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Will Al-Shabaab reach Puntland? A joke, yes - your opinions?

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Will Al-Shabaab reach Puntland?

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Will Al-Shabaab reach Puntland? A joke, yes - your opinions?

Postby paidmonk » Sun May 10, 2009 9:55 pm

What's this nonsense of Al-Shabaab/assorted radicals will reach Puntland?

A single court belonging to a sub-clan of Cumar Maxamud in 2006 does not count compared to real established rule in places like Xamar, Baidoa, or Kismayo.

Its been said over and over, "wait till they reach Puntland" - but as much as I can calculate a military victory for Al-Shabaab, I simply find it impossible that they will reach Puntland.

This topic will not disappear in 4 months like some peoples' former opinions on such matters. I will Danyeer this topic for the next year to prove that this opinion is solid and not subject to the unstable and bizarre nature of southern politics. I simply think that Puntland political structure, culture and nature is well-established and not subject to warlord's mood swings and other surprise elements that bring about instability.

The simple point being, as many said, Puntland does a better job of security and human development than Al-Shabaab. Sure, they might not be proud or patriotic or whatever second-priority values that you southerners boast about, but the people are content for the most part and would not risk a war for a minor regime change.

Vote on this issue and we'll come back in a year to see if things have changed.

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Re: Will Al-Shabaab reach Puntland? A joke, yes - your opinions?

Postby Voltage » Sun May 10, 2009 10:20 pm

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Re: Will Al-Shabaab reach Puntland? A joke, yes - your opinions?

Postby Voltage » Sun May 10, 2009 10:23 pm

The way I see the only thing that kept Puntland and Somaliland's Al Shabaabs in secrecy is because they would have no supporters anywhere near them if they did anything.

A south held by Al Shabaab equals a line at which the battle will be drawn and everyone can move accordingly.

It is the same thing with Harry Potter. When the deatheaters thought their man died, they changed color until he resurfaced again and they all went to their rightful camp as soon as they felt the mark burn.

Do the people of Puntland have it in them? The pictures are proof.

Teeda kale let's get real, Puntland will give as much resistance as Hoosingoow village. :up:

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Re: Will Al-Shabaab reach Puntland? A joke, yes - your opinions?

Postby Real_1 » Sun May 10, 2009 10:33 pm

just pray for ahlu sunnah wa jamea cause thats the last hope you got :mrgreen:

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Re: Will Al-Shabaab reach Puntland? A joke, yes - your opinions?

Postby Real_1 » Sun May 10, 2009 10:38 pm

[quote="Voltage"]The way I see the only thing that kept Puntland and Somaliland's Al Shabaabs in secrecy is because they would have no supporters anywhere near them if they did anything.

A south held by Al Shabaab equals a line at which the battle will be drawn and everyone can move accordingly.

It is the same thing with Harry Potter. When the deatheaters thought their man died, they changed color until he resurfaced again and they all went to their rightful camp as soon as they felt the mark burn.

Do the people of Puntland have it in them? The pictures are proof.

Teeda kale let's get real, Puntland will give as much resistance as Hoosingoow village. :up:[/quote]




WTF u watch Harry Potter bro oo nin weyn baan ku moode ileen tobalini baad daawataa :lol:

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Re: Will Al-Shabaab reach Puntland? A joke, yes - your opinions?

Postby Voltage » Sun May 10, 2009 10:41 pm

I read the first harry potter book in 6th grade man. Reer Baadiyaha maqlay 2005 maahi :lol:

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Postby RebelLion1 » Sun May 10, 2009 10:42 pm

lol@ at the harry potter analogy.

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Re: Will Al-Shabaab reach Puntland? A joke, yes - your opinions?

Postby Real_1 » Sun May 10, 2009 10:46 pm

i fockin hate harry potter i always thought the whole concept was stupid western gaalo just love to have their kids in living in fantasy land so they can be sheltered from the real-world waa cnn for kids :mrgreen:

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Re: Will Al-Shabaab reach Puntland? A joke, yes - your opinions?

