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TFG Over Al-shabaab?

Postby Kolombo » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:39 pm

Let's lose our common sense for a sec & choose the TFG over Al-shabaab, because the "TFG is all we got right now." But then, how do we blind ourselves to not only the puppetry of the TFG, their obvious incompetence, but more importantly their un-government-like conduct since setting up camp in Xamar. How can anyone who calls himself a Muslim support the following?

-the murders of un-armed civilians (as noted by human rights groups) on numerous occassions,

-the inconceivable kiss-ass attitude of TFG "officials" to not only ignore horrific Ethiopian troop actions, but to actually applaud it e.g. the massacre of religious elders at Waxarcade Masjid,

-the up-rooting of over 800,000 civilians in what the U.N. has called "The world's worst humanitarian crisis..." these ousted refugees live in squalor in make-shift camps including women & children who do not have the basic necessities needed for survival.

-the systemic targeting of the religious community; the arrests of clerics, the closure of over 30 Masjids in Xamar including Masjid Ali Suufi & Isbaheysiga.

-the encouraging of warlord militias to run amock by setting up over 55 Isbaarooyin in the city and in this process robbing the residents of their meager posessions as was shown by the British documentary,

-the lootings of Bakara market, Coca Cola plant, SIMAD, Uni of Mog, etc.

-the facilitation of personal/clan vengeances,

-the bartering of prisoners by certain TFG members (Darawiish & his henchemen) again as shown by the British documentary,

-the looting of international donor money by TFG "ministers."

-the failure to provide any type of security for the residents of Xamar, whatever relative peace that existed during the ICU was not only erased, but it was replaced by the same warlords & their militias that the courts had ousted.

-the sanctioning of instituitional non-chalance & the policy of indiscriminately shelling civilian populated areas e.g. hospitals Madina & SOS and Bakara market.
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Re: TFG Over Al-shabaab?

Postby SummerRain » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:45 pm

I'm still waiting waiting for your to convert me.... :|

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Re: TFG Over Al-shabaab?

Postby Kolombo » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:06 pm

Convert you over to Al-shabaab side?

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Re: TFG Over Al-shabaab?

Postby lover8 » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:16 pm

:lol: :lol: nice try. alshabab are terrorists

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Re: TFG Over Al-shabaab?

Postby Kolombo » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:21 pm

lover8,

Get your Woyane-sheegato ass out of my thread. :arrow:

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Re: TFG Over Al-shabaab?

Postby lover8 » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:36 pm

Kolombo wrote:Let's lose our common sense for a sec & choose the TFG over Al-shabaab, because the "TFG is all we got right now." But then, how do we blind ourselves to not only the puppetry of the TFG, their obvious incompetence, but more importantly their un-government-like conduct since setting up camp in Xamar. How can anyone who calls himself a Muslim support the following?

-the murders of un-armed civilians (as noted by human rights groups) on numerous occassions,
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the ICU alshabab have been using civilians as human shield while shooting at other civilians alongside TFG troops. so who is the real murderer??

FOR EXAMPLE, if an african-american militia started causing havic in washington D.C. streets by shooting at civialians and shooting at POLICE, do you really think the american government will incriminate the police for defending itself?? :lol:

you need common sense yourself. :lol:

the murders are the militia's using innocent people as human shield, the murderers are alshabab

Kolombo wrote:
-the inconceivable kiss-ass attitude of TFG "officials" to not only ignore horrific Ethiopian troop actions, but to actually applaud it e.g. the massacre of religious elders at Waxarcade Masjid,


again, look up for the same reason.

the group causing horrific action are only alshabab....the TFG, the ethiopians and the AU are only defending themselves


Kolombo wrote:
-the up-rooting of over 800,000 civilians in what the U.N. has called "The world's worst humanitarian crisis..." these ousted refugees live in squalor in make-shift camps including women & children who do not have the basic necessities needed for survival.

-the systemic targeting of the religious community; the arrests of clerics, the closure of over 30 Masjids in Xamar including Masjid Ali Suufi & Isbaheysiga.

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again those who created humanitarian crisis are the alshabab. Look at Baidoa run by TFG.
look at puntland run by TFG ally

both of them did not have the humanitatian crisis like mogadishu because they are governed by responsible people and there is no big alshabab presense.
so whose fault is the crisis?
if it is in the nature of TFG to create crisis, why is there no crisis in baidoa??

the so-called targetting of religious place is propaganda by alshabab. this is the technique of alqeda....even in Iraq alqueda bombed mosques and other religious places to stir anti-america sentiment.

you should ask yourself, if TFG likes to target islamic religious community why is Baidoa and puntland religious community peaceful?? if ethopia likes targeting islamic religious community, why do people say ethopian muslims are getting more powerful culturally, economically etc?? even richest powerful ethiopians are muslims, even the #1 richest ethiopia is muslim.
there are also islamic courts in baidoa, ethiopia and puntland etc.


