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Ethiopian dhabadhilifs and my own conclusions.

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Ethiopian dhabadhilifs and my own conclusions.

Postby Addoow » Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:54 pm

Let me first start by defining what is an Ethiopian dhabadhilif.an Ethiopian dhabadhilif is any group ,person or entity which seeks active military,financial and moral support from the Masiixiyii Eithiopian regime.To illustrate this concept,just imagine a Pakistani politician or military leader seek indian military support to crush his own people and nation?? May allah never make such a person.

AFTER listening the concept of walaa wal baraa (a basic concept in our belief ) and having discussions with some religious people,i came to this conclusion.

1.it is sin to call the dhabadhilif muslim.He has already left the fold of islam.
2.It is waajib to kill,ambush or attack that group or person in any way possible.
3.His wealth and belongs are halal and taking them is permissible.
4.any one supporting that person/group is also like him/them because "Al-acmaalu bi niyah",allah doesnt look at your physical body but looks deep where your heart and sincerity lies.
5.It is permissible to arrange 5 to 4 young mujahidin and attack/ambush that kafir person/group and what ever they got is qaniimah.
6.his relatives and family should be informed to distant themselves from him it they insist supporting him know that he fell on the trench of kufr they should be targeted.

http://almuwahideen.blogspot.com/2005/1 ... er-of.html

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Re: Ethiopian dhabadhilifs and my own conclusions.

Postby XaliimoFarax » Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:56 pm

Heheh that’s a lot of groups in Somalia ukhi

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Re: Ethiopian dhabadhilifs and my own conclusions.

Postby Coeus » Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:59 pm

Support this 100% :up:

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Re: Ethiopian dhabadhilifs and my own conclusions.

Postby XaliimoFarax » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:01 pm

Support this 100% :up:
And you still support the TFG?

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Re: Ethiopian dhabadhilifs and my own conclusions.

Postby Coeus » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:03 pm

Support this 100% :up:
And you still support the TFG?
I support the TFG only until Al shabab is ousted and peace returns to the South side of Somalia. Then they can go to hell for all i care, true smart nationalists from the diaspora must be elected then.

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Re: Ethiopian dhabadhilifs and my own conclusions.

Postby XaliimoFarax » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:12 pm

^^^Even if they are dhabadhilifs at the moment?

Plus someone from the Diaspora should not be elected unless he meets certain conditions and first one his family should live in Somalia with him because this will show he is serious about fixing the place. I hate when their families are peaceful place away from the drama while they so called 'fix the country'. I say hypocrites if you would not have your family living there then don’t bother.

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Postby Alchemist » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:14 pm

^^^Even if they are dhabadhilifs at the moment?

Plus someone from the Diaspora should not be elected unless he meets certain conditions and first one his family should live in Somalia with him because this will show he is serious about fixing the place. I hate when their families are peaceful place away from the drama while they so called 'fix the country'. I say hypocrites if you would not have your family living there then don’t bother.
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What a nice name you have :D

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Postby XaliimoFarax » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:19 pm

^^^ Thanks ;)

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Re: Ethiopian dhabadhilifs and my own conclusions.

Postby Addoow » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:21 pm

Also Those people which fight with the masiixiiyiin against the muslims are not just Murtadiin or apostates they Automatically became Murtad Harbi an apostate at war with islam and muslims.alciyadu bilah.These groups include the so called Ahlusunna wal jamacah.

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Postby DR-YALAXOOW » Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:04 pm

this is mine concept of khawaarijsm , the takfiiri animals and their sheeydaan book called al-Walaa wal-Baraa , this is whats wrong today in Somalia, its that book which makes al shabaab animals to murder and killl innocent people because of these book they called al-Walaa wal-Baraa.

al shabaab cowards if they want to murder someone they just fabricate and accusse that person to be a dabadhilif and then murder that person most disgusting way whichs beheading and then rape their women, thats what al shabaab khawaarijtis do daily in south Somalia.

unfortunatly some like ADDOOW who enjoy living in west GAAALO COUNTRES and hes munaafiqnimo support those murders baby killers and their khawaariji book which they call al-Walaa wal-Baraa .
this disgusting nazi book is made for massmurder.

Addoow i feeel sorry for you. been others 0,5 made you full of cuqdad and wanting to kill women and children and elders. Let me tell you ADDOOW others inshalah al shabaab murders and their takfiiri sheeydaan book will be destroyed inshalah.

