Protests against the UN interference all over in Somalia

[Username1]

sheik sharif would be the 1st to be evacuated (ironically by the UN)

If you cant work out that out. I'm sorry, you should not lead a pub team to play football, never mind the most lawless country in the world.
Those who agree with this suicidal act by the TFG are scared that the meeting might require a change of leadership within the TFG, something that is necessary for progress at this point. The TFG has stagnated burdened by expectation of Sharif and has been chasing its tale over the last two years. Replacing the fatman Sharmarke with Farmajo has only made a section of our e-community on S-forum happy. In truth its progress can be measured in fractions.

[The_Patriot]

the problem is, there will always be somalis that will be opportunists and become lackeys of the UN

the people will never be united

every one has his own self interest notice they have no issue becoming part of the lap dog system but when it is threatened by their masa they cry foul and start using the wadani card which is by now non existant.

[abdalla11]

From 1991 till 2004 PL minded her own business, mow many years do 'they' need? It's always easy to point at others when you fail, that's the coward way of dealing with your problems. PL is doing the right thing, which is asking her righfully share, not only asking but demanding it

It doesnt make sense to isolate a successfull admin and give incompetent admin many attempts, that's a waste of resources. It doesn't make any sense

[The_Patriot]

From 1991 till 2004 PL minded her own business, mow many years do 'they' need? It's always easy to point at others when you fail, that's the coward way of dealing with your problems. PL is doing the right thing, which is asking her righfully share, not only asking but demanding it

It doesnt make sense to isolate a successfull admin and give incompetent admin many attempts, that's a waste of resources. It doesn't make any sense

PL does not need to be sympathetic to any organisation that says it represents somalia at large.

If there is a cake to be shared then they should have a piece of it.

The only time PL does not need to worry itself is when TFG=Xamar

[abdalla11]

Exactly, their reasoning for isolating us is 'why does PL want her piece of the pie while the rest of the country isn't asking for their piece'. Hutu's

[Username1]

Exactly, their reasoning for isolating us is 'why does PL want her piece of the pie while the rest of the country isn't asking for their piece'. Hutu's

No, sxb the reasoning is if you deport people from the south and treat them as refugees, you have your own flag, president and have declared the TFG null and void in Puntlnd. Why are you shocked that your actions have a reaction.
In my opinion Puntland should be treated like SL irrelevant and the TFG should ignore the words of PL but listen to its actions.

[grandpakhalif]

Local institutions work better, I believe most of Benaadir today is under the rule of just local administrations, not outliers who wish to exploit them (I.E PL, TFG,AU)

Especially Puntland, you can't have your cake an eat it too. It's either Puntland relinqueshes all its power and become a protectorate under the toothless TFG or it isolates itself from its funds. Simple as that, you want to rule other peoples land aka Benadir while at the same time manging your own affairs and securing your own UN funds. Absolutely despicable.

[The_Patriot]

Exactly, their reasoning for isolating us is 'why does PL want her piece of the pie while the rest of the country isn't asking for their piece'. Hutu's

notice how people were ululating with the departure of Ina Sharmake

know whent their turn comes they cry foul

Since when was TFG not a foreign interference?

I mean since its inception in Kenya till to date I dont know of a single day it wasnt even when Sharif decided to take it to Djiobuti to annoint himself as the president still the puppets were monitored behind the screens.

Username at least PL deports people what did the folks in Xamr do? forcefully evict people from their homes looted and killed them.

So PL learned it the hard way and they have everyright to kick out who ever they want just like some folks did with the slogan "Xamar unuka leh"

[udun]

I wouldn't advice Faroole to go south. I don't even know why some guys from Puntland are allowed to be in Mogadishu parliament. Those guys should be replaced by southerners. The turmoil in the south is pulling the whole nation down and it is time to leave reer koofur alone for koofur politics. I am sure the sough would be pleasantly peaceful today if all external influences were not there.

inmho. all reer Puntland government officials and parliamentarians should be kicked out of Mogadishu.

Only reer Garoowe think Faroole has any chance of becoming Somali president like they though Cadde Muuse would be a strong member of the national government.

The TFG is a national government

[Username1]

Patriot your mind is clouded by the 90's with little logical bases. If thats your attitude I doubt anybody but the natives will ever see Xamar Cadde.

Btw, dont think that PL only deports those from the south but your arse will not be save from the witch hunt and will find yourself in a cell in Ethiopia all thanks to PL.
But its politics and the only thing consist are interests, and policies will be changed in pursuit of this interest.

[abdalla11]

Exactly, their reasoning for isolating us is 'why does PL want her piece of the pie while the rest of the country isn't asking for their piece'. Hutu's

No, sxb the reasoning is if you deport people from the south and treat them as refugees, you have your own flag, president and have declared the TFG null and void in Puntlnd. Why are you shocked that your actions have a reaction.
In my opinion Puntland should be treated like SL irrelevant and the TFG should ignore the words of PL but listen to its actions.

What's wrong with somalis?

If i withdraw my support from the TFG it doesn't mean i declared myself independent. It just means that i don't have any confidence in this government. How can the TFG treat Puntland as irrelevant when PL governs far more regions than the TFG? What about the 1000 PL soldiers that are currently fighting in Xamar?

How are the IDP treated bad? This is a couple from the south who have two very sick children, they are currently in Garowe. Not only do their neighbours help them financially, even the PL ministers are calling the people to help them. Wallahi i would never ever support a nation that transgresses!

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[Murax]

The TFG is playing the right card.

This reminds Me of in 2004-2006 when AY was in Jowhar or wherever He was, and the Int'l community was ignoring Him and funding the warlords to fight the ICU. AY cried foul and was saying "I am the President of Somalia, support Me in that capacity to fight them not the warlords". It didn't change anything really and the Int'l community continued their course. Now with Shareef/Farmaajo they are saying we are not going to a shir and be "partners" or have a "mediating session" with the different factions in the Country. Bottom line is Faroole and others are what we call faction leaders or hogaamiye kooxeedyaal. They represent a certain group/demographic/region. What Farmaajo is saying basically is there is nothing to mediate or talk about, with respect to the TFG Vs Puntland and all the other groups (SOmaliland is boycotting). For our Puntland patrons, what I don't understand is on one hand they are saying we do not want anything to do with the TFG and have "cut off ties". On the other hand though they are pushing for a mediating session with the TFG. So the issue becomes make up Your mind, either You don't want to engage the TFG or You do even though as of now its a mute point in that the TFG is saying we're not going to. Until that changes, then there really isn't much to talk about.


Puntland/Ximaan Xeeb/Greenland/Azania can have their conference in Nairobi, Kenya


Btw Abdalla11 You keep talking about Puntlands "piece of the pie", what is that exactly? Can You explain it

[RovingMadness]

Patriot your mind is clouded by the 90's with little logical bases. If thats your attitude I doubt anybody but the natives will ever see Xamar Cadde.

Btw, dont think that PL only deports those from the south but your arse will not be save from the witch hunt and will find yourself in a cell in Ethiopia all thanks to PL.
But its politics and the only thing consist are interests, and policies will be changed in pursuit of this interest.

[abdalla11]

Murax,

Lacag

[Murax]

Murax,

Lacag

In that case this is exhibit A as to Why Puntland should be exluded from a heavy role in Koonfur affairs. Any Reer Koonfur who thinks its a good idea to have Puntland play a heavy roll is either not very intelligent or has lost their mind