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Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:48 am
by abdalla11
RovingMadness,

It´s you who wants to elevate a donkey riding clan. You also showed me your desperation when you tried to interpret the slightest events as some kind of a hawiye masterplan ( hawiye masterplan=oxymoron). A father has to be gentle to his son, likewise a master to his ( former) slaves, so don't worry i won't retaliate your insults with insults. :)

to begin with Aden cadde, who i respect. Eventhough he was a President, he can't fire a PM. He just can't, it's against the constitution. It reminds me of when Shariif tried to fire Ina Sharmaake and the comic panel of Amin arts, the infamous caricature wherein Shariif read the guidelines of governance 'governance for dummies' lol. Abdirashiid Sharmaake resigned, point blank. The only time a PM was actually fired, in the most cruel sense of the word, was when AY fired Geedi while bombing his people, that must be nasty. Shariif tried to fire Ina Sharmaake but was humiliated and had to swallow his pride.

As for the SYL members, there was only one Abgaal. You can huff and you can puff was Somaliweyn knows SYL and the clan that controlled it.LOL@ the 'tafseer' of 'marna rashiid marna razaaq' you're very creative, maybe it has to do with the newly obtained freedom lol. I can see where their pain came from, to be outclassed, outsmarted in their own Mogadishu. It was never easy to be Abgaal in Mogadishu, maybe the Abgaals had much easier in Jowhar. Prof Togane explains the reason behind the chants of your folk
when Somalia enjoyed Pax Majertinya-Americana

under the suzerainty of the Salayman brothers;

when Rizaaq and Rashiid and Abshir,

all three of the blessed Majerten clan,

were at the helm of Somalia.

The brilliant English Social anthropologist,

I. M. Lewis,

who is

neither of the Majerten

nor of the Moablen clan,

who has dedicated his life to the study

of the soul & the psyche of the Somali,

called Rizaaq,

one of the most colorful,

the most charismatic,

and the most courageous sons of Somalis,

also the most effective Somali Prime Minister (1964-1967).

I concur.

Alas!

After exactly forty years,

the answer to that historical question my clan, the Abgal, sang

in that famous calypso song,

the terse tercet

that they had chanted in 1964

while dancing in a frenzy

of clannish hurt and humiliation and anger

on the streets of their city, their Mogadishu,

all the way to the Lido beach,

can now be answered with authority;

but first,

here is the calypso song

and the serious question

that the Abgal prancing braves

full of beans and piss and vinegar then posed:

Array!

Marna waa Rasheed

Marna waa Rizaaq

Inta kale ma roatiya?

Behold!

Once it was a Majerten called Rasheed

Once again it was another Majerten called Rizaaq

Is the rest just roatie?

Is the rest just toast?

The answer is:

the rest turned out to be unmitigated disaster.

Alas, at least one can eat toast for breakfast!

But what can one do with one disaster after disaster?

Since these sons of Heaven, Rasheed and Rizaaq and Abshir,

since their Majerten mandate from Heaven

that we Somalis had once enjoyed,

all the rest,

all the men of disaster

who ruined us and Somalia,
That gotta hurt :lol:

let's see if we have pictures of SYL

Image

2=Abdirashid Sharmarke, 3=Muhamed Cawale (son of Cawale Liibaan, creator the Somali flag)

4=Cabdirizaaq Xaaji Xussein,

Image

2=Maxamed Abshir, 3=Aadan Abdulle,

4=Cabdirisaaq, 5=Gen Daud

As for Abdullahi Ciise, i consider him the outcome of a Mareexaan investment ;)

Regarding the Galgale, you guys use to claim them 'sagaal abgaal ku tobaney' i.e become the tenth abgaal sunclan. Galgale have been fully assimilated into Abgaal. You guys marry from them and the marry from you.
Further reliance is placed on that particular report which says that the Galgala have assimilated into the Abgal in Jowhar and Mogadishu. They also identify themselves as Nuh Mohamud, a sub-clan of the Majerten clan.
The relationship got bad when Siad Barre armed them against Abgaal, they suffered the retalitions when Barre was ousted

The siad Barre regime armed the Galgale against the Abgaal, with whom they share a territory

Anatomy of violence: understanding the systems of conflict and violence Page 133
Belachew Gebrewold,Belachew Gebrewold-Tochalo

Roving, i admire your journey to elevate your clan, but the honest truth is when you guys are not shaking you asses for AY to bomb you guys or being deported from our PL, your elders resort into calaacal. How on god's name can a mighty clan allow their clan leader to hold a speech like this?



As for Keenadiid, i will reply about that in couple of hours. See you later

Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:07 am
by Siyadist
Twisted logic and Abdalla you are both wortless shit, SSDF betrayed Somalia and USC burned Somalia down, let me say it clear , HaWYIYIE AND majetien should be deported from somalia both of them animals qudhmis.

Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:28 am
by Username1
Abdallah ow about this...
E. M. Forster wrote, “So Two cheers for Democracy: One because it admits variety and two because it permits criticism.” By this criterion, Democracy is rampant in Somaliland!

As Lewis has recently observed in **The Guardian**,** **“with virtually no external help [Somaliland R epublic] has built itself up by a remarkable series of internal peace agreements and democratic consolid ation to its current situation as a functioning democracy.”*

*Casting this same thought in our Somali context, I say again, Two cheers for Somaliland: one because it has convincingly eschewed and has escaped from the endless and the senseless death and destruction, from the Evil and the Chaos and the Cruelty that runs riot, that runs rife, that runs rampant in the rest of erstwhile Somalia save that entity that now calls itself Puntland that still hankers after and sighs for that now impossible perfidious Darod daydream that her sons will one day, once again, run and rule and ruin Hargaysa and Mogadishu as they had done once upon a time when they had managed to foist that cruel fantasy, that fool’s errand that had fooled us all, that hoax, that wild goose chase that goosed us all Somalis, that pitiful pipedream, that pie in the sky, that one sweet day all the five Somali partitions—Hargaysa, Mogadishu, Djibouti, Ogaden, NFD will join together as brothers and sisters in solidarity, in the unity of the Somali Spirit in the bond of peace and in the Greatest Somalia under a wise, selfless Somali, patriotic and loyal leadership. *

As we all so sadly know now that Never-never land was never to be.

*The people of Somaliland have escaped from the fate of that morgue called Mogadishu because they h ad the sense, the sanity, the sobriety, the sagacity, the serenity to sit together as brothers and sister s, to reason together as brothers and sisters under the shady Tree of Wise Counsel and learn and listen to their Elders who had told them, “Come. There is a way to be good again”; that “The only truth is good ness . . .Nobody wins with Evil or anger”; that Nobody wins with violence and with “ Force [that always] shites upon Reason’s Back.”

*Hargaysa and her citizens said with one sane sound voice of solid solidarity “Fool us once, shame on yo u; fool us twice, shame on us!” *

*They have reverted to what they once were before we Southerners had taken them in by betraying them and by betraying the sacred trust they once had had in that noble vision of Greatest Somalia. They reverted to what they once were before we Southerners had taken them for a long, genocidal, la mentable, reckless rude, rough ride, before they had fallen for our Southern trick, for our Southern tri pe, for our Southern trap—they have reverted to being what they were— Somaliland, without the Briti sh this time round.