Postby Voltage » Sun May 10, 2009 10:57 pm

Real_1 wrote:i fockin hate harry potter i always thought the whole concept was stupid western gaalo just love to have their kids in living in fantasy land so they can be sheltered from the real-world waa cnn for kids :mrgreen:


I actually got hooked wallahi. The stories caadi maaha, once you get in it stops being a BOOK. :lol: I think I nearly finished the second book on a plane ride and the third book on a bus ride to Portland for a school trip. :lol:

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Re: Will Al-Shabaab reach Puntland? A joke, yes - your opinions?

Postby Cusmano » Sun May 10, 2009 11:06 pm

This is sensitive issue regarding will shabab invade puntland, i personally can't see that happening for two reasons. 1.Ethiopia backup...2. Western Interests such as "gulf aden passageway" don't want to see some crazy ass shabab dude putting "jizya" on the west to use the gulf of aden, which will mean the west will come and wipe the shabab guys out. 3. The bosasso protest regarding lockup of sheikh osman gave the indication that puntlanders wan't shariah, the funny thing is after president faroole did examination of the protest it was deemed that it was done by NOT natives of puntland but people who came from outside of the region. In other words he was saying the "IDPS" and we all know who they are :lol:

So as for this talk of shabab invading puntland, let them keep talking dreams they lack foresight and indepth knowledge on how wars operate and how you win wars. Paidmonk stop giving the maryooleys to much attention and just laugh it off :lol:

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Re: Will Al-Shabaab reach Puntland? A joke, yes - your opinions?

Postby Af_libaax » Sun May 10, 2009 11:09 pm

Paidmonkey

Alshabaab are not a joke anymore , they are here to stay foreseeable future , and will be real threat to every Somalis either You are in Puntiland or Somaliland , Altho You Puntilanders are very clever to adapt any situation that comes forth . prepare yourselves the Mujaahidiin will visit Puntiland !


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Re: Will Al-Shabaab reach Puntland? A joke, yes - your opinions?

Postby paidmonk » Sun May 10, 2009 11:32 pm

Cusmano, Ethiopia alone is enough to ensure Puntland's separation from Al-Shabaab and other anti-Ethiopian elements. Invasion of Somalia will become a national security priority for Zenawi in the case of Bosaso's invasion.

And simply put, there won't be a dawlad, let alone a Taliban-like one, ruling Somalia as a whole. Puntland has always been a sore spot for these guys. It didn't happen in 1992, 2006, and it won't happen today. I see all this shit happening just outside of Galkacyo in South Mudug, but that green line has never been passed by groups disloyal to Puntland. Even in 2006 when Baraxleey experienced war between Qeybdiid and the UIC, it never passed the green line even though bullets were dropping meters from the South-North divide.

It just won't happen.

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Re: Will Al-Shabaab reach Puntland? A joke, yes - your opinions?

Postby JaMaaL-23 » Sun May 10, 2009 11:38 pm

Its better to ask whether Alshabab will reach Galgaduud. even if they do Puntland will ally with the Mid Somalia Ahl Suna against Alshabab and thats would be too much to bite.

Alshabab have been routed by the Ahl suna forces in Galgaduud and lower Mudug regions. However, I predict Alshabab and Hisbul Islam Victory in Xamar if Ahl Suna (timoweyn) and Puntland do nothing now.

there are also no guarantees that Alshabab wouldn't turn on Hisbul Islam if they emerge victorious from the Hamar fighting.

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Re: Will Al-Shabaab reach Puntland? A joke, yes - your opinions?

Postby Cusmano » Sun May 10, 2009 11:55 pm

Paidmonk, i think puntlanders know quite well shabab are just local thugs considering the gross crimes they have committed like stoning a rape victim in kismayo, cutting hands, beheadings, etc. I don't think they wan't to see that sort of barbaric behaviours anywhere near they they live.

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Re: Will Al-Shabaab reach Puntland? A joke, yes - your opinions?

Postby paidmonk » Wed May 13, 2009 6:58 am

Bump.


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