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Postby melo » Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:35 pm

This would be true, if and only if, Al-shabaab were a righteous party. What this situation looks like is one faajir movement (tfg) inviting kaafirs to help beat another faajir movement (shabaab). I don't see how either of them are better than the other.

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Postby AhlulbaytSoldier » Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:52 pm

Ethiopian dabadhilifs are corrupted muslims.
The only murtad is someone who hates the shariah. Some of the former tfg falls on this category , he said that shariah and state are seperate while using ethiopians to destroy mosques, pissing on the noble qurans. So that was exit kufr.

Reason why i say shabab are apostates is thanks to a hadith which says if a person accuses other to be apostate but he is not then the accuser is himself apostate.
Its clear that they accuse anyone who does not support them or alqeada are straight murtaddin, it means 99% of the muslim ummah are no longer muslims according to them.



On qabilism they are extreme while on religion they are also extremists.
O Allah cure the sick people from south somalia. They are an nation of jaahiliyah.

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Re: Ethiopian dhabadhilifs and my own conclusions.

Postby melo » Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:46 am

Ethiopian dabadhilifs are corrupted muslims.
The only murtad is someone who hates the shariah. Some of the former tfg falls on this category , he said that shariah and state are seperate while using ethiopians to destroy mosques, pissing on the noble qurans. So that was exit kufr.

Reason why i say shabab are apostates is thanks to a hadith which says if a person accuses other to be apostate but he is not then the accuser is himself apostate.
Its clear that they accuse anyone who does not support them or alqeada are straight murtaddin, it means 99% of the muslim ummah are no longer muslims according to them.



On qabilism they are extreme while on religion they are also extremists.
O Allah cure the sick people from south somalia. They are an nation of jaahiliyah.
You can't apply particular hadiths like that and just implement them in a general sense. If people start doing this, then you can also accuse people on mass of being munaafiqs, murtads, faajirs, mu'mins etc.

There is a more sophisticated way in applying this axaadith. A lot of things have to be taken into account.

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Re: Ethiopian dhabadhilifs and my own conclusions.

Postby LiquidHYDROGEN » Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:35 am

Melo hutuking speaks the truth. No muslim has the right to doubt another muslims sincerity in faith. It is one of the greatest fitnas today where making takfir on people is rampant. The prophet SAWS even said that if a person is decent and civil towards you, you have to automatically assume they are muslim until proven otherwise. But today you'll find people who are ignorant making takfir on people who are known to be muslim, just because they've sinned or did something bad. What gives them the right for them to call other people munafiqs/mushriks/kafirs etc. without knowledge nor evidence? That right belongs to Allah SWT because He alone has the knowledge and power to see into people's hearts. Not even the prophet SAWS nor the angels have that power.

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Re: Ethiopian dhabadhilifs and my own conclusions.

Postby Kukri » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:58 am

Let me first start by defining what is an Ethiopian dhabadhilif.an Ethiopian dhabadhilif is any group ,person or entity which seeks active military,financial and moral support from the Masiixiyii Eithiopian regime.To illustrate this concept,just imagine a Pakistani politician or military leader seek indian military support to crush his own people and nation?? May allah never make such a person.

AFTER listening the concept of walaa wal baraa (a basic concept in our belief ) and having discussions with some religious people,i came to this conclusion.

1.it is sin to call the dhabadhilif muslim.He has already left the fold of islam.
2.It is waajib to kill,ambush or attack that group or person in any way possible.
3.His wealth and belongs are halal and taking them is permissible.
4.any one supporting that person/group is also like him/them because "Al-acmaalu bi niyah",allah doesnt look at your physical body but looks deep where your heart and sincerity lies.
5.It is permissible to arrange 5 to 4 young mujahidin and attack/ambush that kafir person/group and what ever they got is qaniimah.
6.his relatives and family should be informed to distant themselves from him it they insist supporting him know that he fell on the trench of kufr they should be targeted.

http://almuwahideen.blogspot.com/2005/1 ... er-of.html

Another example of selective quotation and misinterpretation of the holy book.

The involvement of Ethiopia in Somali affairs and Somalis dealing with Ethiopia is not one that can be easily understood from a dabadhilif or none dabadhilif perspective.

If it was that easy, and the past 20 years is anything to go by, then Somalia will qualify as the land of kufr inhabited by a bunch of demented people who see Islam as nothing more than a convenient appliance.


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