*Voluntarily, freely, by her own free and informed will, Hargaysa had once cast her lot with Mogadishu; now once again, voluntarily, freely and by her own informed and democratic will, Hargaysa has decided to sail solo, to decouple, to divorce, to secede from her erstwhile unity with now Mad Mindless Morgue Mogadishu.

*Any fugly fool who argufies that Hargaysa cannot do that, cannot secede—well, tell that jinni jerk to jump in the Juba River and drink it dry.

*Knowing Somalis, there are such jinni jerks galore that love to argue with what is so obvious, with wh at is so apodictic.

*Why should the same Somali blue flag with the five-pointed star (each point representing the five col onial partitions of the Somali people) fly and flutter proudly over Hargaysa—the same flag of Perfidy, of Genocide, of Dishonor, of Deceit, of Disgrace, the filthiest rag of a flag in the world, that was stamped on the wings of the MiGs that rained ruin, death, destruction, disaster, on the defenseless folks of Harg aysa.

*Afweyne who attempted such a contemptible genocide of the Issaq couldn't have been happier as Har gaysa and her citizens lay dying, bleeding, prostrate, pitiful, burning “Far from feeling any remorse, Pre sident Barre was beside himself with joy at his ‘triumph’. According to one former Somali official who pai d a visit: I have never seen Barre so relaxed and happy throughout my long association with him. He did not look like a President who had just destroyed his second capital, causing so much suffering and angui sh. He simply saw himself as a Darod . . . chief who had totally annihilated an enemy clan.”

*As a matter of fact, Lewis wryly observes that the worst excess of this “Daarood tyranny of Mohamed Siyaad Barre” was the attempted genocide of the Isaaq clan-family whose traditional tribal turf—Soma liland---Afwayne wanted to hand over in toto to the Ogaadeen, his maternal uncles, cousins and agna tes: “Ogaadeeni refugees were at the same time encouraged to take over Isaaq shops and houses in w hat, after their bombardment by Siyaad’s forces, were effectively ghost towns. Thus, those who had been earlier received as refugee guests in northern Somaliland had supplanted their Isaaq hosts, and many of the latter, in this bitterest ironic turn of fate, had become refugees in the Ogadeen.”

*No wonder now Somalilanders had seceded from our once solemn and sacred Somali Unity and now ta unt us Southerners as faqash: pigs and contemptible clowns and collaborators and coons and quislings of that Darod foolish fiend, Afwayne.


*Nevertheless, I am content to cast this caveat, to bear witness to the fact that a fellow Abgal pilot had flown his MiG and her bombs or ordinance away from Hargaysa into the sea by Djibouti. Furthermore, I am also content to cast another caveat, to bear witness to another fact: to the chagrin and to the consternation and to the apoplexy of the Darod Dictator, Afweyne, my Abgal clan chanted defiantly to his face:

*Dalkaaga Daafac didimayno!
*Idoar ku duul donimayno!*

*We don’t refuse to defend notre patrie!*
*But we most definitely don’t want to raid and rout the Issaq!*

*Never ever again will the writ of another god damn Darod Doddering Despot and his Myrmidons, like Morgan, the butcher of Hargaysa, or like Gani, the Marehan gung-ho goon, hold sway in Somaliland!

*This I am most certain despite the daydreaming of the punks of Puntland!*

*My second cheer for Somaliland is that because her citizens had done what seems impossible in the re alm of African politics: when the majority of Somaliland—Issaq—couldn’t agree among themselves on wh ich of their subclans ought the President come from, they were wise enough to select, to elect a non-Issaq to rule them rather than hack each other to death as the hopeless, hapless, Hutu Hawiye Helots from whom I unfortunately hail had done and are doing right now as I write this.

*Tacitly, implicitly, the world already recognizes Somaliland as a nation and as a country and as a Repu blic that is civilized, sane, and peaceful. The whole world is stunned by what Somaliland had already done, not once but thrice: electing freely and fairly three different Presidents peacefully: Egal, Royal Riyale, and now Silanyo!*

*Lewis has concluded his **Guardian** article thus “It’s time now to learn from Somaliland's success and see how to emulate it.”

*I am sure that the people to whom Mogadishu really belongs are going to heed his advice and rid them selves of what he had once famously referred to as “ Habar Gidir invaders” and their useless idiots.

*Archimedes once famously said, “Give me a place to stand, and I will move the Earth.” Now that Somalil anders have a Democratic place to stand, Somaliland Republic, I am sure that they will soon move the w hole civilized world to reward them with a well-deserved, explicit and an unequivocal outright recognitio n . Somalilanders have already moved the world toward that direction by making peace and by maintain ing Hargaysa as a haven of Peace in the horror-hacked Horn of Africa.

*Peace, the most priceless blessing, that few folks in Africa are lucky enough to possess.

*Truth has come; falsehood, fatude and Afweyne and his merciless, mirthless M. O. D have fled! Afwayne’s terrible M. O. D. Troika: (M)arehan (O)gaden (D)hulbahante: the tyranny of Afwayne and his despicable Darod MAD M. O. D. : the primitive and savage tribal troika, the modus operandi of Afwayne, that had once tyrannized and terrorized both Mogadishu and Hargaysa for.

*over two decades is now no more.

*MOD: “M stands for the patrilineage (Marehan) of the Brute; O for that of his mother’s and this means the Ogaden people who live in the critically sensitive Ogaden border region of Ethiopia; and D for the Dul bahante, ‘literally he who conquered all the lands’; the lineage of his son-in-law,” aptly dubbed, Dafle, the snatcher, the head of the dreaded NSS [Nasty Sickie Snatchers]: Afwayne’s storm troopers. *

*“The implications were succinctly expressed in a popular explanatory verbal formula: The Marehan are drunk on power; the Dulbahante are drunk on pride; the Ogaden are drunk on powdered milk. The Powd ered milk donated by international aid signifies the fact the Ogaden were mostly refugees from Ethiopia; Somalia was not even their country.”


*Truth has come; falsehood has fled with Afweyne and his MOD!

*Somaliland has dawned!*

*Somaliland!**Hannoolatto!*

*Long live Somaliland!*

:lol: :lol:

Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:21 pm
by RovingMadness
Abdalla11,

You took almost an entire day collecting anything and everything to save face, and yet all you could ever come up with is that none sense? That must be the lamest post in all of SNET, runti. How do you manage to constantly embarrass yourself like that? :lol:

The Fabulous Majerteen Mythology must be really rotten at the core to be destroyed like that. What did I tell you about opening your mouth in the presence of adults, kid? Trust me, your history of prostitution will not be able to save you, wallahi. Your entire arguments is based on 2 pictures that prove absolutely nothing while I cited historical documents and Books. See, if all you have to justify your claims are bedroom stories, the facts will destroy you.

