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Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

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Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Postby The_Patriot » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:00 pm

Tribal rhetoric and that civil war debasement is so old and tired wallahi. Talk politics or move on. Tribal flame wars is only for waxmagarads. Very retrograde mentality.
I think the trip to Africa changed you alot.

V you plagiarised Obamas history.

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Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Postby HalfBked » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:05 pm

Didn't Faroole start this campaign only after being denied to conduct state level affairs with the EU and other European countries as a head of state and get clearance from the TFG?

I doubt he's even interested in running for office. This is more about leveling the playing field.

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Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Postby RovingMadness » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:08 pm

Tribal rhetoric and that civil war debasement is so old and tired wallahi. Talk politics or move on. Tribal flame wars is only for waxmagarads. Very retrograde mentality.
That's a valid point, but if people go that route they ought to be shown the light.

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Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Postby TheblueNwhite » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:10 pm

You have shown them the sun and the full moon. :D :D :D

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Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Postby abdalla11 » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:20 pm

LOOOL SYL being Mudulood :lol: Replace the S with M and you have Majeerteen Youth league :lol:

Wallahi i respect Adan Cadde, so i am not gonna diss him for a cuqdad filled kid. Abdirashiid sharmaake wasn't fired at all but he resigned only to be replaced by, who else, another Majeerteen. Why would your own people, since the playing field is in your back yard, 'marna rashiid marna razaaq inta kale ma rootiyaa' I will answer: Haa inta kale waa rooti lol

As for 4 out of the 13 SYL member being mudulood, is a pure fabrication. There was only one Abgaal

Yaasin Xaaji Sharmaake - Majerteen
Mohamed Xirsi Nuur - Majerteen
Ali Hassan - Majerteen
Dahir Xaaji Osman - Majerteen
Mohamed Sheekh Osman - Tunni
Abdilqaadir Sheikh - Tunni
Osman Geedi Raage - Abgaal
Mohamed Faarax Hilowle - Habar Gidir
Khaliif Huurdo Ma'alin - Sheikhaal
Mohamed Abdalla Hassan - Habar Awal
Dheere Xaaji Dheere - Reer Xamar
Xaaji Mohamed Hussein - Reer Xamar
Mohamed Ali Nuur - Reer Xamar

As for Nuux Maxamuud you only started to dislike them when they whooped your ass in the eighties. Prior to that you guys use to marry each other, heck some on you even use to claim them. I don't blame you to dislike them because we all know what happened in the eighties lol.

We are not on the same page ninyahow, even your prominent professor like kiss ass lick us. I advice every Majeerteen household to hire a Mudulood babysitter, being around with somebody who's constantly praising and looking up to you is good for your confidence :lol:

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Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Postby Username1 » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:22 pm

You have shown them the sun and the full moon. :D :D :D
Did you and the Sijui settle your differences or did he end up rubbing your gary glitter? :lol:

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Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Postby TheblueNwhite » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:17 pm

Kii qaniiska ayaa weli iga hari la', war qaniisyahow wax dabada kaa fuula wey buuxane ka day dayo Snet.

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Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Postby ibrahimcw » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:22 pm

Back to the topic: did anyone see Madaxweyne Ismaciil Cumar Geele of Jabuuti on Universal TV supporting Farmaajo decision and the TFG whiles calling Mahiga's meeting in Nairobi irrelevant and useless. Ismaciil Cumar Geele :up: :up: :up:

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Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Postby Amilla » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:35 pm

Is it me or does the Somali people respect and trust Farmaajo more than the so-call Somali president?

I am Yet to see people saying something negative about him. He must be doing something right. :up:

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Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Postby Voltage » Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:18 pm

Tribal rhetoric and that civil war debasement is so old and tired wallahi. Talk politics or move on. Tribal flame wars is only for waxmagarads. Very retrograde mentality.
I think the trip to Africa changed you alot.

