Xoogsade's Right

[Shirib]

This is exactly right on between Shariif's government and that of Abdullahi Yusuf's

Administration wise they're both the same. Both rely on foreigners to protect them from the people they're supposed to represent. They're both paper presidents selected in foreign capitals with the blessing of the U.S. The can keep going on and on but you get the point.

Tell me why it was 'patriotic' to oppose AY but the opposite is true for Shariif?

[xoogSADE14]

Shirib

Waxba ha'isku daalin dadkaan sxb mar horeey waasheene.

[Shirib]

Abti,

Wa runtaa

[GENERAL_SNM]

Shirib, your more extremist then the hutu's, you and your camp are completely barmy and only interested in violence. This man Xoogsade has a hidden agenda for making that statement its the old Hawiye V's Darod struggle. If Shariff grew wings and a hallow was above his head, they would still find evidence to prove his the devil....

[xoogSADE14]

SNM

Then why did I oppose AY? or even the candidacy of Gen. Maslax whos the same sub sub sub sub sub sub sub clan as I am?

Not everything is vied through qabiil lenses sxb. You should try it sometimes.

[Sakhraan]

yaa usku haya........Col Xoogsade is always right.


Feeling Down Sakhraan.

[xoogSADE14]

lool@ Sakhraan

war ninyahow inteed ku dambeeysay?

[GENERAL_SNM]

SNM

Then why did I oppose AY? or even the candidacy of Gen. Maslax whos the same sub sub sub sub sub sub sub clan as I am?

Not everything is vied through qabiil lenses sxb. You should try it sometimes.

Man you must miss the good old days. How many land cruisers you had?

PS, you opposed AY because he opposed your presence in Kismayo and Maslax because he would be taking orders from Shariff. The first for survival and the last for pride...

[Sakhraan]

Col.Xoogsade,

dee kolba guri Garoob ayaan jilibka aastaa.


xaalkaaga ka waran?...........xagayga waa iska Bariga Dhexe.

[eyes-only]

Tell me why it was 'patriotic' to oppose AY but the opposite is true for Shariif?

[/quote]


@ shirib quoting Xoogsade.


Anyway, to answer your question....Sh. Shariif and C/Yusuf are not the same and although their administrations may have the same problems and barriers to overcome, their leadership styles are totally different. The reason why it became unpatriotic to support C/Yusuf is because he brought Ethiopian troops into Somalia....it's because he invited the US to bombard people and their livelihoods....it's because he is a warlord and a traitor of the worst kind. Although most of us had serious reservations about him as a person, you didn't hear anyone outrightly opposing him before he invited the Ethiopian troops and his actions that followed.

Any government for Somalia is going to face serious problems and it is not for us to point out problems like 'over reliance on foreign support' but to look at ways of improving on the government and ensuring the leadership is good enough to overcome the problems they face.

I believe in Sh. Shariif and I believe he is the right person to lead Somalia out of the madness. Anyone who thinks there are better people out there to bring Somalia out of this or that everything will magically sort its self out is either dreaming or wants Somalia to remain in anarchy for the next 20years and beyond.

Support Sh. Shariif and prime minister Cumar C/Rashiid

[Cawar]

you didn't hear anyone outrightly opposing him before he invited the Ethiopian troops and his actions that followed

Now this is whats wrong with your paragraph.. 80% of ppl in Xamar, including the same warlords who elected him opposed him before he even set a foot in somalia..
Mainly because he could not make every one of them a minister and when he did, some of them were not happy with their posts..
and if you want to deny the facts..thats well.. convenient for you now..but that does not make it true.

Now, Sharif had 90% of the suuport AY was missing from the start, and what does he do?? waste all the political leverage he had and the good will.
Thats poor leadership to say the least.

[xoogSADE14]

Eyes

Of course compared to your uncles Indhocade, Shariif is the nicest person alive.

I believe in Sh. Shariif and I believe he is the right person to lead Somalia out of the madness. Anyone who thinks there are better people out there to bring Somalia out of this or that everything will magically sort its self out is either dreaming or wants Somalia to remain in anarchy for the next 20years and beyond.

I rest my case.

[eyes-only]

Cawar, the people in Xamar welcomed him....he refused to set foot in Xamar. The man received more support than C.Qaasim received and he didn't take advantage of it because he was still hang up on the past and revenge. People visited him and talked to him to give him advice and all he used to do was talk badly to them and bring up the past. He didn't want peace. In terms of the Xamar warlords....they're the ones who voted for him. I have it on good authority they all pressured their stooges to vote for ina Yeey and Qanyare in particular gave him all his votes in the end when it was obvious to him that he wasn't going to win. So, who the hell are the 80% you're talking about? Let's be real here guys. A.Yusuf was more popular to the people of Xamar than all the other warlords they had at the time. But he decided to go to Jowhar to get humiliated by M.Dheere. He underestimated his support and saw the people as his enemy while seeing his real enemies (the warlords) as his pals. That is the truth.

Eyes

Of course compared to your uncles Indhocade, Shariif is the nicest person alive.

I believe in Sh. Shariif and I believe he is the right person to lead Somalia out of the madness. Anyone who thinks there are better people out there to bring Somalia out of this or that everything will magically sort its self out is either dreaming or wants Somalia to remain in anarchy for the next 20years and beyond.

I rest my case.

Leave my uncle Indhacadde out of this. He's not in the government nor does he support it...War ileyn you're hooked on him! Marwalba waad magac heysaa, walaal waan kaa shakiyay runtii.

Welcome back btw.

[Shirib]

Cawar, the people in Xamar welcomed him....he refused to set foot in Xamar. The man received more support than C.Qaasim received and he didn't take advantage of it because he was still hang up on the past and revenge. People visited him and talked to him to give him advice and all he used to do was talk badly to them and bring up the past. He didn't want peace. In terms of the Xamar warlords....they're the ones who voted for him. I have it on good authority they all pressured their stooges to vote for ina Yeey and Qanyare in particular gave him all his votes in the end when it was obvious to him that he wasn't going to win. So, who the hell are the 80% you're talking about? Let's be real here guys. A.Yusuf was more popular to the people of Xamar than all the other warlords they had at the time. But he decided to go to Jowhar to get humiliated by M.Dheere. He underestimated his support and saw the people as his enemy while seeing his real enemies (the warlords) as his pals. That is the truth.

I remember Muse Suudi saying Abdullahi Yusuf kabo ka waaweeyn oo soo gashti in reference to him comin to Xamar...what are u talkin about no warlord wanted him. They didn't want a dowlad. They wanted to sit on their land and collect their money and get rich

[Shirib]

How can Shariif call the AU forces peacekeepers, and are there to protect his dowlad different than what the Ethiopians were doin in Baydhabo when Shariifoow and the ICU started screaming Jihad before they ran to a gaal country