From Amina Boqor Osman, to Boqor Osman to Keenadid, to writing letters of submission to British Colonizers, your history is built on prostitution. Fact is despite marrying his daughter to an English Colonial Officer, Boqor Osman died in Mogadishu prison arrested and tortured by the same Colonizers he married his daughter to. Amina Boqor Osman was divorced on the spot lol challenge me to proof my claims and Keenadid was handed to Hawiye mob in Mogadishu to be stoned to death. These 3 people are the Rriangle your entire history is based upon, and you have the audacity to brag about them as some sorts of heroes? Lol, in Somalia Keenadid and Boqor Osman was used to illustrate treason and prostitution in Somali History class :lol:

Then you posted some random images to prove of AbdiRashid Sharmarke and Abdirazzaq Haji Hussain to prove something and then claimed Abdullahi Cisse to be Marehan when the documents I presented from the CIA WorldFact Book CLEARLY SHOW that Abdullahi Ciise managed to force the Majerteen out of the SYL and even humiliated their lone man in the Somali cabinet of the 1950s when he accused him being " mentally handicapped." :lol:

Image

From right to left: Aden Abdulle Osman (then President of interim Parliament), an Italian governor, Abdullahi Iise (then Prime Minister), Sheikh Ali Jimale Barale (Minister for Labour and Social Affairs), Muse Boqor (Minister of Interior), Haji Farah (Minister of Finance).

Three of the Top Guys are Hawiye President Aden Abdulle Osman, Prime Minister Abdullahi Isse and Minister Shiekh Ali Jimale :lol:

You presented an image of an outgoing Majerteen Prime Minister shaking hands with incoming Majerteen Prime Minister to illustrate something? Lol how about a picture of an outgoing Gidir Head of State welcoming a Mudulood Head of State? Lol

Image

About the picture of Speaker Sheegow, Gen Mohamed Abshir, President Aden Abdulle Osman and Gen Daud Abdulle Hirsi you posted, I actually have the original picture and even though all 4 of those guys were great leaders but ONLY TWO OF THEM have Famous Avenues, Airports, Schools and Somalia's Soccer Championship named after them- they are Gen Daud Abdulle Hirsi and President Aden Abdulle Hirsi. So quit talking put of your ass.

About Nuux Mohamud being slaves of Mudulood lol isn't it even that you started your initial argument by claiming Majerteen enslaving people and now you are desperatly trying to proof that some Majerteen subclan as being equal with Mudulood :lol: :lol: :lol: EPIC FAIL wallahi and You even had to erase the line " Nuux Mohamud maintained A LOW STATUS AMONG THE ABGAAL" from the quote you used to show Nuux Mohamud being equal with Mudulood :lol: :lol: :lol:

Right now All you have are some sarcastic poems from Togane to validate yourself, lol but then you have inferiority Complex and your life depends on what others think of you because you have no confidence on yourself or who you are. I told you, I was gonna put you back in your place. Trust me, the pain hasn't started yet.

Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:32 pm
by grandpakhalif
Roving Madness,

You provide an insightful and alternative perspective to Somali history and also a vehement opponent of Somali revisionism, thanks for your input.

Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:52 pm
by ZubeirAwal
Abdallah ow about this...
E. M. Forster wrote, “So Two cheers for Democracy: One because it admits variety and two because it permits criticism.” By this criterion, Democracy is rampant in Somaliland!

As Lewis has recently observed in **The Guardian**,** **“with virtually no external help [Somaliland R epublic] has built itself up by a remarkable series of internal peace agreements and democratic consolid ation to its current situation as a functioning democracy.”*

*Casting this same thought in our Somali context, I say again, Two cheers for Somaliland: one because it has convincingly eschewed and has escaped from the endless and the senseless death and destruction, from the Evil and the Chaos and the Cruelty that runs riot, that runs rife, that runs rampant in the rest of erstwhile Somalia save that entity that now calls itself Puntland that still hankers after and sighs for that now impossible perfidious Darod daydream that her sons will one day, once again, run and rule and ruin Hargaysa and Mogadishu as they had done once upon a time when they had managed to foist that cruel fantasy, that fool’s errand that had fooled us all, that hoax, that wild goose chase that goosed us all Somalis, that pitiful pipedream, that pie in the sky, that one sweet day all the five Somali partitions—Hargaysa, Mogadishu, Djibouti, Ogaden, NFD will join together as brothers and sisters in solidarity, in the unity of the Somali Spirit in the bond of peace and in the Greatest Somalia under a wise, selfless Somali, patriotic and loyal leadership. *

As we all so sadly know now that Never-never land was never to be.

*The people of Somaliland have escaped from the fate of that morgue called Mogadishu because they h ad the sense, the sanity, the sobriety, the sagacity, the serenity to sit together as brothers and sister s, to reason together as brothers and sisters under the shady Tree of Wise Counsel and learn and listen to their Elders who had told them, “Come. There is a way to be good again”; that “The only truth is good ness . . .Nobody wins with Evil or anger”; that Nobody wins with violence and with “ Force [that always] shites upon Reason’s Back.”

*Hargaysa and her citizens said with one sane sound voice of solid solidarity “Fool us once, shame on yo u; fool us twice, shame on us!” *

*They have reverted to what they once were before we Southerners had taken them in by betraying them and by betraying the sacred trust they once had had in that noble vision of Greatest Somalia. They reverted to what they once were before we Southerners had taken them for a long, genocidal, la mentable, reckless rude, rough ride, before they had fallen for our Southern trick, for our Southern tri pe, for our Southern trap—they have reverted to being what they were— Somaliland, without the Briti sh this time round.

*Voluntarily, freely, by her own free and informed will, Hargaysa had once cast her lot with Mogadishu; now once again, voluntarily, freely and by her own informed and democratic will, Hargaysa has decided to sail solo, to decouple, to divorce, to secede from her erstwhile unity with now Mad Mindless Morgue Mogadishu.

*Any fugly fool who argufies that Hargaysa cannot do that, cannot secede—well, tell that jinni jerk to jump in the Juba River and drink it dry.

*Knowing Somalis, there are such jinni jerks galore that love to argue with what is so obvious, with wh at is so apodictic.

*Why should the same Somali blue flag with the five-pointed star (each point representing the five col onial partitions of the Somali people) fly and flutter proudly over Hargaysa—the same flag of Perfidy, of Genocide, of Dishonor, of Deceit, of Disgrace, the filthiest rag of a flag in the world, that was stamped on the wings of the MiGs that rained ruin, death, destruction, disaster, on the defenseless folks of Harg aysa.

*Afweyne who attempted such a contemptible genocide of the Issaq couldn't have been happier as Har gaysa and her citizens lay dying, bleeding, prostrate, pitiful, burning “Far from feeling any remorse, Pre sident Barre was beside himself with joy at his ‘triumph’. According to one former Somali official who pai d a visit: I have never seen Barre so relaxed and happy throughout my long association with him. He did not look like a President who had just destroyed his second capital, causing so much suffering and angui sh. He simply saw himself as a Darod . . . chief who had totally annihilated an enemy clan.”

*As a matter of fact, Lewis wryly observes that the worst excess of this “Daarood tyranny of Mohamed Siyaad Barre” was the attempted genocide of the Isaaq clan-family whose traditional tribal turf—Soma liland---Afwayne wanted to hand over in toto to the Ogaadeen, his maternal uncles, cousins and agna tes: “Ogaadeeni refugees were at the same time encouraged to take over Isaaq shops and houses in w hat, after their bombardment by Siyaad’s forces, were effectively ghost towns. Thus, those who had been earlier received as refugee guests in northern Somaliland had supplanted their Isaaq hosts, and many of the latter, in this bitterest ironic turn of fate, had become refugees in the Ogadeen.”