V you plagiarised Obamas history.
Nah man, it is just backward wallahi. :lol:

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Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Postby RovingMadness » Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:46 pm

LOOOL SYL being Mudulood :lol: Replace the S with M and you have Majeerteen Youth league :lol:

Wallahi i respect Adan Cadde, so i am not gonna diss him for a cuqdad filled kid. Abdirashiid sharmaake wasn't fired at all but he resigned only to be replaced by, who else, another Majeerteen. Why would your own people, since the playing field is in your back yard, 'marna rashiid marna razaaq inta kale ma rootiyaa' I will answer: Haa inta kale waa rooti lol

As for 4 out of the 13 SYL member being mudulood, is a pure fabrication. There was only one Abgaal

Yaasin Xaaji Sharmaake - Majerteen
Mohamed Xirsi Nuur - Majerteen
Ali Hassan - Majerteen
Dahir Xaaji Osman - Majerteen
Mohamed Sheekh Osman - Tunni
Abdilqaadir Sheikh - Tunni
Osman Geedi Raage - Abgaal
Mohamed Faarax Hilowle - Habar Gidir :lol: :lol: :lol:
Khaliif Huurdo Ma'alin - Sheikhaal
Mohamed Abdalla Hassan - Habar Awal
Dheere Xaaji Dheere - Reer Xamar
Xaaji Mohamed Hussein - Reer Xamar
Mohamed Ali Nuur - Reer Xamar :lol: :lol: :lol:

As for Nuux Maxamuud you only started to dislike them when they whooped your ass in the eighties. Prior to that you guys use to marry each other, heck some on you even use to claim them. I don't blame you to dislike them because we all know what happened in the eighties lol.

We are not on the same page ninyahow, even your prominent professor like kiss ass lick us. I advice every Majeerteen household to hire a Mudulood babysitter, being around with somebody who's constantly praising and looking up to you is good for your confidence :lol:
You know I have a problem with moronic kids making absurd political pronouncements about events and historical episodes they have no idea of. :idea:

Abdirashid Sharmarke and President Aden Abdulle Osman had a political disagreement and he was forced to resign. Why else would he resign if everything was good between him and the President? Do you even read the none-sense you write, kid? President Aden Abdulle Osman was making threats of firing Abdirashid Sharmarke way before he was even actually fired. Where is this political clout you are speaking of?

He replied that he encourages individual or group protests to be sent to him. As they arrive, he passes the compliment on to the prime minister to investigate and to provide the president’s office with the facts of the situation. If the government’s reply is incomplete, or unsatisfactory, the president “requests” that reforms be made.

“Could your “request” for reform be better termed an ‘order’?” I asked.


The president smiled; he has an easily stimulated but gentle sense of humor.

Since I can ask the Prime Minister to resign,” he said, “my “requests” are usually followed!"


Four Ways of Politics: State and Nation in Italy, Somalia, Israel and Iran By E A Bayne Copyright 1965

Was it a surprise then that PM Abdirashid Sharmarke was booted out? :lol:

The quote, " marna rashid marna razaaq, inta kale ma rooti ya?" is the most misused and mistranslated phrase in my opinion in all of Somali politics. When Farah Golaley made that comment, he was not talking about Hawiye or any of the other Somali clans. It was strictly concerning Darod. What the great statesman was saying was that what happened to the rest of the other Darood clans since one MJ was fired and another appointed as prime minister. It has nothing to do with what you are deluding. What reason had Mudulood feeling envious of Majerteen? We had the Presidency, the Military, the Information Ministry and the Justice Ministry & Mayor of Mogadishu-the Capital while other Hawiye statesmen were the Foreign Ministry, Health & Labor Ministry, :lol:

Get your facts right before you open your mouth, kid. I don't even know why you are opening your mouth in my presence. You are a little no-body and trust me am gonna give you nightmares.

Moving to the SYL. LOL. This is what I call talking out of your butt. I mean, if you don't know what you are talking about shouldn't you at least shut your mouth and let others assume that you are stupid instead of opening it and proving them right? Kulaha only one was Mudulood and then he even posted the names of the SYL founders and assigned them some silly clans like he was in charge of determining peoples' clans :lol:

Osman Geedi Raage- Mudulood
Mohamed Faarax Hilowle (Farnaajo) .- Mudulood
Mohamed Ali Nuur- Mudulood
+1 another individual whose name escapes me now were all Mudulood,kid. There were 4 Mudulood founders in the 13-SYL founding members. This is a historical fact that no-one is going to ask for your opinion.

