major turn-off.

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Re: The Rise of the Islamist Warlords

Postby Son_of_Somalia » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:28 pm

Twisted_Logic freedom and dignity is not cheap unfortunately we must sacrifice to achieve our goals.

We need to understand the true nature of the Tigrays, please read what they do to the Oromo people, read for yourself here, http://www.oromoliberationfront.org/New ... ictims.htm.

We never wanted this war and we never asked for this war but by God we shall win this, it is obligatory that every Somali takes part.

Twisted_Logic what you want does not exist, the best we have at the moment is the Nationalistic courts.

Therefore Twisted_Logic please stop these stupid excuses and join us to liberate somalia and bring back Somali dignity.

Are you with your people or are you with the Abbyssians?

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Re: The Rise of the Islamist Warlords

Postby Twisted_Logic » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:29 pm

Son_of_Somalia wrote:Twisted_Logic freedom and dignity is not cheap unfortunately we must sacrifice to achieve our goals.

We need to understand the true nature of the Tigrays, please read what they do to the Oromo people, read for yourself here, http://www.oromoliberationfront.org/New ... ictims.htm.

[b]We never wanted this war and we never asked for this war but by God we shall win this, it is obligatory that every Somali takes part.[/b]

Twisted_Logic what you want does not exist, the best we have at the moment is the Nationalistic courts.

Therefore Twisted_Logic please stop these stupid excuses and join us to liberate somalia and bring back Somali dignity.

Are you with your people or are you with the Abbyssians?


You sound as if the NE0-Cons have given you a crush-course on patriotism :lol: :lol:

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Re: The Rise of the Islamist Warlords

Postby +chilli » Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:27 pm

To be honest, TL, at this moment in time we really have little choice, the situation doesn't give us the luxuary to think over the ideology and interest of these 'waadado'.

We shoudln't pay attention if they are simplistic, dogmatic preachers, who base Islam on the al-Azhar pamphlets, let them ride the Islamist jargon. They are doing Somalia a service. Let them be. A future is better then no future.

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Re: The Rise of the Islamist Warlords

Postby Twisted_Logic » Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:14 am

Sad to say that everything we have feared has materialized


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