*No wonder now Somalilanders had seceded from our once solemn and sacred Somali Unity and now ta unt us Southerners as faqash: pigs and contemptible clowns and collaborators and coons and quislings of that Darod foolish fiend, Afwayne.


*Nevertheless, I am content to cast this caveat, to bear witness to the fact that a fellow Abgal pilot had flown his MiG and her bombs or ordinance away from Hargaysa into the sea by Djibouti. Furthermore, I am also content to cast another caveat, to bear witness to another fact: to the chagrin and to the consternation and to the apoplexy of the Darod Dictator, Afweyne, my Abgal clan chanted defiantly to his face:

*Dalkaaga Daafac didimayno!
*Idoar ku duul donimayno!*

*We don’t refuse to defend notre patrie!*
*But we most definitely don’t want to raid and rout the Issaq!*

*Never ever again will the writ of another god damn Darod Doddering Despot and his Myrmidons, like Morgan, the butcher of Hargaysa, or like Gani, the Marehan gung-ho goon, hold sway in Somaliland!

*This I am most certain despite the daydreaming of the punks of Puntland!*

*My second cheer for Somaliland is that because her citizens had done what seems impossible in the re alm of African politics: when the majority of Somaliland—Issaq—couldn’t agree among themselves on wh ich of their subclans ought the President come from, they were wise enough to select, to elect a non-Issaq to rule them rather than hack each other to death as the hopeless, hapless, Hutu Hawiye Helots from whom I unfortunately hail had done and are doing right now as I write this.

*Tacitly, implicitly, the world already recognizes Somaliland as a nation and as a country and as a Repu blic that is civilized, sane, and peaceful. The whole world is stunned by what Somaliland had already done, not once but thrice: electing freely and fairly three different Presidents peacefully: Egal, Royal Riyale, and now Silanyo!*

*Lewis has concluded his **Guardian** article thus “It’s time now to learn from Somaliland's success and see how to emulate it.”

*I am sure that the people to whom Mogadishu really belongs are going to heed his advice and rid them selves of what he had once famously referred to as “ Habar Gidir invaders” and their useless idiots.

*Archimedes once famously said, “Give me a place to stand, and I will move the Earth.” Now that Somalil anders have a Democratic place to stand, Somaliland Republic, I am sure that they will soon move the w hole civilized world to reward them with a well-deserved, explicit and an unequivocal outright recognitio n . Somalilanders have already moved the world toward that direction by making peace and by maintain ing Hargaysa as a haven of Peace in the horror-hacked Horn of Africa.

*Peace, the most priceless blessing, that few folks in Africa are lucky enough to possess.

*Truth has come; falsehood, fatude and Afweyne and his merciless, mirthless M. O. D have fled! Afwayne’s terrible M. O. D. Troika: (M)arehan (O)gaden (D)hulbahante: the tyranny of Afwayne and his despicable Darod MAD M. O. D. : the primitive and savage tribal troika, the modus operandi of Afwayne, that had once tyrannized and terrorized both Mogadishu and Hargaysa for.

*over two decades is now no more.

*MOD: “M stands for the patrilineage (Marehan) of the Brute; O for that of his mother’s and this means the Ogaden people who live in the critically sensitive Ogaden border region of Ethiopia; and D for the Dul bahante, ‘literally he who conquered all the lands’; the lineage of his son-in-law,” aptly dubbed, Dafle, the snatcher, the head of the dreaded NSS [Nasty Sickie Snatchers]: Afwayne’s storm troopers. *

*“The implications were succinctly expressed in a popular explanatory verbal formula: The Marehan are drunk on power; the Dulbahante are drunk on pride; the Ogaden are drunk on powdered milk. The Powd ered milk donated by international aid signifies the fact the Ogaden were mostly refugees from Ethiopia; Somalia was not even their country.”


*Truth has come; falsehood has fled with Afweyne and his MOD!

*Somaliland has dawned!*

*Somaliland!**Hannoolatto!*

*Long live Somaliland!*

:lol: :lol:

Made my day, did you write that?

Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:52 pm
by ibrahimcw
Back to topic:

Farmaajo meets Kenyan Prime minister in an effort to dislodge Mahigas hopes of a meeting.


Wixii kasoo baxay kulankii raysulwasaarayaasha Soomaaliya iyo Kenya.

Caabudwaaq:(R.CW) Reysalwasaarayaasha Soomaaliya iyo Kenya ayaa maanta shir jaraa’id ku qabtay banaanka hore ee xafiiska Raila Odinga ee magaalada Nairobi.

Shirkan jaraa’id ayaa waxa ay qabteen kulan ay yeesheen kadib oo ay uga wada hadleen shirkii ay dhowaan Qaramada Midoobay sheegtay inay u qabanayso dowlada KMG ah iyo Maamul goboleedyada jira.

Maxamed C/laahi Farmaajo ayaa waxa uu sheegay in uu Odinga kala hadlay inuu ka dhaadhiciyo dowladiisa in shirka lagu qabto gudaha Soomaaliya isla markaana uu soo dhaweeyay Raysul wasaare Raila Odinga oo balan qaaday inuu kala hadlayo dowladiisa.

Dhinca kalena raysal wasaare Farmaayo ayaa u mahad celiyey shacabka Kenya iyo dowladooda oo uu sheegay inay soo dhaweeyeen ummada Soomaaliyeed ilaa hadana ay hiil iyo hooba la garab taagan yihiin.

Farmaayo ayaa sheegay inay dowlada Kenya Ciidamo badan u tababartay dowlada Soomaaliya hadana ay sii laba jibaarayso mawqifka ay kaqabtana ay u muujisay beesha caalamka.

Waxa uu raysal wasaare Maxamed C/laahi Farmaajo, ka war bixiyay dagaaladii dhowaan ay la galeen Kooxda Al shabaab oo uu guulo ka sheegay inay dowlada KMG ku gaadhay.

Iskusoo wada duuboo Safarka raysulwasaare Farmaayo ee Kenya oo ay dadku saadaalinayeen inuu iska badali doono go’aankii hore ee uu ka qaatay shirka ay Qaramada Midoobay ku qabanayso Kenya ayaan noqo sidii lamoodayay isagoo halkiisii ku adkaystay, Farmaajo iyo wafdigiisuna maalinta bari ah ayuu dalkii dib ugu noqon doonaa.