Kulaha the SYL was a Majerteen organization. No-one denies the first chairman of the SYL was Yaasin Haji Sharmarke, but few years after its inception, he died and was succeed by Abdullahi Ciise AUN and the SYL took a distinctly Hawiye character. I mean, when Abdullahi Cisse became the first Somali Prime Minister, Aden Abdulle Osman became the speaker of the Somali parliament; and you were looking for a place to use your " inta kale ma rootiya," eh :lol:
The delicate issue of Greater Somalia, whose recreation would entail the detachment from Ethiopia, Djibouti, and Kenya of Somali-inhabited areas, presented Somali leaders with a dilemma: they wanted peace with their neighbors, but making claims on their territory was certain to provoke hostility. Led by Haaji Mahammad Husseen, the SYL radical wing wanted to include in the constitution an article calling for the unification of the Somali nation "by all means necessary." In the end, the moderate majority prevailed in modifying the wording to demand "reunification of the dismembered nation by peaceful means."

During the four-year transition to independence, conflicts over unresolved economic and political issues took the form of intraparty squabbling within the dominant SYL rather than interparty competition, as Daarood and Hawiye party stalwarts banded into factions. The Daarood accused Iise's government of being under Italian influence and the Hawiye countered with a charge of clannishness in the Daarood ranks. Husseen's radical faction continued to charge Iise's government with being too close to the West, and to Italy in particular, and of doing little to realize the national goal of reconstituting Greater Somalia. Despite his rift with prime minister Iise, Husseen, who had headed the party in the early years, was again elected SYL president in July 1957. But his agenda of looser ties with the West and closer relations with the Arab world clashed with the policies of Iise and of Aadan Abdullah Usmaan, the parliamentary leader who would become the first president of independent Somalia. Husseen inveighed against "reactionaries in government," a thinly veiled reference to Iise and Usmaan. The latter two responded by expelling Husseen and his supporters from the SYL. Having lost the power struggle, Husseen created a militant new party, the Greater Somali League (GSL). Although Husseen's firebrand politics continued to worry the SYL leadership, he never managed to cut deeply into the party's constituency.
http://countrystudies.us/somalia/14.htm
In 1952, Xaaji Maxamad Xuseen went to Cairo, and the Hawiya wing of the SYL became more powerful. In the 1956 elections, the last to be held under direct Italian supervision, the SYL maintained its dominance, and the Italian administration appointed Cabdullahi Ciise as the FIRST Prime Minister of an all-Somali government. This signaled another change in the SYL's character, for Cabdullahi Ciise and the then SYL President, Aaden Cabdulle Cismaan, were both on good terms with the Italian administration.*

*Castagno, pp 523-25, Explains the change in the power balance by suggesting that the British Military Administration favored the Daarod clan, while the Italian Administration favored the Hawiya.


Politics, Language and Thought:The Somali Experience By David Laitin pp-100

LOL. Adding Salt to injury, Prime Minister Abdullahi Cisse AUN kicked out the only Majerteen minister in the Somali cabinet Muse Boqor for " health issues" questioning his mental state :lol: :lol:

About your last claim, :lol: @ Nuux Mohamud maintaining parity with the Mudulood. Lol, you make me laugh wallahi. These guys are our own Midgaan and it was always considered an insult for Mudulood men to marry them.

The Nooh Darood clan maintained a low status among the Abgaal clan, and was referred to by the Abgaal clan as GalGaale
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Do you even know that it is part of the Somali vernacular today to use phrases like, " Wallahi waxaa kuu gala sidee galgalaha loo gale" Why do you think there is today there is not a single Galgale soul in the Middle Shabelle Region? :lol:

Good thing you didn't even dare challenge my claim that Kenaadid was stoned to death in Mogadishu and that Boqor Osman died in Mogadishu as a prisoner. You have learned your lesson well from last year :lol:

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Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Postby TheblueNwhite » Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:54 pm

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Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

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Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Postby RovingMadness » Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:12 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:07 am

I support the Big Cheese :up: Why the fock does this Mahiga focker want to undo the very tangible progress being made by the Cabinet. Big Cheese is light years ahead and much better than Fat Boy.

We stand with Big Cheese :up: The Luggoyo called UN can go to hell. When they realize that the new TFG PM and cabineet are actually making progress and that the TFG's prospects are looking bright, they want to undo it so that the chaos continues which would allow them to sit in Nairobi drawing fat paychecks at the expense of the average Somali.


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