Kolombo wrote:
-the encouraging of warlord militias to run amock by setting up over 55 Isbaarooyin in the city and in this process robbing the residents of their meager posessions as was shown by the British documentary,

-the lootings of Bakara market, Coca Cola plant, SIMAD, Uni of Mog, etc.

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all western media is influenced by money flow and documentaries need to exaggerate, lie to attract audience. if british documentary talked about how TFG and ethiopia alliance will create moderate islamic governmence, with good human rights and peaceful co-existence in horn of africa, who will watch the documentary?? :lol: no one.

anyway, i do realize that there have been some lootings. but there are such problems in many countries around the world, let alone in mogadishu where government officials are targetted by terrorist alshabab everyday, so it is hard to do any work.


in general, the alshabab are the criminals and everyone knows it. if a suicidal militia took over sections of washington dc to overthrow the government using bloodshed and human shields, you have to be STUPID to think the american government will be incriminalized for defending itself :lol:

alshabab :down:
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Re: TFG Over Al-shabaab?

Postby Kolombo » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:39 pm

lover8,

All of what you've written is insignificant, you're not Somali.

Why are you ashamed of what you are?

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Re: TFG Over Al-shabaab?

Postby Abdi_Som » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:43 pm

lover8 wrote:
in general, the alshabab are the criminals and everyone knows it. if a suicidal militia took over sections of washington dc to overthrow the government using bloodshed and human shields, you have to be STUPID to think the american government will be incriminalized for defending itself :lol:

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that is very good point.

Death to Al-shabaab!!!! :evil:

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Re: TFG Over Al-shabaab?

Postby Kolombo » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:48 pm

lover8,

Don't run away and answer my question:

Everyone on this site knows you're a filthy Ethiopian parading himself as nin Majeerteen ah, don't you have the balls to claim your own? Are you that ashamed of your backward, raw meat eating, injir infested people?

Abdisom=lover8. :lol:

Now, log back on with your other nicks, nijaas yahow.

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Re: TFG Over Al-shabaab?

Postby Xamud. » Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:29 pm

Kolombo
Why are you insulting him? he begs too differ! and hes allowed too do so. Anyway! am against Alshaaba and the TFG! I couldent careless about them fighting Amxaaro! they kill more somalis then the TFG do.
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Re: TFG Over Al-shabaab?

Postby The_Emperior5 » Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:34 pm

ilahay kuwa argagixsada hanaga qabto ummada islaamka meel walba ku dilaya

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Re: TFG Over Al-shabaab?

Postby Kolombo » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:04 pm

Nabeela,

Well said. It'd be foolish for anyone to not admit the faults of Al-shabaab.

However compared to the mess we're in right now, its pathetic to pin all faults on Al-shabaab alone.

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Re: TFG Over Al-shabaab?

Postby Kolombo » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:17 pm

Nabeela wrote:Al shabab got their priorities all messed up..No?


True. Ignorance can produce incredible things. :lol:

Al-shabaab exists for a reason i.e. Ethiopian occupation. Why don't people ever want to look at that?

Also, when people are marginalized, they turn to extreme forms of resistance. There are no coincidences in this world, if you want to find out why people act the way they do, all you need to do is look at their environment.

Personally, I can't stand TFG supporters who think they have the audacity to say anything about Al-shabaab or anyone else, when they support blatant injustice and treachery.

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Re: TFG Over Al-shabaab?

Postby lover8 » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:26 pm

Kolombo wrote:Nabeela,

Well said. It'd be foolish for anyone to not admit the faults of Al-shabaab.

However compared to the mess we're in right now, its pathetic to pin all faults on Al-shabaab alone.

your first sentence was good.
but your second sentence :down:

All faults are on al shabaab alone!!

#1

if alshabaab didn't hamper TFG, mogadishu would have been peaceful just like the baidoa and puntland regions governed by TFG and TFG allies. can't you understand this simple fact??

#2

alshabaab is so stupid that it can't understand that somalis need peace and peace will come only when somali people can co-exist with their neighbors djibouti, ethiopia and kenya. which is the reason why TFG is allied with these two countries while stupid ICU is allied with the xabashi dominated orthodox-led eritrean government


#3.

if alshabaab wasn't here, our people will not look stupid trying to be protectors of Islam from Ethiopia, a country that has 4 times more Muslims than somalia.

#4.

if alshabaab was not using innocent somalis as human shield, if alshabaab was not being used as a condom by extremist arabs, if alshabaab was not attacking TFG officials to stop them from doing any work, if alshabaab was not suicide bombing and killing UN workers, and somali people everywhere (even in bossosa and hargesha), then we would not have the current crisis


PERIOD.


AL fault= on alshabaab

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Re: TFG Over Al-shabaab?

Postby SahanGalbeed » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:38 pm

Gardheerta { yacni waa ninka siyaasidiisa magaca Ilaahey ku qarsada}, gardheerta kaartooyinkoodi baa tan oo kale ah .
Maalinta ay isku uraan bay ku odhanayaan " waar hortaa kaa halkaa fadhiya iyo aniga , midkeena qadhmuun badan inoo kala sheega "

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