Ubax Cadood

Nairobi Kenya. (R.W) radiocabudwaq

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Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:37 pm
by TheblueNwhite
Roving just handed another knock out to that ignorant fool. These idiots never learn. Look at this faggot username1 injecting his idoor clan into the discussion. Nigga this thread is about Somalia, go jerk off somwhere else, the big clans are talking here. :som: :som: :som:

Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:08 pm
by abdalla11
RovingMadness

Somalis say ´ku qabso ku qadi meysidee´ and majeerteen is applying that philosophy at the expense of your people and i know it pains you, on top of that the worst genocide happened in your city not too long ago while your elders where clapping their butt cheeks for a president from my clan. My question is if you can´t do anything about the present how on earth can you change the past? You disgracefully claimed that a president can fire a PM and i proved you that it was gibberish. If mudulood were that superior they wouldn't lose the election on 1967. Though i respect Aden Cadde he was simply outsmarted and outmanouvred by Sharmaake but nonetheless much respect goes to both of them AUN. There is reason why Somalis use to say "marna Rashiid marna razaaq' and ofcourse my favourite 'Majeerteen iyo intii madax madow baa siman'

Like a true donkey you are now restorting into baseless stories but then again you hail from a clan that use to refer guns as 'dhuuso dadka disha' never heard about the story of an abgaal hearing gunfire and saying 'unuka dhuuso dadka disha baan aragnay':lol:

The history of Keenadiid is written in gold and every major somali clan has praised him in their poems. I will give you, Kunta Kinte, a compilation of those gabays

Let's start with the Isaaq poet, Muhammed Bulxaan, when he did his famous poem 'Dal dhameeye' wherein he was desribing all the misery that felt upon the Somalis such as drought, hardship and colonisation and he included the deportation of Keenadiid as one of the miseries that felt upon Somalis.

1-Burhaan Gabay bulaalow beryahan beeg isma lahayne.

Waataan ka baaliday sidii beeyo roob helaye.
Aan bayamiyo waataan tixaha buuni ku ahaaye.
Nuux Maxamed waa tuu is bulay beri colowgiiye.
Bixin kuma lisaan qaalmihii bool cadka ahaaye.
Biyaha Yuusuf iyo Aadan wow kala baqaayaaye.
Barbaar jeedal sidataa ka nool labadi beeloode.
Burcadii Raguud iyo Xiis way banaantahaye.
Batar kama tumaan Muusayaal Barandihii Maydhe.
Laas-qoray baqoolkii magalo bedenki reer Suure.
Boosaaso iyo Eylna waa laga baroortaaye.
Burunjihii ka maray Nuur Cismaan Jarayey Baanaha'e
Baxsow Kenadiid wuxuu u kacay beled shisheeyaahe.
Hobyo ugama baaqeen kuwii Baho u weynaaye.

Gabaygu wuu dheer yahay ee intaan uga danlahaa ayaan ku joojiyey---.
Boqor iyo ka hoosow ma jiro niman budhaysnayne.
dadkaba niman baduugaha mar noqon buuga laga waaye.

It's an honor that a man who has nothing got to do with you describe your departure as a calamity that felt upon Somalis :up:

Past forward to Geylaan Nour Gurey, who was a Darawiish commander and hailed from the Mandhibaan tribe. He too was decribing the plight of Somalis and pay attention to the last verse.

Nin diin dhigan lahaa iyo ninkii darajo eegaayey.
Iyo fiqi cilmigga daalacshoo dumar xalaaleeyey.
Iyo Boqor sidii ceel durdura loo dareerahayo.
Iyo wiil da'diisii kacdoo timaha deebeeyey.
Iyo deeq ninkii bixin jiriyo geesi diriraaya.
Iyo daabad nimankii lahaa daday ahaayeenba.
Waa tii daraawiish aduun loogu dawgalaye.
Mudug waa dalaal oo raggii daaqi jirey waaye.
Dooxooyinkii laga abaad daranta weynaaye.
Inuu Ciise Maxamuud dam yiri duluglihii sheegye.
Dufan waxaan lahayn baa ka haray magaci Daaroode.
Anigu daalimaayee waxaan haddal ku duuduubay.
Dabarka Yuusuf Cali baa u daran duni dhamaanteede. << I know you don't speak somali, so let me translate for you: The defeat of Yusuf Cali is the worst of all.

mind you that some parts of Somalia were already colonized ( like where you hail from lol) and there were lots of calamities but he ought the defeat of Yusuf Cali as the worst of all, because he was the Last Man Standing!

LOL@ Hawiye defeating Cali Yusuf, since when where you guys Italians? :lol: BTW you even admitted Cali Yusuf defeated your petty clans

Lol, if anything shouldn't you be embarrassed about the fact that the only guy in your clan to have ever defeated a Hawiye subclan was captured by a Mudulood Jimcale Cabdulle and stoned to death in Mogadishu by a Mudulood mob?
That's the past. The present is your people are getting annihilated by the minute and i was the cause of it. Now run from you situation, Kunta Kinte

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Username,
What has somaliland got to do with it? :lol:

Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:14 pm
by TheblueNwhite
...you have inferiority Complex and your life depends on what others think of you because you have no confidence on yourself or who you are. I told you, I was gonna put you back in your place. Trust me, the pain hasn't started yet.
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Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:53 pm
by RovingMadness
Abdalla11,

You should really win a medal for the most moronic debater on SNET. You are jumping all over the place with your lame arguments making one incoherent statement after another and in the process looking out like the fool you are. You should give up already when you can, because from here on, it is only gonna get ugly for you. :idea:

About Nuux Mohamud, LOL You started your arguments by saying Majerteen were enslaving people and now you are left denying that your people were enslaved by Mudulood even though the position of the Nuux Mohamud among the Abgaal is very well known and I even presented quotes from non-Somali sources. Your sudden transformation is an EPIC Fail :lol: :lol: :lol:

I don't know what fuss you are creating about the firing of PM Abdirashid Sharmarke, his performance report card was brought in front of the parliament and was given a pink slip by the President Aden Abdulle Osman. Simple like that. I don't know what your little revisionism aims to accomplish. Or you want us to believe that Abdirashid Sharmarke just woke up one morning and decided, " I am going to quit!" :lol: Quit arguing kid, he was fired the same way his son was FIRED last year by Sh Sharif. Resigning is just a euphemism for a Pink Slip but then you wouldn't anything about it because your illiterate self won't be able to differentiate, can you? LOL, as I said, President Aden Abdulle Osman was threating to FIRE Abdirashid Sharmarke years before he actually made him do so.
He replied that he encourages individual or group protests to be sent to him. As they arrive, he passes the compliment on to the prime minister to investigate and to provide the president’s office with the facts of the situation. If the government’s reply is incomplete, or unsatisfactory, the president “requests” that reforms be made.

“Could your “request” for reform be better termed an ‘order’?” I asked.


The president smiled; he has an easily stimulated but gentle sense of humor.

Since I can ask the Prime Minister to resign,” he said, “my “requests” are usually followed!"


Four Ways of Politics: State and Nation in Italy, Somalia, Israel and Iran By E A Bayne Copyright 1965 [/b]

The quote "Marna Rashid marna Razzaq" was actually talking about Darod and had no connection with Hawiye except the person who made it. Again, answer my question, Why would Hawiye care about who gets the PM position when the President of the State, Head of Military, Justice Ministry, Mayor of Mogadishu, Health & Labour Ministry were ALL Hawiye? It is amazing how dense someone can be. But then you are the one that claimed that Mohamed Faarax Hilowle (Farnaajo) and Mohamed Ali Nuur were Habar Gidir and Reer Xamar when they Both men were Mudulood, so your credibility stops there. :lol:

LMAO@ the history of Keenadid being written in gold :lol: :lol: Wallahi, you are one funny guy. This is the same Keenadid that sheltered and welcomed the Italian colonizers when Mudulood defeated them at Lafole.

”First Adowa, then Lafole; the future of Italian colonialism in the Horn of Africa looked very unpromising at th end of 1896 hand it not been for the Northeast Somalis"


But from being a welcomer of the colonists, both him and Boqor Osman who married his own daughter Amina Boqor Osman to a British Officer were ultimately captured by Hawiye and brought to Mogadishu and spent their last hours at the hands of Hawiye. No group else in the world would be brought about this, but then when your entire history is built upon prostitution, I guess everything works :lol:

The Italians then won the support of the anti-Obbian Hawiye tribesmen of the Southern part of the sultnate and, in Junuary 14, the Somali irregulars defeated the rebels at Shillave in the Ogaden and forced Omar Samantar and the remnant of his men to flee deeper into Ethiopia

Italian Colonialism in Somalia by Robert L Hess pp 154


De Vecchi decided that it was important to strategically to advance north from Obia, occupy Nogal, and thus hem the rebels in. For this task the Somali irregulars were employed once more at the great saving of money and men. Confronted by the Italian advance, Omar Mohamud and the Isa Mohamud, traditionally bitter enemies united under Herzi Bogor who fortified Eil at the mouth of Nogal. On February 17, the Italians advanced on Eil and Ilig and dispersed the rebels. The Omar Mohamud reluctantly agreed to disarm. When Herzi Bogor announced that he would recapture Eil at any cost, however, they again rallied to his side. On May 15, 1926, the rebels assualted Eil but met with complete defeat. Many of the Omar Mohamud returned to the Italian side; " yesterdays enemies became a precious instrument for Italian action" By late June the complete disarmament of the Omar Mohamud had been achieved, a month later the Eritrean forces occupied Nogal

The Italians concentrated large irregular forces of Habar Gidir and Omar Mohamud and repeated the march to Darror. They took Skushuban, and in January, 1927, the Somali irregulars and regular troops from Hafun closed in on the upper Darror.
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The rebels were forced to flee into British Somaliland and the Italians completed the occupation of the Majjertein. The three-month second Darror campaign had cost the Mijjertein dearly. On March 3, Yusuf Mahmud, brother of the Sultan, surrended to the Italians. Shortly afterward, Osman Mahmud surrended to the British at Berbera and was sent to Mogadishu, where he joined his brother, other members of his family and the exiled sultan of Obbia. On November 6, 1927 the formal act of submission took place. Osman Mohamud dramatically consigned his sword to Governor De Vecchi and renounced his rights as a sultan. An Era had come to end in Northern Somalia.
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Italian Colonialism in Somalia by Robert L Hess pp 154-156

In May, 1924, De Vecchi visited Obbia and compelled Ali Yusuf to take oath of subjection and complete obedience. To the proud northern Somali, the oath must have been humiliating: " Command me and I shall obey any order the government may give; once I was ignorant, but now I know the truth and I am in your power"

Italian Colonialism in Somalia by Robert L Hess pp 152

As a precautionary measure, re moved Ali Yusuf and his family to Mogadishu

Italian Colonialism in Somalia by Robert L Hess pp 154

It must be really depressing supporting someone who married his own daughter to the colonizers only for them to support your enemy and kill you at their hands :lol:

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We returned to Alula, both angry, and the doubt and suspicion grew until like the kherif outside, they screamed through my tortured mind that my love meant nothing to her, that she really loved Sheik Abdurraham Mursal's son and that she was just a tool of her father, the Sultan, and was merely pretending a love of make-believe in order to further the ends of her tribe :lol: :lol: :lol: :down:

A Tear For Somalia By Douglas Collins

Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:06 pm
by RovingMadness
Wallahi, I am not going to insult my glorious grandfathers whose struggle against colonization is well known and celebrated by all Somalis by comparing them to the people that were using their own daughters as prostitutes by marrying them to the colonizers, but I am going to leave you with couple quotes that will shame your stupid comparisons. Don't you know I come from the clan that wiped the Italians out at Lafole and killed their chief leader Antonio Cecchi while your clan was bending over for them? :lol: :lol:
Compare this 2 cases on 2 Somali tribes by the same Italian explorer.
A little later, as we crossed the long series of small and rugged hills that stretch into the background, across the country, we were suddenly attacked by a large gang of Somali Uarsceik of which there is locked on him, covered with a swarm of arrows, insistently pulling unbelievable. It grew a uproar of the devil, the confrontation was violent and terrible. The enemy had many wounded and some were dead on the ground. Riassaliti again closed in the midst of a hostile crowd that thronged about us, tirandoci with? tinuously barbs and run with frantic fury, not to say that we were agonizing situation. In the darkness of that night, I do not know how many ferimmo, only three or four fell electrocuted by our Wetttrli, and so we could open up the road and spin straight noje and certainly with less accidents.




Just allontanatomi from Athaliah, the Somali tribe Abgal (Hauija) of those surroundings, aware of my trip, they wanted at all costs to prevent, and attack us with the intention to kill us all.
Indeed, on the afternoon of April 28, met in the plains of Amarosle three of these compact arrays Somali Abgal, which try to close the road and prevent us reaching the wells. Sent to parliament, but it was useless, and had his back to make shots to disperse rowdy horde of people and ferocious. But only one was killed instantly, through the work of my servant, who took point-blank, others do not know if more or less injured, were dispersed with the crew that ran off, and so I could continue, and rotten rushed to get in a few days Meregh where, rifornitomi of supplies, I sent out the elder with all my stuff in OBBI, with two of my soldiers, because I preserved my luggage at the Sultan Ali Jussuf. :down:


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Just yet, we are approached by a dau (small elder) of Sultan Mahmud Osman, and through his nacttda know that the sultan was not Allula, but finds the town of vessels Bared, where soon we sent a message to warn of our arrival.

On that day at the beach with the sea waves broke loose and soft, but very large, so much so, despite repeated attempts, we were able to board the boat to go ashore without plunging into the water. But I did not I noticed that more time, I undressed and gained the shore by swimming, where I had a really 'reception ultra friendly, very affectionate, a crowd of people waiting for me on the beach, happy to see me get to their primitive way , to find many friends and know that you had left. :down:
Source: Bollettino della Società geografica italiana, Volume 28 By Società geografica italiana
In December of that year Captain Filonardi went on the ship in order to visit the two sultans OBBI and Migertini to ratify the existing treaties. In return he visited the Volta Costada Uarsceik, the main town of the great tribe of Abgal, a spear was put to sea, but soon! put our foot on the ground were killed and were assailed Sub-Lieutenant, Zavaglia, and the driver Bertorello. Before the tragic taking possession of our territories, so to speak, ideals, which had cost us so much gii Rupee sounding ephah of 'Empress Victoria.
Source: L'Eritrea nel passato e nel presente: ricerche, impressioni, delusioni di un ...
By Achille Bizzoni

http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA560& ... utput=text

Told us that soon, and we from our station in Italy, one of the country had set itself to run, in 'internal to preach to those people that Frengi (foreigner), who had passed Uarsceik dispersing those who opposed , had set out to also through their regions, heading Meregh, and was determined to spend at any cost. He added that many of those natives were given the understanding to surprise us, prevent us from drawing water at wells and assault.

The young friend Guled Farah had attended their meetings, their discussions about and heard their cries of war, ensuring that a good number of them, excited by greed and lust for revenge, we were outnumbered by lying in wait .

I thanked him, gave him a gift, I ordered to load the camels, appliances cleaned their weapons and handed out cartridges to my soldiers. I resumed running after an hour.
http://books.google.com/books?id=TmUMAQ ... text#c_top

Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:09 pm
by RovingMadness
About Hawiye, lol, everyone knows the position of Hawiye and the power we enjoy, so who needs the views of some Majerteen fisherman? :lol: But this is what the great Issaq poet Dharbaaxo Jinn said about Hawiye


Intay sharafti maydheen Kufriga uma miciinaane
Calankii maqnaa iyo Dhulkii Saynka may marine
Ma martiyin amxaarada siduu yahay Majeerteene

Moxog diirayaa iyo Hawiye Muufa dubayaaba
Waa niman masuul qaadi kara magacna kaa roone
Habar Gidirta Mudug joogta iyo Sacadka aad maagtay

Murursadiyo Cayriyo Abgaal mudane weeyaane
Waa niman halkaas aad marteen maro ka saarnayne
Waa niman midnimadooda jecel midhaha Soomaale
Waxba hays marmarin waa dad aan kula masoobayne :up: :up: :up:


The meaning of the poem

They fought for somali dignity, and they are not lackys for the gaalos
The missing flag is not something they would stop fighting for
They did not welcome The amxaars , like the majeerteen
eating moxog or moofo, is not something shameful
They are people that can carry responsibility And have better Title then u

The habargedir in mudug and the sacad u insulted. The murursade and the abgaal Are your Superiors
They are people that will not follow you into darkness
They are people that love unity and somalinimo
Dont associate your self with them they are above your League :up: :up: :up:

Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:22 pm
by RovingMadness
One more thing before I leave, about the 1967 elections, President Aden Abdulle Osman did not lose the elections because of majerteen, who are you kidding? You clan was expunged from the SYL by Prime Minister Abdullahi Cisse and President Aden Abdulle Osman in the 1950s. This is what a Western Historian said talking about the SYL.
These two areas were to be joined later into what came to be known as Somalia, but at the outset even some of the leaders in the trust territory were uneasy about the prospects of their party should the motion of unification be promoted. As members of the Hawiye tribe (which was over-represented in government) some governmental leaders feared a loss of power should the Darods of British Somaliland, after unification, support the opposition
parties.
The leaders of the majority party, the SYL, were Aben Abdullah Osman, the chairman, and Abdullah Issa. Osman was a trader and vice president of the Territorial Council Issa had led the opposition to the
assignment of Italy as the Administering Authority.
At the outset of trusteeship, the indigenous leaders were tribal chiefs. The emergence of political parties brought with it the rise of a different kind of leader. Of the new leaders, the principal ones were Abdullahi Issa, the Prime Minister, Aden Abdulla Osman, president of the Legislative Assembly, and the political party leaders. Their rise did not eclipse completely the chieftans, an observation prompted by the obviously tribal nature of Somali society.
Somalia: From Trust Territory to Nation, 1950-1960
Author(s): Gilbert Ware
Source: Phylon (1960-), Vol. 26, No. 2 (2nd Qtr., 1965), pp. 173-185
Published by: Clark Atlanta University
Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/273632

Politics, Language and Thought: The Somali Experience By David Laitin pp-121

The Hawiye Union party was a fringe element within Hawiye politics. Somalia's premier party at the time was the SYL. Hawiye was in the driving seat.
In 1952, Xaaji Maxamad Xuseen went to Cairo, and the Hawiya wing of the SYL became more powerful[/u]. In the 1956 elections, the last to be held under direct Italian supervision, the SYL maintained its dominance, and the Italian administration appointed Cabdullahi Ciise as the FIRST Prime Minister of an all-Somali government. This signaled another change in the SYL's character, for Cabdullahi Ciise and the then SYL President, Aaden Cabdulle Cismaan, were both on good terms with the Italian administration.*


Castagno, pp 523-25, Explains the change in the power balance by suggesting that the British Military Administration favored the Daarod clan, while the Italian Administration favored the Hawiya.

Politics, Language and Thought: The Somali Experience By David Laitin pp-100

This is the last interview given by the father of the Somali nation President Aden Abdulle Osman before his death in 2007 and he talked about the reasons he lost the 1967 Elections and he said:

Q: Kasmo: Intii aad siyaasadda Soomaaliya ku jirtay, maxaa kuugu yaab badnaa ee ku soo maray?

Aadan Cadde: Waxyaabaha kale ee iga yaabiyay waxay ahayd markii koox ka tirsan siyaasiyiintii Waqooyiga Soomaaliya ka soo jeedday ay iila yimaadeen doorashadii sanadkii 1967-dii inaan siiyo jagada ra’iisul-wasaaraha, iyagana ay cidkeyga I siinayaan si aan mar kale madaxweynenimada isugu soo taago. Waxaan ku iri: “Anigu beelna gorgrotan kulama gelayo inay I doortan ama I ridaan, qarannimo iyo qabiilna hala kala fogeeyo”. Raggii markii wax qanciya ay iga waayeen ayay u tageen Allaha u naxariistee C/rashiid Cali Sharmaarke oo ay la heshiiyeen.

Mashallah, President Aden Abdulle Osman was far ahead of his time and placed morals and principles above his personal interest. Is there ANYONE from your clan that can equal him and Gen Daud Abdulle Hirsi and the other Great Statesmen from my clan? No wonder the most important Avenue in Mogadishu Aden Cade Avenue and our capital city's Aden Cade International Airport are named after him while Gen Daud Avenue another important road in Mogadishu, Gen Daud School and Somalia's Premier League Soccer Championship The Gen Daud Cup are named after Gen Daud Abdulle Hirsi. There's NOT a SINGLE Person from your clan that enjoys such popularity. The Secret about History is that it always rewards good people. :idea:

Re: Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:46 pm
by udun
Abdallah ow about this...
E. M. Forster wrote, “So Two cheers for Democracy: One because it admits variety and two because it permits criticism.” By this criterion, Democracy is rampant in Somaliland!

As Lewis has recently observed in **The Guardian**,** **“with virtually no external help [Somaliland R epublic] has built itself up by a remarkable series of internal peace agreements and democratic consolid ation to its current situation as a functioning democracy.”*

*Casting this same thought in our Somali context, I say again, Two cheers for Somaliland: one because it has convincingly eschewed and has escaped from the endless and the senseless death and destruction, from the Evil and the Chaos and the Cruelty that runs riot, that runs rife, that runs rampant in the rest of erstwhile Somalia save that entity that now calls itself Puntland that still hankers after and sighs for that now impossible perfidious Darod daydream that her sons will one day, once again, run and rule and ruin Hargaysa and Mogadishu as they had done once upon a time when they had managed to foist that cruel fantasy, that fool’s errand that had fooled us all, that hoax, that wild goose chase that goosed us all Somalis, that pitiful pipedream, that pie in the sky, that one sweet day all the five Somali partitions—Hargaysa, Mogadishu, Djibouti, Ogaden, NFD will join together as brothers and sisters in solidarity, in the unity of the Somali Spirit in the bond of peace and in the Greatest Somalia under a wise, selfless Somali, patriotic and loyal leadership. *

As we all so sadly know now that Never-never land was never to be.

*The people of Somaliland have escaped from the fate of that morgue called Mogadishu because they h ad the sense, the sanity, the sobriety, the sagacity, the serenity to sit together as brothers and sister s, to reason together as brothers and sisters under the shady Tree of Wise Counsel and learn and listen to their Elders who had told them, “Come. There is a way to be good again”; that “The only truth is good ness . . .Nobody wins with Evil or anger”; that Nobody wins with violence and with “ Force [that always] shites upon Reason’s Back.”

*Hargaysa and her citizens said with one sane sound voice of solid solidarity “Fool us once, shame on yo u; fool us twice, shame on us!” *

*They have reverted to what they once were before we Southerners had taken them in by betraying them and by betraying the sacred trust they once had had in that noble vision of Greatest Somalia. They reverted to what they once were before we Southerners had taken them for a long, genocidal, la mentable, reckless rude, rough ride, before they had fallen for our Southern trick, for our Southern tri pe, for our Southern trap—they have reverted to being what they were— Somaliland, without the Briti sh this time round.

*Voluntarily, freely, by her own free and informed will, Hargaysa had once cast her lot with Mogadishu; now once again, voluntarily, freely and by her own informed and democratic will, Hargaysa has decided to sail solo, to decouple, to divorce, to secede from her erstwhile unity with now Mad Mindless Morgue Mogadishu.

*Any fugly fool who argufies that Hargaysa cannot do that, cannot secede—well, tell that jinni jerk to jump in the Juba River and drink it dry.

*Knowing Somalis, there are such jinni jerks galore that love to argue with what is so obvious, with wh at is so apodictic.

*Why should the same Somali blue flag with the five-pointed star (each point representing the five col onial partitions of the Somali people) fly and flutter proudly over Hargaysa—the same flag of Perfidy, of Genocide, of Dishonor, of Deceit, of Disgrace, the filthiest rag of a flag in the world, that was stamped on the wings of the MiGs that rained ruin, death, destruction, disaster, on the defenseless folks of Harg aysa.

*Afweyne who attempted such a contemptible genocide of the Issaq couldn't have been happier as Har gaysa and her citizens lay dying, bleeding, prostrate, pitiful, burning “Far from feeling any remorse, Pre sident Barre was beside himself with joy at his ‘triumph’. According to one former Somali official who pai d a visit: I have never seen Barre so relaxed and happy throughout my long association with him. He did not look like a President who had just destroyed his second capital, causing so much suffering and angui sh. He simply saw himself as a Darod . . . chief who had totally annihilated an enemy clan.”

*As a matter of fact, Lewis wryly observes that the worst excess of this “Daarood tyranny of Mohamed Siyaad Barre” was the attempted genocide of the Isaaq clan-family whose traditional tribal turf—Soma liland---Afwayne wanted to hand over in toto to the Ogaadeen, his maternal uncles, cousins and agna tes: “Ogaadeeni refugees were at the same time encouraged to take over Isaaq shops and houses in w hat, after their bombardment by Siyaad’s forces, were effectively ghost towns. Thus, those who had been earlier received as refugee guests in northern Somaliland had supplanted their Isaaq hosts, and many of the latter, in this bitterest ironic turn of fate, had become refugees in the Ogadeen.”

*No wonder now Somalilanders had seceded from our once solemn and sacred Somali Unity and now ta unt us Southerners as faqash: pigs and contemptible clowns and collaborators and coons and quislings of that Darod foolish fiend, Afwayne.


*Nevertheless, I am content to cast this caveat, to bear witness to the fact that a fellow Abgal pilot had flown his MiG and her bombs or ordinance away from Hargaysa into the sea by Djibouti. Furthermore, I am also content to cast another caveat, to bear witness to another fact: to the chagrin and to the consternation and to the apoplexy of the Darod Dictator, Afweyne, my Abgal clan chanted defiantly to his face:

*Dalkaaga Daafac didimayno!
*Idoar ku duul donimayno!*

*We don’t refuse to defend notre patrie!*
*But we most definitely don’t want to raid and rout the Issaq!*

*Never ever again will the writ of another god damn Darod Doddering Despot and his Myrmidons, like Morgan, the butcher of Hargaysa, or like Gani, the Marehan gung-ho goon, hold sway in Somaliland!

*This I am most certain despite the daydreaming of the punks of Puntland!*

*My second cheer for Somaliland is that because her citizens had done what seems impossible in the re alm of African politics: when the majority of Somaliland—Issaq—couldn’t agree among themselves on wh ich of their subclans ought the President come from, they were wise enough to select, to elect a non-Issaq to rule them rather than hack each other to death as the hopeless, hapless, Hutu Hawiye Helots from whom I unfortunately hail had done and are doing right now as I write this.

*Tacitly, implicitly, the world already recognizes Somaliland as a nation and as a country and as a Repu blic that is civilized, sane, and peaceful. The whole world is stunned by what Somaliland had already done, not once but thrice: electing freely and fairly three different Presidents peacefully: Egal, Royal Riyale, and now Silanyo!*

*Lewis has concluded his **Guardian** article thus “It’s time now to learn from Somaliland's success and see how to emulate it.”

*I am sure that the people to whom Mogadishu really belongs are going to heed his advice and rid them selves of what he had once famously referred to as “ Habar Gidir invaders” and their useless idiots.

*Archimedes once famously said, “Give me a place to stand, and I will move the Earth.” Now that Somalil anders have a Democratic place to stand, Somaliland Republic, I am sure that they will soon move the w hole civilized world to reward them with a well-deserved, explicit and an unequivocal outright recognitio n . Somalilanders have already moved the world toward that direction by making peace and by maintain ing Hargaysa as a haven of Peace in the horror-hacked Horn of Africa.

*Peace, the most priceless blessing, that few folks in Africa are lucky enough to possess.

*Truth has come; falsehood, fatude and Afweyne and his merciless, mirthless M. O. D have fled! Afwayne’s terrible M. O. D. Troika: (M)arehan (O)gaden (D)hulbahante: the tyranny of Afwayne and his despicable Darod MAD M. O. D. : the primitive and savage tribal troika, the modus operandi of Afwayne, that had once tyrannized and terrorized both Mogadishu and Hargaysa for.

*over two decades is now no more.

*MOD: “M stands for the patrilineage (Marehan) of the Brute; O for that of his mother’s and this means the Ogaden people who live in the critically sensitive Ogaden border region of Ethiopia; and D for the Dul bahante, ‘literally he who conquered all the lands’; the lineage of his son-in-law,” aptly dubbed, Dafle, the snatcher, the head of the dreaded NSS [Nasty Sickie Snatchers]: Afwayne’s storm troopers. *

*“The implications were succinctly expressed in a popular explanatory verbal formula: The Marehan are drunk on power; the Dulbahante are drunk on pride; the Ogaden are drunk on powdered milk. The Powd ered milk donated by international aid signifies the fact the Ogaden were mostly refugees from Ethiopia; Somalia was not even their country.”


*Truth has come; falsehood has fled with Afweyne and his MOD!

*Somaliland has dawned!*

*Somaliland!**Hannoolatto!*

*Long live Somaliland!*

:lol: :lol:
We all know and the world knows that E. M. Forster and I Lewis are paid lobbyists for the secessionist junta, so you are not saying any thing new.

Somehow, when white guy says about some people, they seem to be very happy :shock: :lol: